the lead plaintiff in a landmark same-sex marriage case joins me tonight. he with begin tonight with a theme that, by now, may be familiar to viewers of this show. repeal the 20th century. the notion that, for many on the far right, the good ole days start with 17 and 18, as in hundreds. the era where men were men and is womener property. and the 20th century, the american century, was literally the ruin of this country as a christian nation the onset of workers rights and social safety net and income taxes and voting rights for women and black people and liberalized immigration and acceptance of lgbtq people and dangerous cultural things, like jazz, hip-hop, you know, rock and roll. and legalized contraception and apportion. believe it or not, there are people and el with-funded groups in this country who have dedicated their lives to repealing it all. but right now, i hate to say it, they are kind of winning. conservative organizations like the heritage foundation had in
coming from. there s model legislation. this all started with sb-8 in texas, my home state, which established this vigilante mechanism and reallyte encourag the citizens of the state to spy and report texans who left the state to have abortions. when you have organized entities withor extremist organizations likest harris society, christia right to life, they are literally disseminating within the agsin and the legislatures. so it is not shocking. our sense of this is they re losing the public opinion war on abortion. they are desperate to win back power and in mississippi, we know we have folks, the ag is up for re-election and she ll be in a toughio race. this is them fear-mongering against some of the most
gender affirming care, the lgbtq+ and trans communities. we know this because we know where the dark money is coming, from what we know who the organizers are behind this. there s not a legislation and this all kind of started with texas, already my home state which established a vigilante mechanism right. and really encourage citizens to spy and report texans who left the state to have abortions and when you have organized entities with extremist organizations like society, christian away to life they are literally disseminating model legislation and tactics within the ags and between the legislature so it s not shocking that our sense of this is that they are losing the public opinion war on abortion. they are desperate to win back power and, in mississippi we know that we have folks, the a.g. is currently up for
something that american will enjoy in decades to come. it s a real slippery slope with no telling how far it could extend. part of what underlies this is the confidence that they re about to reverse or gut roe versus wade and do away with abortion rights. that would permit the court to say, you know, we ve considered this case more fully on the merits and we ve decided that this approach really can t be taken and we ll invalidate this approach in texas law, this vigilante mechanism. even if that s what happens, the damage is done in texas. for months or years they will be denied their rights, unable to exercise them because of the coercive environment that vigilante justice involves. ali, i suspect you re right and
vigilante mechanism to enforce its law so there s no one in state government for us to enjoin from enforcing the law and that s a disingenuous sort of a legal analysis. but it s correct, i think, that that means that roe is functionally dead, as cecile says, in texas. there are other states that would like to follow that approach and likely will and of course they may not need to depending on what the supreme court does when dobbs vs. jackson women s health center is decided this term. that could end abortion rights nationwide or at least in states that take advantage of that ruling and no longer provide access to abortion. katty, i cannot overstate the political loser it is among a general electorate to be against abortion even in the cases of rape and incest, to be against 85% of all abortions would have sunk the candidacies of anyone i ever associated with in republican politics. this is a massive political loser. is the right like the dog that caught the car with their