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Mueller was able to come to his conclusions about coordination and conspiracy without even interviewing them about that? >> well, they spoke probably to manafort. they spoke to gates. they may have spoken to other witnesses that were collateral to that meeting, whatever documentation of there was, they looked at and they made a determination that either jared kushner or don junior were targets and they werent going to inquire of them because of their target status or they felt there was not enou...