by and large, administrations are supine and still are. the danger here is, we are reaching a situation where thugs, and for that matter, violence, but basically fascist gangs to shut down free speech. we talked about how dividedhe things are, even with what we eat and what we read. the one thing that he was due unitas, even in the bitterest of times in the 60s, people would say things like, i don t believe or support anything you say but you have the right to say it. that was a cliche. it almost became something that was s so obvious. where has not gone? if you can t have the government guaranteeing the safety of speech, then we have lost the fundamental tenets of our society. if there s anything that you nights has, believe in the first amendment, believe in free
they are warning that art will disappear across this nation without robust taxpayer support. tim daly is a seasoned and longtime actor. he voiced among many other things superman. he had a lead role in madam secretary. tomorrow, he is visiting capitol hill to advocate for whatea he calls the right to ber art. tim daly joins us now. good to see you. oo good to see you, too. ke tucker: i am not against art. i just don t know why average people, and a country in which the middle class is shrinking, getting poorer every y year, out to be subsidizing rich people in order to do a for art. that is not what is happenin happening. i agree with you. the national endowment for the arts does not subsidize rich people, it has nothing to do with them. the national endowment for the arts has grants i go to every congressional district in this country. hollywood will be fine, broadway will be fine, the kennedy center will be fine. it s the little towns in idaho, nebraska, which otherwise would h
federal treasury. an argument could be made that the national endowment for the arts budget should be 100 times bigger if it generates a kind of income. tucker: we are both agreeing here that arts are really important. i guess. you are making that t case. i fly fish. there iss nothing more important to me outside of work than my family and fly fishing. why am i not entitled the same subsidy and artists would be entitled to for creating art? who decides that creating a mere role or performing an interpretive dance is more important than what i do to relax? the national endowment for the arts tucker:r: that s it. who made that decision? the government dead. tucker: oh, okay. it s turned out to be a great decision. first of all, for the economy,en like i said, a big generator of wealth. second of all, it does things, for instance, the national endowment for the arts is in
no, no. we have to stop president trump from overreaching when it comes to a muslim ban that he said wasn t but every judge has said it is. every time he is in court, he appears to lose and then the bluster and attack the judiciar judiciary. a sore loser. tucker: i get the rhetorical point you are making. here is what is different about what we have seen in previous generations. these are issues they are not being foughtnd out, argued over, debated in the congress, which is where t they ought to be. if you don t like the federal ban on possession of marijuana, change the law. you can change the law. lead a crusade to do so. that is not what is happening. the states are saying i don t recognize your authority. that hasn t happened since the civil war. one of the things that precipitated the civil war and i would think, as a student of american history, you would see the consequences and doing it again. nothing is like slavery. you ll admit that.
school. trinity in providence. it started out with a $5,000 nea granted a church.he they put together a theater. it has turned into one of the preeminent regional theaters in the country. one ofof the things they did was they started a program called operation discovery. they made it so that every public school kid in the state of rhode island for free got on the bus and came to see shows. what that did for that community, for that city, for that entire region, was create an economy and a culture of creative people who were interested in theater and revitalize tucker: a. simple question, why does rhode island have one of the highest unemployment rates in the country? i don t know why it does right now. tucker: i would think the arts would fix that. i will tell you right now that the arts is not part of the problem. tucker: okay. i m nothe against the arts. i like the arts, whatever that means, anything could be a