that is rising, she wants to try to lock that in. we re hearing from a lot of african-american women who are taking a look at warren. they re taking a second look at her. people may have gone in thinking biden is the man. right now everyone is trying to be not biden. someone is going to stand out as the main alternative to him. i think at this point it is warren, harris, and cory booker who are fighting for the not-warren spot and south carolina is where they could get it. i was talking with garrett hake and i asked him about the degree to which people were talking about the dynamic between the former vice president joe biden and senator cory booker. what is your sense of how much that s resonating for those who gathered at the fish fry, it s interesting, we interviewed cory booker. i did ask him about that. back and forth between himself and biden. joe biden was not talking about