heard president trump s voice asking about the investigations the day after president trump leaned on president zelensky to investigate first reflect on how this is as a piece of evidence. and the are you kidding meness of hearing the president s voice in a restaurant in kiev. they have this meeting on july 26th with ukrainians. sondland then goes to a restaurant with one of the staffers for bill taylor and he s having a call with the president of the united states in the restaurant. there s bad judgment here just to begin with, like, this is the conversation you have. then you have an aide listening and hearing this conversation about, you know and then following up saying what does the president think of ukraine to which sondland replies he s more concerned about the bidens and the investigations than about ukraine. that is to all the points we re
pressured the ukrainian leader. the ambassador talked about a call made after the day the president asked the ukrainian leader to investigate the bidens. in the presence of my staff at a restaurant, sondland called president trump and told him of his meetings in kiev. the member of my staff could hear president trump on the phone asking ambassador sondland about the investigations. ambassador sondland told president trump the ukrainians were ready to move forward. following the call with president trump, the member of my staff asked ambassador sondland what president trump thought about ukraine. responded that president trump cares more about the investigations of biden which giuliani was pressing for. all right. no one knew about this testimony until bill taylor arrived yesterday. president trump was asked about this call yesterday. this is what he said. i know nothing about that.
making, that is in direct of the rule of law and all the work we re trying to do abroad. this wasn t one call, one innocent. this was a campaign that went on for months to try to force the ukrainians to do something that would benefit the president. that s why it s an important piece of evidence. it s yet another link, another piece of corroboration. this one frankly overhearing the president makes it very clear it also one other piece of this. it brings sondland right back into focus. and so sondland now needs to excuse me. he needs to answer for this. and speaking to this irregular channel, castor at one point was saying if you were so alarmed why didn t you speak out sooner? he said as he had in his original testimony, that he wasn t that bothered by an irregular channel. it may have been unusual, but if it had access, if sondland had access directly to the president and it worked, why not? the only time he became bothered by it was when it diverged from
republicans said there weren t going to be any a-ha moments. there was. bill taylor said he had an aide that overheard a phone call between the president and the ambassador of the european union. following the call, my staff asked what president trump thought about ukraine to sondland. sondland responded president trump cares more about the investigation of biden. david holmes overheard the call in kiev in a packed restaurant. joining us now joe lockhart, bianna golodryga, and anne milgram. i want to step back and talk about the day as a whole, anne, and there was a moment that i think summed up the testimony
first time i heard that. the aide who allegedly heard this call, david holmes, he will testify behind closed doors tomorrow. and gordon sondland is one of four witnesses scheduled to testify next week who have first hand knowledge in the ukraine controversy. republicans were critical yesterday of the secondhand information they claim was provided by taylor and kent. former ukrainian ambassador marie yovanovitch will testify tomorrow. we have a lot to talk about. let s bring in karen bass of california. she was in the hearing room during the historic proceedings. thanks so much for being here. not only were you in the room yesterday, you also sit on two of the committees that are key in investigating all of this ukraine controversy. so tell me what did you think when you heard the revelation