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Appeals to the same people as hillary clinton. i dont think hell run. >> in some head to heads, i think he runs well against the republican field. >> but you have to get nominated before you run in the general election, which is completely different dynamic. >> but theres one other relevant. theres a genuine risk here that hillary clinton is not among the strong. >> shes damaged and so is he are his reputations of gaffes. i think theres another candidate but not joe biden. >> of what consequence...