that he testified on friday in front of a d.c. grand jury. the new york times in the wall street journal reporting that general counsel has also testified. and what we are hearing, from the january 6th, now maybe an even bigger deal. even more damning. and what they showed us last week. and their final hearing until september. you remember the shortest then president of the united states, donald trump, the day after supporters attacked the capitol. hunted lawmakers in the halls. beat police within an inch of their lives. the day after all of that. they showed us how he absolutely refused to say the election is over. now, the committee is showing us more about what donald trump refused to say. even after his top advisors and his own family begged him, the committee releasing a never before seen exhibit today. i m going to play for you, here it is, in its entirety. i m not sure when those conversations began because they could ve started early the next morning. but i believ
good evening to you ryan. once again. what do you learning about these top-end states testifying before the grand jury? don, i was good to be with you, this is a significant development. in terms of the department of justice s investigation into donald trump s election interference and how that led to what happened here on january 6th. both jacobs and marc short were really kind of the first big win this is that the january 6th flight committee were able to cooperate that right inside that war room of the white house, the west wing, the oval office, on the days leading up to january 6th. but their testimony revealed to the committee at that time with the intense pressure campaign that was put on by president mike pence is period of time. and the steps that pence did to resist that. it also really shed a light on things like the fake elector plot that was going on around the country. these are all things we didn t previously know until the committee was able to really crack
mike pence s aides are testifying in the january 6th godzilla committee, that s how they re weighing to subpoena right-wing activist the wife of justice clarence thomas. i m joined by john avlon, and elliott williams. and, you know, i took a pause. good evening to both of. you i took a pause when i was talking about her because she is a right-wing activist. that is the truth, that is it s fair to call her. that i hate to say that about a sitting supreme justice s wife, but that s how it. is in addition to mark short, another pence aide testified before a grand jury court. they overturn the election, correct? they most certainly would.
interesting to see when we ultimately find out what marc short testified, that he has told others that pence dozens of times made clear on his advisers that he was not going to go along with trump s, frankly, harebrained scheme. this idea, this notion those being cross on pence and the days before january 6th. he essentially would single-handedly have the power to stop the results, certifying joe biden from being finalized. so the question is, for me, if pence again and again made clear to donald trump that he wasn t going along with it. why did trump persist? even into january 6th itself. and his speech. he just got off to phone with mike pence who again told him i am not going along with it. it is really a remarkable set of circumstances and complicated legally because something like this has never been charged about former president. the fact that there is no