and started worrying about defending and protecting american democracy in the 2020 election. i think when you look at the fact yesterday, and as i walked around the hill after the hearings and started seeing even democrats that had said they were not for impeachment start saying, wait a minute, this may change everything, i think the thunderbolt was what you just pointed out, joe. when all of a sudden mcconnell backs this $250 billion package and we re looking at the fact now that you have the russian interference as the election strategy for 2016 under serious investigation and implication, now we re possibly talking about the ukraine and we re talking about the i.g. saying some things of serious concern that no one knows what it is but could be involving looking into your possible opponents some kind of way or his son s
presidents go in areas like this? getting help from other governments. yeah. it s the digital version of disintermediation. when we disintermediated everything, retail and now politics and absolutely. it s a leveling effect. and a little bit like remember oppenheimer and others wornd th warned when nuclear weapons entered you d never be able to stop the proliferation because who would not want that much power in a fallen world? so the capacity of foreign governments, and also not even governments, right, just non-state actors. who knows. this is not necessarily state-run technology. we re in a total wild west. and when you have a president who speaks the way he speaks and i think to put it generously is
or between people in the campaign. yes you have. i have no idea i have not. i said the president of the united states, there is not a single bit of evidence the president of the united states committed the only crime you could commit here, conspired with the russians to hack the dnc. by the way, rudy also is running around saying how bad the mueller report was going to be, that it was going to be devastating before it came out. yeah. unfortunately there is more. there was the time rudy told the new york times this about his planned trip to ukraine. quote, we re not meddling in election, we re meddling in an investigation, which we have a right do. and added there s nothing illegal about it. somebody could say it s improper. and this isn t foreign policy, i m asking them to do an investigation that they re doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. and i m going to give them reasons why they shouldn t stop, because that information will be very, very hel
people saying we are absolutely certain that this proof that there s a smoking gun showing that donald trump concluded with the russians and it s all going to blow up and he s going to jail. i think as john as said and benjamin has said we have to know what those facts are. because if it s the raising of an eyebrow or something that you can t nail down. or a suggestion. or a suggestion. because michael cohen says he never gives a direct order. he suggests. he suggests. and then people move on that. you re supposed to understand it. right. and that s terrible, by the way. don t get me wrong. if he alluded to he wanted him to do this, it s really bad. but as ben says, we are in uncharted territory if we are if we have people in the administration monitoring the president s phone calls with foreign leaders and then reporting on them to congress. that is it may be necessary,
tolerate these days. looking at the timeline of this, it s very odd that this phone call with the prime minister of ukraine happened the day after mueller testified. so you ve got you almost have to wonder if president trump thought got away with it once, no consequences first go round, let s gear up for 2020. let s see what we can do. it is just simply astounding to watch drunk grandpa last night who needs to be just pulled off to hospice if not wow. what the by the way, this end of the table is rocking over here. one second. give me one second. i speak for the gentleman from upper west side and lower east side saying i disassociate and they do as well from the comments of our colleagues. regular order, regular order, sir. right there at the end asking the question, but yeah, right. mika, you talk about the