done a disservice to those i who want their voices heard. that was just a completely. closed period where we knew what was going to happen. the woman had died, - she would have a funeral, she was a remarkable head of state and that was that. l marcus? it s not about having a debate. just as ed just said, she was a remarkable head of state. there are voices who don t think she was remarkable, and i think that the wall to wall coverage, but for the most part were talking about how remarkable and amazing she was. there were reports on the bbc, that people are saying how she was instrumental to bringing down apartheid. there were voices that were unchallenged. once you stray into the apartheid debate, it s very hard not to bring in the critical voices,
were saying goodbye. there was no question in my mind that in- the way that that was conducted as it were, in the public- press, that excludes a future debate about the future of the monarchy and the commonwealth, whether king charles will- remain head of state. all of those will be debated, but i- think it would have just done i a disservice to those who want their voices heard. that was just a completely closed period where we knew whati was going to happen. the woman had died, she would have a funeral, she was a - remarkable head of state and that was that. - marcus? it s not about having a debate. just as ed just said, she was a remarkable head of state. there are voices who don t think she was remarkable, and i think that the wall to wall coverage, which for the most part yes,
about having a debate. - that was that. marcus? it s not about having a debate. just - that was that. marcus? it s not about having a debate. just as| about having a debate. just as ed just about having a debate. just as ed just said, she was a remarkable head of state. there are voices remarkable head of state. there are voices who don t think she was are voices who don t think she was remarkable, and i think that was remarkable, and i think that the was remarkable, and i think that the wall to wall coverage, which that the wall to wall coverage, which for that the wall to wall coverage, which for the most part, yes, we can which for the most part, yes, we can come to exceptions, but for the we can come to exceptions, but for the most part were talking about for the most part were talking about how remarkable and amazing she was. people are saying amazing she was. people are saying how she was instrumental to bringing down apartheid. there to bringing down aparthei
same every flag at half mast. and the same wall to wall coverage on every tv station tv station. my- tv station. my absorption of all this has w station. my absorption of all this has been overseas, my absorption of all this has been overseas, and it makes you realise what overseas, and it makes you realise what an overseas, and it makes you realise what an extraordinary and global event what an extraordinary and global event in what an extraordinary and global event in a what an extraordinary and global event in a so called divided world, because event in a so called divided world, because the world has come together around because the world has come together around this because the world has come together around this in a way that i think we should around this in a way that i think we should not around this in a way that i think we should not be surprised. it is wonderful to see. do wonderful to see. do you mind if we pause. the opportunity to visit westmin
turning to opposition media, they re not switching western media, and they re not putting vpns on their phone. they re simply becoming apolitical. they re not following the news. a lot of people in russia at their dachas, their summer houses, where they re doing a lot of gardening, tending to their vegetables, and they re simply not watching the news. and you have to remember that since the war started, it s been wall to wall coverage, and people probably can t simply stand it any more because there s very little entertainment programming little sport, no cookery shows. no light entertainment at all, as far as i can tell. deborah from sky news, let me just bring you back in. do you think the russian perspective has actually been lacking in reporting of this conflict in the western media? i don t think it s been lacking. . i think well, i can only talk. from what i ve seen and how we report the story. it s obviously important - to ensure that the arguments being put forward by president