legitimate fair election. you had people in that crowd who wanted to threaten if not hang vice president pence. you had a situation where there were trump officials pressuring state officials to manufacturer votes and send phony electors to the congress of the united states. i think the people behave that way they can expect to be called semi- fascist, fascist your acting against mensa constitution these united states they are trying to undermine didn t play it but it s important to say president biden differentiated between that group of people and conservative republicans. he said he has worked with conservative republicans on a bipartisan basis on capitol hill on many bills. this week we had an nbc poll that said now the idea that this
democracy. jennifer: president biden making sure former president trump is front and center and his first appearance on the campaign trail leading up to the november midterms. and it is time now for our sunday panel. axial senior politics reporter josh, former bush white house adviser karl rove. fox news political analyst juan williams and wall street journal white house reporter catherine lucy. welcome panel. good to be with you. jennifer: the president blasted the maga movement he quoted it as similar fascism how similar is this to hillary clinton s deplorable comments? i would see if the president said was clearly after jan january 6, 2021. after january 6 you had the reality a group of people, trump supporters to attack the congress of the united states to stop the certification of a
president biden was attacking republicans generally. he was not talking about the people who assaulted the capitol that says to the south of us here. he was attacking the entire party. you saw that in cedric richmond comments we are sort of big we are willing to work with the semi fascist republicans on issues of common ground. this was not in keeping with what the president promised us. my whole soul his and he said his inaugural bringing america together pretty uniting our people, uniting our nation that was after generally six. we must see each other not as adversaries but neighbors we should treat each other with dignity and respect. he was not treating with res respect. karo he was clearly speaking he said clearly i m not talking about conservative republicans because he did not say that. he said that. he clearly acted at people who weren t neighborly and attacked the congress. josh sent republicans can cancel ad spending several key states like arizona what is behind this?
pennsylvania and more. they allege that these electors were meeting with other purported electors casting votes for trump despite the tabts that the states determined biden won. then they sent an alleged certificate of the votes to congress what cl was to be used as an justification to delay or block the certification on january 6 which is the day of the violent insurrection. so these subpoenas show where congress is headed and what they re looking at. they ve subpoenaed former trump lawyers like boris epstein who admitted he was part of the plot on the beat just one week ago. did you ever make calls like that regarding what you re calling these alternate electors? i was quoted in the washington post in the last 24 hours, yes i was part of the process to make sure there wereality nalt electors for when we hope the challenges to the seated electors would be heard and be successful, part of the constitution and the electoral
president was in office and the military was holding meetings. that is a different point. and i say that with all due rowe respect with how the 6th was. and part of what both of these parallel investigations are doing is drilling down on the fact that the idea on the 6th was such a near miss, people haven t fully grasped it that had a little bit more of this fraud proceeded, to adegree where two or three states were in doubt and they had a partisan official willing to play this role along with the congress, so a pence and the congress, you could have woken up on january 7th without certification. and then you got just two weeks left to get to the point i talk about in the 21st. and if it is the 21st, and the military is going who do we report to, and it ain t a near miss any more. where does that hypothetical fit into people understanding why this is a federal criminal