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of election fraud and no power in the person of the vice president to interfere with that vote count and all the other things we know that are in this indictment. the fact that we have someone who's deeply conservative, tied to the right in the waybill o'reilly is i i think, ari, is exactly the point, which is more a that trump base republican leader voice comes out, says what is true, frankly the more people might start to say, hmm, maybe i shouldn't believe that conspiracy theory. hmm, maybe it really was an okay election despite the fact that i have been ignoring all the evidence that the election was lawful. and it does matter. messengers matter. people trust certain people. you've got an audience and i know it because when i walk down the street in brooklyn, ari, all i get is, i love that ari. it's not that they don't love me, they love you. >> respect. we hear good things about you.