either what our family dealt with or that a family in ohio or a family in el paso has dealt with, well, then, we re not just failing today. we re failing tomorrow. one of the biggest struggles for this country is we keep hearing stories like this. really, there is no shock anymore, and it s almost this kind of, you know, sad expectation that these will just keep happening. obviously the governor s got deep perspective on this. alisyn s full interview will be on new day tomorrow. every one of these events gets politicized and this president has gotten plenty of criticism after this event as he has other ones, but congressman tim ryan, what does he think about whether or not this president should visit dayton. we re going to ask him next. what does help for heart failure look like?