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Defending himself to provide a defense or is he really seeking to finish off joe biden because he wants to run against elizabeth warren? which of the two is it? >> yeah, i think its the former, not the latter. ive talked with the president about which adversary would be the one that he would rather face, and in a lot of circumstances you look at joe biden failing to remember things, failing to energize crowds. i feel like sometimes you got to get smelling salts to a joe biden crowd to wake them ...