work. but if you are a conservative republican representing a tea party congreg a.l /*al district may say go get them. keep at it. the conservatives are not incentivized at this point to back down. >> it sounds more like this is more than a shutdown. it's a breakdown of the federal government. so, from a congressional standpoint, what happens next? >> reporter: it's so interesting. so we are seeing the house republicans put forth a series of bills that would fund parts of the government, pieces of it really, national parks and veterans, but that's not going to fly in the senate because we are hearing that hard line from harry reid and the white house saying we want to look at the big picture of the continuing resolution to fund the government. so the question is: how can the republicans move something forward that could change the conversation? and, you know, once again, it comes down to these factions in the republican party. the tea party caucus, these members who are more conservative and the more moderate members, those who have been around longer and been through more fights and are more seasoned. they are pushing back. you know, we heard coming out of senate meetings today that a lot of republicans are upset at people like senator ted cruz because they've set up this game that's not necessarily playing out. they don't see what the end could be. they don't see that they are going to be able to defund the federal healthcare law. they don't see they will get budget concessions at this point. and it's eating itself a little bit because some conservative action groups like the senator conservative fund, a group that's fundraising, they are actually attacking members of the republican party who they don't think are being conservative enough. >> all right, libby casey on capitol hill. libby, thank you. let's bring inbard brad blakeman, a former senior aide to george w. bush. >> thanks, john. >> i listened today to some of the debate on the house floor and heard a accurate screaming almost at the top of his lungs that all the house needed was 20 republicans to come over to the other side and this would end. is that pressure building on some of those moderate republicans? >> well, i think pressure is building to end this. i think on all sides. and look. the president, before having meeting with congress, what did he do? he called in the titans of wall street to the oval office and told them, i want to see some pain felt in the market did to add pressure to this. so the president and both parties are feeling pressure not only from their own groups but from the general population that they don't want to see the government shut down. so there has got to be some give here sooner or later, and i think there is going to be a global deal, john, between the continuing resolution and the debt ceiling. i don't think you are going to see one solved before the other. >> so this is linked now? suddenly it's not just the budget >> absolutely. >> we are talking about both the budget and the dent ceiling >> absolutely. the dates are too close. october 17th will be here before you know it. we haven't started the negotiation on the debt ceiling. this is married now. >> was this the strategy to begin with >> no. i don't think it was a strategy to begin with, but that's where we found ourselves. there is no way the republicans will agree or the democrats, i think, at this point, to a continuing resolution without the debt ceiling. the two are now inseparabley linked. there will have to be a agreeable resolution. >> they are different? >> they are completely different, but john, you are not going to have one without the other because, now, they both have to do with spending. they both have to do with budgeting. and i think that the they are different. politically it's important funding the federal government to open up offices and send federal workers back to work the debt ceiling, if it was six months apart, i would agree with you. now, the legitimate is going to be used for both sides to try to make a global deal. maybe this is a good exit strategy for republicans. maybe we give them a clean cr with -- and then deal with the debt ceiling in getting the cuts, the real severe cuts we need to reduce our obligation and our debt, not only current debt but our future debt. >> there has been a lot of talk about the divide in the republican party. what has this shutdown done to the party, itself? >> well, i think we have a faction in our party like democrats have in their party. ours are more vocal at this point. there is more attention brought to the tea party republicans. but having said that, the principal that they are fighting for is right: the president's own law was amended by the president. extraordinarily and without his power. remember, the president, the only way the president can and a law is going through congress. the president exempted businesses for a year and republicans were saying, mr. president, if you exe businesses, why not the individual? the president brought this on, himself. >> it doesn't have anything to do with the budget. >> well y did the president exempt businesses? it has everything to do with the budget, john because there is billions of dollars not coming in to the treasury to cover obamacare because of what the president did the. >> why doesn't -- why don't those republicans go through the regular normal procedure of trying to challenge obamacare and writing a law? >> they did several times. >> they are in charge of the house. they can bring any bill up that they want to. >> well, let me ask you the same question: why did the president and his law in the proper way by going to congress and saying, i want businesses exempted. pass a law. the president didn't do it. he did it by presidential fiat as he has done by executive order on epa, on immigration. >> so you think this is normal? this is a normal process we are going through? >> no. this is not a normal process and it should not be a normal process. >> it's becoming a normal process. >> and it's not good. it's not healthy for the country on either side. i've got to say that. i am dismayed we are at this point. >> did republicans -- did the tea party republicans make a mistake moving forward on this? did ted cruz lead the republicans down the wrong path? >> well, let me say this. i would have much preferred as a republican not to tie obamacare to the cr. but that's gone now. now, i think what we can do is we can -- we can marry the cr to the debt ceiling. i think democrats feel the same way and if we can cover two items at once before the next deadline, that's in the best interest of the country. let's get this behind us. let's solve two problems and go on to the really big problems that we have, ab that's producing a real budget. next year. we never had a budget under this president. >> so that i am clear, so obamacare is still on the table? is that what you are saying? >> well, certainly the medical device tax, i think, somehow, some way, the president has got to compromise. we have divided government. the president said i am not going to negotiate. what he did today was basically a photo op with congress and there was no real negotiation. there was no good faith exhibited by the president in this meeting tonight. >> brad, it's great to have you on the program. thanks very much for speaking with us tonight. >> thank you, john. the stockmarket is closing slightly lower because of washington. the dow closed down 59 points, down nearly 150 points earlier in the day. the nasdaq and s & p were also down. around the world, people are watching what's going on in the united states and phil ipner takes a look at the impact and reaction overseas >> reporter: global reaction to the shutdown of the federal government has overwhelmingly been a sense of confusion and concern about where america is headed. not only domestically, where according to the press here in europe, it seems america can't get its house in order but what that means on the global stage. in particular, with america as the global leader in security issues, keeping in mind that this domestic crisis on the hill comes quickly on the heels of the crisis over syria, where america was seen to be confused in that issue as well. so globally, the reaction to what is a domestic issue is playing very badly in terms of america's reputation, the world just doesn't know where america is headed and has been deeply befuddled and also deeply concerned. one thing that is more tangible. one thing that is more definite, however, is the concerns over that debate over raising the debt ceiling. the world is eking out an economic recovery even more an e-ma anemic in the united states and the europeans are deeply concerned if the debt ceiling is not raised, if mercury anythings on its debts that it will send the entire recovery into a tailspin. and that has europe, in particular, deeply, deeply concerned. >> we have remained dry and a little bit of sunshine outside. great for seeing some fall colors. however, withno nooa not working websites telling you where to find these fall colors, we have to rely on where we know they are starting to develop. we are starting to see dry conditions diminish in parts of the mid won't. when we look at the august rain in asheville, it was so far above the normal well above two and a half inches here that now our wet weather to start the season in august has caused a problem with acorns. the harvest is not that big. the lack of it is causing black bears to come down to lower elevations. now we are getting a lot of sightings down in the blue ridge mountains. something to start keep in mind when we talk about weather patterns and how cold it will be for you coming up next. >> thank you. high demand causing problems for the government's health insurance website. mary people finding they can't even log on, much less buy coverage. we will have an update next. >> obama administration officials said they need to enrol 2.7 u.s. redents between the ages of 18 and 35 in exchange plans to balance risks and hold down costs. will they enrol come 1 october - should they pay the face. >> joining me now is jen mishory, deputy director of young invincibles, she's in washington d.c. and yevgeniy feyman, a research assistant at the manhattan institute. thank you for being with us. i want to start with you yevgeniy feyman. the young people are crucial to the success of obamacare. >> absolutely. they'll balance out the risk pool, they'll keep premiums that need the insurance, and the administration is reaching out to them. >> jen, the young invincibles are in the 18-34 group. [[voiceover]] fault lines investigates wage practices in the restaurant industry. >>the employers have the upper hand out here. they can steal from you and face very little, if any, consequences. >>basically, this industry is saying, "we don't have to pay these workers at all. they should work for us, but we don't have to pay them." [[voiceover]] two-thirds of low-wage workers experience wage theft every week. >>you're telling that these people are allowed to treat people like this, and you can't do anything? >> the federal government is being urged to fix glitches with the new healthcare exchanges. people trying to buy insurance online are running into overloaded web sites. there were similar issues yesterday when the exchanges went on line as part of the affordable care act. let's bring in david shuster once again to talk about this. this is the second day in a row we have had problems? >> yeah. john, obama administration officials are scrambling to add computer servers to handle what they say is unexpectedly high demand on the new if he hadral health insurances marketplace. a spokesman for the department human services says the key website, healthcare.gov gotnique visitors in the first 24 hours it was open and the help line received one 90,000 calls. the demand has caused technical glitches and bottlenecks and the problems have extended to websites run by a number of states that built their own market places here in new york, for example, the stateside has been overwhelmed periodically again today with messages appearing every few hours that en judged visitors to come back another time. in addition to the various w websites there are hundreds of organizations trying to help people register at hospitals, libraries and community centers. we had a chance to speak to the director of one community center in new york about what they are seeing. >> we expected glitches. this is a huge endeavor. it's a statewide endeavor. it's a nationwide endeavor. we expected hiccups look the way. >> for people without insurance, who were hoping to get signed up immediately, the delays and glitches have proven very frustrating. you can see some of the people there with the help line trying to answer the phones. although some of the people trying to sign up say that the whole frustration of trying to get on the website is not as difficult or frustrationing for them as getting stuck with hospital bills that they cannot every day to pay. the ongoing problems in the websites have not been caused by staffing shortages due to the government shutdown. that's because this entire system has already been funded and the people running it have not been furloughed. however, insurance companies and outside consultants have been warning for weeks of potential problems in the complex computer systems being built by the state and federal government and john, some it experts say the kinds of overload problems they are experiencing, it experts say it could take several weeks to fix. >> it continues to be the political football that goes back and forth between the republicans and democrats about whether or not this works. >> right. >> all right. david. thank you. so, fallout from government. fallout from the government shutdown is also hitting the housing market. as diane esterbrook, the fha loan process is making it tougher for home buyers to get mortgages. >> with a to doing and baby on the way, brandon hinkle and his wife have outgrown their two-bedroom condo. early next week, the couple plans to close on a 4-bedroom home. but there is a problem. the closing might not happen if the hinkles can't get an important document from the government because of the shutdown. >> if they are not able to get it done by the 8th, we could potentially lose the house, which means my wife would probably kill me. and we would have to scramble to do something about, you know, the space problem. >> this is the document that the hinkles need, called a 4506p form from the internal revenue service. the irs uses this form to verify a home buyer's income and lenders require it in order to close on a loan. the government shutdown in washington has sidelined irs workers who process tax forms like the 4506t. mortgage broker michael delfredo says his business is in limbo by prospectstive home buyers can apply for mortgages, he can advising them not to lock in interest raises because he is not sure how long it will take to close loans >> if we lock for 30 days with the assumption we will close in 25 days and the government pushes things back, we will be with an extended rate lock. it's exenpensive to me or exten to my client. >> some fear it could have an adverse affect on the slowly improving housing market. >> if mortgage money is not readily available and cash buyers do gain a big advantage, that can affect the prices that sellers are able to command for their homes. >> hinkle is hopeful the shutdown will end soon and the closing can happen sometime before the baby is born in december. diane eastabrook, chicago. as we mentioned a little bit earlier, there are 15 days until the next big financial deadline in washington. the nation hits the debt ceiling on october 17th. the ceos of some of the country's biggest blanks met with president obama today to talk about what could happen if congress refuses to increase the nation's borrowing limit. patricia sabga has more on that >> reporter: wall street is concerned about what may happen if congress can't agree on raising the $16.7 trillion debt ceiling. the u.s. will exhaust borrowing authority and be best with about $30,000,000,000 in cash to pay the nation's bills. >> that's a major problem because the net expenditures on any given day can run as high as 60 billion. speaking after the mete with obama, goldman sachs lloyd blankfein warned about the consequences if the stand-off continues >> it's making sure we understand the consequences of the long-term consequences of a shutdown. we are already in the short-term consequences. the consequences of the debt ceiling. we agree those are extremely adverse. >> the treasury started using the last tricks up its sleeve to push back the date when the legal borrowing authority runs out. jack lew says the measures will be exhausted no later than october 17th. if congress doesn't act, the government will have to make some stark choices about which bills to pay, how damaging all this could be depends upon a lot of factors, including how long it will take for congress to finally, act. >> the initial shock, there will be a flight to safety on the u.s. treasuries even in that environment may still be viewed as the safest place to be because everyone knowse congress will get its act together but the long-run con sequences for the soundness of the u.s. treasury market will be shaken. >> it's impossible to predict how damaging the economic effects of hitting the debt ceiling would be, but there would be pain, including the possibility of raising interest rates for consumers on things like home loans and car loans and, of course, the worst-case scenario would be the government runs out of money and defaults on its debt but nobody wants to see that happen. rasha nubucka is here. >> head scratchers in baseball because if you are the highest paid player on your team making $13 million a year like dan uggla, you would think to be on the roster. think good. like hitting 22 runs this year. dan uggla, a 3-time all star was left off of their roster because he is batting 179. here is the deal. when you can't hit your weight in baseball, that's not a good thing. the braves take on the la dodgers in this best of five series. alex rodriguez appealing his 211 game suspension in connection with the bio genesis scandal but according to the new york daily news, his defense team is using the: i didn't know the supplements i was taking were illegal. that will excused worked for roger clem options and barry bonds but wiit work for rodrigu? he admitted using enhancement drugs in 2009. has he used them since? prior will be back against the chargersyor will be back agains chargers he suffered a nasty n concussi concussion. but the highest paid third stringer making a guaranteed 6 and a half million dollar. great work if you can get it. we will be right back. david stockman says republicans need to take a stand on obamacare. we will ask him why. >> consider this: 10 eastern on axis america. hi, my name is jonathan betz, and i'm from dallas, texas, and] welcome back. i am john seigenthaler. here are the top stories. a lot of people are having problems signing up for the affordable care act, the healthcare exchanges. the government says it's working quickly to resolve those problems. officials point out that coverage doesn't take effect until january 1st and enrollment will be open until march 31st of next year. investigators are on the scene of a church bus crash in tennessee today. the crash took place about 20 miles northeast of knoxville on i-40. the church bus overturned after one of its tires blew out. at least 8 people killed and 14 occurs injured. it was still no deal. president obama met about an hour ago with house and senate leaders to discuss the government shutdown, but they reached no agreement. republicans accused obama of refusing to negotiate. democrats accuse republicans of constantly moving the goalpost. ali velshi is back to talk about this. when you see john boehner and you see harry reid come out of the white house, you get the feeling this isn't going to be solved any time soon. >> yeah. yeah. >> how does this affect the psychology of consumers and investors? >> so, it's much clearer than the psychologist. we have companies like united technologies who have had to furlough people and say this goes on for another week, it will be several thousand people more. you know, they played thissous. you don't need to be too psychological about it to say that if i work for a company that does business with the government, i am at risk. if i live in a community that's heaviy poily populated, a woman tweeted to say i have a small business and a lot of my customers are government employees. >> that's going to hurt my business. that affects her decisions to hire people. it's the same thing that people think when they feel a recession coming except they feel it very inten intenseli and they have to make decisions quickly. when we feel we are in danger with our money, we grab it and put it numbern our pockets and sit on it. >> you talk about what people can do. >> yeah. >> what can -- what can consumers do to prepare for a week or two more weeks of this? >> well, john, the good news is we are substantially more prepared as a people than we were for the recession because that scared us in 2008 when that stuff happened, we weren't ready, didn't save much money. we weren't that cautious. the last few years even though we borrow a lot of money these days, we are a little more cautious. if it's a week or two weeks, the general position can handle it. but a lot of people, i heard you talking earlier about the average wage of a government worker around 70 ,$000 or many that's a family income. a lot of these people live close to the vest. it's not really easy to go a couple of weeks if you don't know that you are getting that money back. they might pay these people. they might not. they don't retroactively pay the guy who rungs the catering truck or the hairdresser or the appliance sales person. there is money lost from the economy no matter what happens. >> let's move on now to the debt ceiling. we heard a republican consultant earlier in the program program talk about this is going to be linked? >> yeah. >> too close, whether it was planned or not. this is noose what's going to happen. >> yeah. >> so the debt, you have always talked about how the debt is a bigger issue. >> you may believe that the government should spend less. the debt ceiling is wrong tool. all of your spending tools are taken by your members of congress. >> that's to had with your memb of congress. don't stop the guy who has to pay the bill you already ran up. no. 2, there is no real discussion between the two parties about what to do about the debt ceiling. the democrats want it raised. we, by the way, we passed the debt sealing in may. treasury has used all sources of gimmicks to keep things going until october 17th. the republicans have a laundry list they want done in order to agree to suspend the debt ceiling entirely for a year. that laundry list is pretty much changing government as we know it. everything the democrats stand for, the republicans want undone. so they are going to use the debt ceiling to do more than just obamacare. obamacare is number 1 on a very long laundry list of republicans say they want done in order to agree to the debt ceiling. politically, you and mike viquera would no better than i do. i am not sure that's going to fly. >> all of us thought, i think there was going to be a deal in the first couple of days. now, it appears there is not going to be a deal. and you sense by listening to the people, not only on the house floor today. i mean i sat and listened for a while to some of the republicans and democrats, the anger level is going up. american people are mad as hell. >> i don't know how you sit with patience and listen to both sides arguing about this because americans are very frustrated by it. at some point, these parties know that nobody's got time for this. as mike's been reporting, as he told us two nights ago when we were sitting here waiting for this to happen, there are components of the republican party saying, guys, we need an exit ramp. we need a way to get out of this. people are very frustrated. so a, the frustration is growing. the popularity of trust of congress is going down. b, we have a serious issue. we have until october 17th to work out this deb ceiling. >> what about the banker's meeting with the president today? what do you think that was going to accomplish? >> you know how i feel. we are sitting here wondering which of these two groups we trust less to discuss the implications of this shut down. the bankers did what bankers have to do. they went and told the government this is a very bad idea that the shutdown is a bad idea for business confidence and that not increasing the debt ceiling is a bad idea. you know, i don't know what anybody gets out of this. this is all political now. right? it's not actually common sense. it's theater. so, s is going to have to happen. it didn't influence anybody today. >> how much -- let's talk about how much it's costing the government to shut down. >> yeah. >> so estimates are in a week, it would cost -- it would cost the economy about $16,000,000,000. as you know, members of congress stilt get paid. >> right. >> $255,000 a day which is still more than 3 times what the average government worker earns in a year. so doesn't sound lilth like a lot of money. even 1.6 billion in a big budget isn't a lot of money. but -- >> but they are not on furlough either? >> they are not on furlough. confidence is what this economy runs on. there are so many that run on, like china what the government's priorities are. sumps we think government is too big, it's cogassumers who make decisions. where we are feel remembwe are we are feeling better about the things and now we have these guys messing it up. >> by shutting down the government, it's costing the economy more >> it's not a savings. if you want to cut spending in the government, you have to do it in an orderly fashion, i.e., over time, with precision cuts. this doesn't -- this is not cheap. this is expensive. >> all right. ali, good to see you >> good to see you the government shutdown has left thousands of low income families as we mentioned scrambling to find day care for their children. the head start association says some of its pre-school centers are closing due to a lack of funding. closures could affect almost 19,000 children. >> that's out of more than a million en rolled in the program nationwide. in addition to education, head start provides kids with food and medical care. programs in 10 states and puerto rico did not receive new grant money on october 1st, though not all of them have closed yet. hundreds of children are enrolled in those programs in each state and the program helps thousands nationwide. the national head start association told al jazeera, it is a crucial service for the parents of those children. >> this is on top of 57,000 children that already lost services and that already lost their spot in head start due to the sequester. it's just an additional cut on top of -- on top of a very deep wound that's been just absolutely devastating for families and, again, i don't understand how this isn't essential. >> and one of the areas affected by the closure of the head start program is talledegah, alabama. more than 800 head start children there. wendy robinson is a preschool teacher at a head start school. her young daughter, sophie has been able attend -- who has not been able to attend her pre-school classes. welcome, wendy. it's good to see you. thanks for joining us tonight >> thank you for having me. >> tell me what it was like today for you. >> well, it happened friday. well, we got the note friday saying that if the government shut down that we would know by midnight on tuesday morning, and so, we worked monday, and then tuesday morning, i got up by -- it was 11:00 our time, 12:00, their time and it said that she had shut down, and all i could think about was, you know, dear god, please do not let this go on for longer than a day or two because, you know, i am a single parent with three children. and my job is my income. and so, i was just worried about, you know, what if it's long earn a day or two? what if it's a month or two? you know, i was just several things started running into my mind when this happened. >> so you are off the job, and sophie can't go to head start as well. right? >> yes, sir. >> that's right. >> and what does that practically mean for you? >> what that means for me is that i have no income, and my child is not getting any education, and she learns a lot in one day at school. and i teach a lot in one day at that school. so, not only is it, you know, affecting my family. it's affecting thousands of families around the united states. and it's just i mean my income is basically on that job. >> as you watch what's going on washington, and i assume that you have been following this pretty closely, give me your thoughts about what you are seeing. i mean we heard the speaker of the house come out tonight and heard senate majority come out and say no deal. what do you say to that? >> i am very upset. i just knew they would come to an agreement when they all sat down. i am a christian, and i am not going to bash anyone. i just feel like it's, you know, both parties need to come together and be united, you know, because we are, you know, one nation under god, and we are supposed to be united together, and they are supposed to be able to come to a conclusion together, i feel. i just feel like it's nonsense honestly, that this is even happening. >> when i see you and your beautiful daughter sitting there and think about how long you can survive if this goes on much longer, talk about what happens in the next several days. >> in the next several days, if -- i mean, i will have to contact the unemployment. i am not real sure if the unemployment, if we will be able to draw unemployment for this. i am not real sure about that. my heart is with headstart, and, you know, i am trying to -- i am going to try to tough this out as long as i can because i love my family, the headstart and i love my children that i work with the. sophie loves headstart, and i don't want to go nowhere else. i want to be a part of headstart until i can't be a part of headstart no more. and i mean, i don't know what else to say. it breaks my heart that this is happening. not only to me and my family, but to all of the other families. >> well, wendee, we hope you and your daughter sophie are able to go back to headstart soon. she did a great job of behaving while you are doing the interview. >> she is a handful. >> i know this is a tough time for you. thanks very much. >> thank you so much. the agency that watches over half of colorado's pristine's lands is feeling the shutdown pinch. the bureau of land management closed 4,000 of its field offices nationwide and 90% of its staff is furloughed. paul beban has that story >> reporter: here in the western united states, the landscapes go on forever, mountains, plains, rivers, forests and desserts. sure, it's pretty but the next of the bureau of land management is to make sure that all this scenery makes money for taxpayers. the bln mingdz 40% of all federal landanages 40% of all federal land. >> that's some 245 million acres. 13% of the entire country. the blm supports logging, ranching, and out door recreation. but energy development on blm land, coal mining, gas money, that is where the big money is. as much as $6,000,000,000 a year in revenue for the federal government. we wanted to find out what happens to blm operations when the government shuts down. i started by calling the main number for the blm's regional office in colorado to try to get some answers. >> hi. you've reached the colorado state office public room. we are kirk closed because of the government shutdown. >> hi, you have reached the bureau of land management. i am currently unavailable because of the government sh shutdown. >> i got no where. in fact, after four calls, all unanswered, i was redirected to the very first number i dialed. the internet was also a dead-end. every search for the blm, grazing maps, a list of its 4,000 campgrounds, was redirected to the website of the department of interior, the blm's parent agency. even blm's twitter feed was dark and the department of interior wasn't returning calls either. the blm has 10,800 employees, 10,200 are on furlough because of the shutdown. the 600 essential employees still working will do things such as run the blm's wild horse program, pat trol blm land and help keep the oil flowing through the alaska pipeline. since we couldn't get anybody on the phone, we decided to just drive out to the blm regional office and, you guessed it. >> trying to go out to the bureau of land management building, making calls and no one is answering. >> that's probably because they are closed due to the furlough. >> the bureau of land management is one of 28 federal agencies that have offices here at the denver federal center. we wanted to find out how many of them are open and how many people are working during the shutdown. so we called the main office here they told us that, thanks to the shutdown, they couldn't answer our questions. they told us to e-mail the general services administration in washington. gsa told us to e-mail the office of management and budget. we are still waiting to hear back from them. thafrmingdz to the shutdown, we can't find out for now at least how much of the nation's business isn't getting done. ball beban, al jazeera, denver. all right. so, let's head down to washington d.c. where there is a lot of activity tonight. also, at the muse yes, ma'am where joi chen is standing by. >> a lot going on here in washington. we are going to go to a different story tonight. we will take you to a dark place where we will meet an inspiring group there in haiti. they call themselves "the fearless women" in a country still trying to rebuild from that devastating earthquake and crushed by so much poverty and pain, crusaders there are trying to protect other refugees from the fearsom creatures of the night, sexual prettied predators. a special correspondent, soledad o'brien as they comfort neighbors living in fear. >> this will special report she brought to us from haiti. a day in the night and lots more on the top of the hour. >> we will see you then, joi. coming up, a new purpose for unmanned aircraft. how scientists are using drones to help farmers grow bumper crops. coming up in sports, the story of one rising star and his unlikely road to the national 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[[voiceover]] we spent time with some members of the gangster disciples. >>an escape from the expected. >>i'm a cancer survivor. not only cancer, but brain cancer. well, people usually associate drones with surveillance but in oregon, scientists are using r aircraft to try to keep potato crops healthy. alan schoeffler has more >> reporter: in oregon where the potato crop is an $865 million a year business, third-generation farmer, james alford is always looking for new ways to grow more and use less of everything. >> resources are finite. the water is finite. the fertilizers and crem chals are finite. >> aerial photography is part of that effort. infrared i amages shot from an airplane can show him where his potato crop has problems. but there may be an even better tool on the horizon at this oregon state university research facility, unmanned drone flight tests are underway. systems that could provide a keener eye in the sky for farmers. >> with these things, you can actually lower the altitude, get finer resolution, be at maybe the leaf level. we have the touch the to see a whole lot more and understand problems a lot sooner than a color infrared photograph taken at 10,000 feet. >> the drones look like something built from a model kit but cost thousands of dollars and have to be flown by a licensed pilot. the f.a.a. gave a license for these tests and guidelines for broader use of these type of aircraft is expected next year. it's controversial because of privacy and security concerns and because of the deadly use of drones by u.s. military forces. >> how does this drone work? >> we don't use drones. remember? >> there is some sensitivity about the semantics here, the words being used and the technology being used. this is as close as we were allowed to get to take video of the unmanned aerial system. >> but james alford is mostly sensitive to the variables and tools that can make his crop more healthy, if these, whatever you c you call them can help, he will consider using them. >> it's a financial thing. two, with my sons, to give them a chance to be fourth generation farmers, we have to take care of what we have. >> with an eye on the future and an eye on agriculture, precision farming may get more precise. alan schaffler, oregon. ross is back with sports and the baseball playoffs off to a great start. >> the pirates got the epic win last night. rays and indians are paying a one-game winner take all showdown tonight. don't feel blue unless you are feeling dodger blew. dodgers opening their best of five series against the braves. atlanta has homefield advantage. dodgers have their spark plug and the best pitcher hands deal, kershaw. are you nervous? >> get those butterflies before every game, get the kind of anxious energy. but, you know, once the game starts. for your club to perform and that you are prepared and all that. you feel the pressure of that. but just like i will ask my players to do, i want to try to do for myself is make sure you cut all of the surrounding, you know, circumstances away as much as possible and manage the baseball game. >> on the nhl season underways, they are uber excited in nashville because they are ushering a new era. jones was the fourth overall pick in the draft last june making him the highest selected african-american player ever plus his dad is a pretty famous athlete. jessica taff connects the dots. >> you could say steppes jones was born to be a professional athlete. despite moving around a lot as a kid, the one place he found a permanent home was on the ice >> i moved around because of my dad and i settled down in colorado for about eight years and i had a lot of friends in school that played hockey and go into the hockey community. >> the first time he laced up his skates was the age of five and he has not stopped since ing his way to three gold medals, the most recent being for team u.s.a.'s 18 and under? >> it regime bells a team and chem degree. you remember every geothose teams. it's very, very special to be a part of that. >> it's that will to win and able to toy make it happen that brought the 6' 4" depositionman by pausing to make a leap to the ultimate stage. for seth sacrificing blood sweat and tears on the ice for years was the easy part. wasn'ting to here his name at the draft was the toughest. >> the longest nine minutes of my entire life. i mean you feel like the world dropped on you every time you didn't hear your name. it was exciting, though. i mean, my entire family was there supporting me. and, you know, it was obviously one of the best days of my life so far. >> seth jones was the obvious choice for the national pred ators in this year's draft but the sport of hockey wasn't necessarily an obvious one for the kid whose father is former nba player popeye jones. dad and denver nuggets didn't know a lot about the game. he went to the guy they shared an arena with, after large super star, joe sackek. >> i never personally met him, but my dooed ran into him at a rink, and he said i probably put him in skate. if you can't skate, you can't play. >> he took the hall of famer's advice and ran with it making skating the biggest strength of his game. >> i pride myself, my ability to skate. i think that helps me in the way i want to play my game which is offensive and up in the play most of the time. >> after signing his first pro contract with the predators, he had gotten a taste of what life in the nhl could be like, and he has let himself dream about making his debut. >> obviously, i think it's something that makes your heart beat faster. >> while dad may not know a lot about hockey, he knows what it takes to make it as a professional athlete and the indiana pacers' assistant coach has done his best to prepare his son for the long road ahead. >> he gives me advice and you hear amount of the same advice from a lot of different people. keep your head on straight. don't get too high. don't get too low. >> as far as skating advice, safe to say popeye will stick to hoops. >> he cannot skate. no. he bought a pair of skates, but i haven't seen him since i was like six years old. so they are probably thrown away by now. >> in nashville, tennessee, jessica taft, al jazeera. >> just a quick update on baseball game. ries leading. >> rebecca stevensen has the weather after this. an epidemic of race is sweeping haiti. how can women in refugee camps product themselves. we appreciate you spending time with us tonight. up next is the golden age of hollywood going golden but elsewhere. why l.a.'s mayor has declared a state of emergency for the entertainment industry there. next. ç] >>. >> a false storm move okay shore in the passiffic is more like a winter storm with its potency. it's going to bring in significant mountain snows from idaho into wyoming and casper. you were expressing up to three inches of snow on the ground. it's going to be that wet, heavy snow. so once again, while you are cleaning up from the other wet, heavy snow we had, you are going to get some more. wrecked have more power outages around wyoming but now we are seeing stronger storms around minnesota, a precurse to the actual cold storm that will moved in to the west and slowly make its way eastward over the weekend. and we are all going to get an impact from this in the way of cooler temperatures, even gusty winds from the southwest. the other part of our story is more rain tracking in to the gulf of mexico, a cluster of thunderstorms here that may develop into a tropicalgression as it moves on shore by the time we get to friday. saturday, it's going to be moving right towards louisiana and north florida, right where we don't need any more rain. we will get it anyway. here are the win gusts, up to 25 miles an hour for san francisco, 40 to 50 miles an hour at times, closer to the water, santa anna winds will increase, main lee peak strength 50 to 60 miles an hour but that will come friday morning and saturday morning for southern california. so we've got a lot of red flag warnings out because it's going to be so dry with those powerful northeast winds coming in. it brings more concerns about any kind of fire getting started. it's just going to be picked up by the winds and carried a little further. the other part of the story is definitely the cold weather. boy is that cold air coming in fast overnight and tomorrow. and the snow is going to start falling from central oregon over to central idaho and you can see winter advisories into mont tanna as well. get ready for some 234i7 in the air from seattle to billings and tomorrow's high in the west also staying k cool. >> welcome to al jazeera america. i am john sigenthaler. here are the head lines. there is no end in sight. the president obama met with house and senator leaders tonight after the meeting, houses speaker john boehner accused the president of not being willing to negotiate. senate majority leader said the house had six months to change 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shutdown soon? they are heartbreaking and real. the stoirs of those already affected by the government shutdown. will any of this make congress move quicker? new information today on the motorcycle road rage incident in new york city. how might six cops be correct connected to that intercept? what happened to karen. >> she's still going to hit the southeast coast. but will she pack any punch. a live report just ahead. hello, everyone. it's high noon in the east, 9:00 in the west. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." i'm mara sigh vo campo. st. paul day five of the shutdown and two big developments this hour. first a new interview from president obama with his take on the shut down stalemate and that creep towards that october 17th debt ceiling deadline. >> just as it true with the government shutdown, there are enough votes in the house of representatives to make sure that the government reopens today. and i'm pretty willing to bet that there are enough votes in the house right now to make sure that the united states doesn't end up being a deadbeat. the only thing that's preventing that from happening is speaker boehner calling the vote. >> meantime, texas senator john cornyn, delivered the gop weekly address. >> the democrats have calculated that by prolonging the shutdown and maximizing the pain, they can bully republicans into doing whatever president obama and majority leader reid want them to do. it's a very cynical game. >> the other big development, the house has passed a bill guerin teeing federal workers will receive back pay once the government reopens. that vote was 407-0. the white house has signaled its support, unlike other piecemeal legislation offered by the gop, this one stands a chance of passing the senate. >> finally, a moment of decency. finally, we turn to the men and women whom serve our country, 00,000 federal employees who are furloughed and we do something decent for them. >> having a bill like this where we come together in a bipartisan way, we can reduce some level of frustration, we can give some level of peace of mind to those employees. >> for more now, i'm joined by nbc's luke russert on capitol hill. good afternoon, luke. so, just what is going to happen with this legislation now? where does it go from here? >> so d.c. for once worked today. there was a lot of anxiety amongst furloughed federal workers, over 00,000 of them, whether or not they would be able to res tro actively. the house voted today unanimously they would be able to. that was not a guarantee ten days ago when more conservative members were questioning whether they should pay workers for days they did not work. this move onto the senate and then to the president's desk. and this really does alleviate a lot of the concern that federal workers had about their livelihoods. now, it's retroactive. so they don't get paid immediately. a lot of them have to live off savings till the shutdown is over. but to know on the horizon you'll get all the money that would have been owed to uh-huh been able to work every day, i think a lot of americans in that predicament are breathing a sigh of reeve. >> luke russert, thanks so much. for more, i'm joined by someone with an insider's view, democratic congressman, adam schiff, member of the appropriations and intelligence committees. thanks so much for being here. your democratic colleagues announced a plan yesterday to force a vote on a clean spending bill using something called a discharge petition. how would that work and how likely is it you'll move forward with that? >> the way this petition works is if the speaker or leadership or committee chair won't bring a bill to the floor, if you get a majority of members signing a petition, you can discharge it from committee and force a vote on it. that takes about a week though and none of us want to wait a week. at the same time, for the republican members who have been saying they support a clean bill to open the government again, this really will put him to the test. are they just saying that for consumption back home or do they really mean it. if they really mean it, they'll sign the petition and we can be guaranteed this will end at least on a day certain. >> of these piecemeal punding bills, you've said let's be honest what the house leadership is saying. we will choose which agency of the government we will release. as we just reported the house approved this bill for back pay of federal workers. why do you think this piece of legislation got unanimous bipartisan support. >> this wasn't a piecemeal opening of the government or picking and chooses can of agencies we should let release one hostage at a time. this was instead letting furloughed workers have the peace of mind knowing they're going to get paid once the shutdown is over, they get paid so they can tell those they're working with or owe bills to or their mortgage company, i will be able to pay this bill. so you know, i think on a bipartisan basis, all the members recognize that's a moral obligation and the decent thing to do, but it doesn't change the fundamental predicament we're in. this isn't at the president alluded a fight between democrats and republicans. this is a fight between republicans and other republicans, and predominantly that's a fight within the house. we have an ironic situation where a speaker that has been talking about the hastert rule all year, that being a rule he'll be governed by a majority of the majority party, that is the gop has now moved to a place where the rule is the minority of the majority, the tea party is really calling the shots in the house. part of that is driven by the fact that a lot of the nontea party members run in desperate fear they'll have a tea party challenge if they support reopening the government. but we need the mainstream gop basically to run their own house and put up this bill and the president's right. if we took up a bill to fund the government today, it would have passed overem whenningly. >> this week we heard from jam clapper, director of national intelligence in a hearing on wednesday. let's quickly listen to what he had to say. >> this is a dreamland for foreign intelligence service to recruit, particularly as our employees already, many of whom subject to furloughs driven by sequestration are going to having i believe even greater financial challenges. >> do you believe that this shutdown is creating national security issues? >> absolutely. and it's everything from having to furlough all the analysts that work for the intelligence agencies. it's also we're learning those that are work on sanctions on iran to keep the financial pressure on iran are being furloughed. so it has definite national security implications. and it's not enough to say well, let's just try to fund the intelligence analysts because one of the things that we have done over the last several years is try to make sure all the intelligence agencies and domestic agencies talk to each other so you have the fbi talking to the department of homeland security, talking to the nsa, talking to cia so that we connect the dots. you can't basically say we're going to fund certain dots and not others without having a real problem in terms of our ability to detect threats against the country. >> secretary kerry said this morning that while the shutdown is not a sign of "weakness," it does hurt the message that the u.s. sends to the rest of the world when we "capital get our own act together." how do you think this is affecting foreign policy and our image on the global stage? >> i think it's a terrific embarrassment and more than that, when the president of the united states can't go on the trip to asia to meet with some of our allies in the region because he's got to stay here because we have a dysfunctional government, i mean it really makes us look ridiculous. and it's so painful to watch because it's so completely unnecessary. and beyond the impact it's having around the globe on our reputation is the fact that our economy still hasn't fully recovered. i'm convinced that if we weren't going through these every other month manmade artificial crises our economy would have recovered a long time ago. so americans are paying a real price. our credibility around the world is paying a real price. our security is impaired. and it's all so completely unnecessary. >> and when it comes to that, the issue of it being unnecessary, that this could be worked out, you hear republican talking points that it's really the democrats refusing to negotiate on anything. what's your response to that? >> i think you see some of the republicans saying that publicly. what you hear them almost all saying privately, in fact, i had one of my california republican colleagues mention you know all that stuff you democrats say about us? well this time, it's really true. the mainstream members of the gop in congress won't say publicly but will say privately, this is an internal problem of theirs. they've let the tea party hijack the show. senator ted cruz is the new speaker of the house and is calling the shots. and now publicly they want to make this a democrats versus republican thing and don't want to air their dirty laundry. the reality is that this is an intragop fight. until that fight is resolved, our government's going to stay closed. >> we will be speaking with some of your republican colleagues later in this hour. we'll ask them about that. congressman, thank you so much for your time. a triple threat of wind, snow and rain across parts of the country. in wyoming and south dakota, the problem is snow, as much as three feet fell in some areas. also in south dakota and in nebraska and iowa, tornadoes caused significant damage to neighborhoods, minor injuries were reported. and along the gulf coast, a sigh of relief for tropical storm karen, a storm that lost much of its steam. meteorologist bill karins is here for the latest on na. what can we expect from karen now? >> karen is the one that gets all the buzz because it's something in the tropics in the gulf of mexico where some of our worst storms in history have been. this one never got its act together. a lot of dry air got into it. these storms need the humid rich air. this is funny. this is the radar. there's not many showers in southern louisiana right now, but the storm is heading for the louisiana coast. it should move in later on tonight and again, you'll see bands of rain and gusty winds. you're not going to see flooding. you're not going to see much wind damage if any. the storm will track from southern louisiana kind of parallel in the coast a little bit. even and mobile, panama city get gusty winds. waves up a little bit at the baeps. we're not talking about anything that would make you significantly change your plans. we showed you the tornadoes. how impressive were thoses? some were a mile wide. thankfully, they missed most towns. i say most because the town of wayne, nebraska, did get hit. they did have a couple injuries there, too. the mayor says over $1 million worth of damage. again, they were concentrated last night. who's at risk today? this afternoon? that's one of the ones that was about a mile wide, that one you saw there. that was one that was weakening as it picked up debris and tossed in the air. that was in the nebraska vicinity. who's at risk today? if you have outdoor plans, really from the midwest from chicagoing to st. louis all the way to indianapolis, a line of strong storms will roll through today. and when that happens, go inside for a quick half hour. the other thing that we have to watch this weekend is the winds, mara, are really strong and gusty. it's very hot in southern california. they're very afraid of any fires. that's the catch, right? if you get the wind situations, if the fires don't form, no big deal. if one forms, we could be talking about mass evacuations and a huge blaze. fingers crossed there. >> keep your eye on the fire condition. bill karins, thanks so much. new development haves today in the shocking road age incident here in new york city. police have just released pictures of this man, they believe slashed the tires of the suv and assaulted the victim after surrounding and then chasing him through new york city streets. police say they're also investigating whether as many as six off duty officers were part of the motorcycle club. in the meantime, the man seen using his helmet to break a window of the suv has surrendered and is being questioned by police. he is not yet being charged. however, another biker has been arrested and charged. well, who getsing hurt the most in the government shutdown? coming up, some personal stories that are sure to upset you. and a new legal fight for jodie arias. why her lawyers don't want you to see video like this during the retrial for her sentence. 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>> i think there's -- what they're saying there's two different things going. this is a debate about changes to the health care law to make it easier for people to enroll. that debate has to come after the debt limit is raised by october 17th. the white house is still holding firm to the idea they're not going to roll the first of hose into the second. and i think what the president made clear again in that interview even though he says he's open to bigger debates later is that he's going to stand firm. he suggested in the interview, it was very tell it go he had read john boehner's comments in private to other members that he's not willing to let default happen. it had been reported that the house wos eventually maybe vote on a bill that required support from democrats. i think the president is trying to put pressure on republicans that way. >> elise is, noa elise, this is piecemeal funding measure. why is this one different? >> i would echo what the representative you just interviewed said. it's basically a and to federal worker are in trouble during the shutdown. both parties came together in order to say listen, we want to make sure the shutdown, when it stops, doesn't continue to have an effect on the people who had nothing to do with the causes. so i think that's why they were able to come together. we're expecting is the senate to pass the bill very shortly. it isn't really a bill to reopen the government in this piecemeal way. what it is is lessening the effects on federal workers as has been done in the past. nobody wants to see those people hurt because the shutdown had nothing to do with them. >> david, at least 138 lawmakers say they plan to donate or refuse pay during the shutdown. almost half of the 535 members of congress are millionaires. their net worth is $966,000. compare that to $66,740 for a typical american family and in many cases, even their own staff members don't make that much money. so does this carry much weight when they say they're going to donate their salaries, refuse them, or does it ring hollow to the public? >> makes a symbolic point. the president was asked if he would do so and jay carney said that's not the issue. i don't think it's a surprise money plays a big role in getting people elected. he folks who are wealthy in the government. most federal workers are concerned about what's going to happen. they want to go back to work. it's not like a big vacation to them. to echo what elise said, one thing that this vote does today is it allow sort of lessen the pressure to open the government because they say look, we're going to take care of you afterward. i think what's going to happen, you'll see now this fight over the budget into the debt ceiling. we're headed to an october 16th showdown. it's unlikely anything is going to get resolved despite congress being open right now, potentially negotiating. you saw the white house chief of staff on the other day. there are negotiations, there are talks, maybe not negotiations, how to get this done. it doesn't look likely anything's going to happen till the last minute. the get ready for a long monday night. >> elise, your latest article is titled "gop slams scheduled maintenance on obama care site." the gop has been seizing on the within site problems as a sign the law isn't working. is that a fair indicator of success less than a week of these exchanges being open? >> certainly the obama administration and i.t. experts would say no. when you're rolling out a new website, it needs time to work, time to figure out glitches. the administration said it was because, 8 million people tried to come to healthcare.gov and open accounts this week. that's why we saw so many problems. what happened yesterday was hhs, the federal health department came out and said they were going to take the application portion of healthcare.gov down during nonpeak hours this weekend in order to strengthen that part of the website, which has experienced problems in the last week. and john boehner as well as many of his deputies came out and said hey, this means obama care is a failure. the federal health department should not be taking it down. that's going to mean people don't have acis esto the application. i think the administration just wants to strengthen the website and they have six months for this enrollment period. we'll see whether those glitches are fixed but i think it's going to be an ongoing process. >> all right, elise vieebeck and david, thanks so much for your time. just how bad will it be if no deal is reached in the debt ceiling crisis in the dire prediction coming up next in office politics. with my friends, we'll do almost anything. out for drinks, eats. i have very well fitting dentures. i like to eat a lot of fruits. love them all. the seal i get with the super poligrip free keeps the seeds from getting up underneath. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. a lot of things going on in my life and the last thing i want to be thinking about is my dentures. 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between the two countries. an investigation is under way after 18 middle school students took a prescription drug in arizona. up with student is believed to have brought clonidine to school and shared it with others. the drug is used to treat high blood parish and adhd. all students were taken to nearby hospitals. all but one released. attorneys for jodie arias are asking a judge to ban live tv coverage inside the courtroom during her sentencing retrial. she was convicted in the 2008 death of boyfriend travis alexander in phoenix. the same jury failed to reach a decision whether she should get the death penalty. house members are back on capitol hill today. they just passed a bill that will ensure furloughed federal workers get paid when the government shutdown ends. and while fighting continues in washington, the personal impact is being felt across the country. nbc's miguel almaguer has more. >> reporter: in talledega, alabama, wendy robinson has been furloughed. a single mom with three mouths to feed, today she got her last paycheck. she blames congress. >> i do think that it is nonsense and that they need to get their acts together. >> a teacher in the government-funded head start program, robinson has also lost her child care and has no savings. >> i'm at a loss for words really about it because i'm not used to not giving my kids a christmas. >> in oak lawn, illinois, families in need turn to this assistance center. offering discounts on infant formula, the clinic will soon run out of money. >> i do not think that congress is even thinking about the little people like us. >> single mother of three, rebecca war pow ski is worried and unemployed. >> i need these programs to help me survive. >> at the feeding south florida distribution center it, shell shelves aren't empty yet but the usda sent you the its last shipment of supplies yesterday. for more than 200 food banks across the country, when shelves go bare, people will go hungry. experts say if the shutdown lasts a few more days or weeks longer, it's going to hit us right here in the grocery store. the fda which checks fruits and vegetables for quality and safety has furloughed nearly half its workforce and canceled routine inspections. >> the consumer may see prices rise if things cannot be imported because inspections are not being done. there may be less of a choice in the grocery store. >> fewer inspectors means higher prices. >> puts me and my family at risk if the fruits and vegetables being being inspected and if the price increases, as well, it's a strain on our budget. >> the impact in the grocery store could be next. but many families are feeling the pain now. miguel almaguer, nbc news, pomona, california. joining me now for more is republican congressman michael burgess of texas. thanks so much for being here this afternoon. >> good afternoon, mara. >> you just heard some of those sad stories where people's well-being and health are at stake. what's your reaction to these stories. >> well, that's precisely the reason why in the rules committee and on the floor of the house we have passed many of those bills, head start and the wik program attracted a significant number of democratic votes to those bills. i guess it's a big question why those won't be taken up in the united states senate. last saturday, pay for soldiers was passed unanimously on the floor of the house. the senate did take it up, did pass it, it was signed by the president. today we passed the pay for furloughed federal employees. that passed unanimously in the floor of the house. i expect the senate will do that on a voice vote perhaps this weekend. my prayer is that the president will sign that, as well. but every other aspect of the appropriations process is copping through the rules committee. we are sometimes working late into the night to get these bills ready for the floor of the house. and in my mind, that is exactly what we should be doing right now. i hope the senate will start to pick these up. >> i want to ask you about the legislative strategy of tying budget negotiations to legislation. if things were the other way around, if say democrats controlled the house and there was a republican in the white house and house dems wanted to tie budget legislation to say like background checks for guns, is that a strategy that you would support. >> do you want to set that precedent? >> well, actually, the president press department has been set for some time. few people remember a congressman from massachusetts but on an intelligence authorization bill, he offered an amendment that was accepted that prohibited the expenditure of any funds for the cia in nicaragua. it caused problems for the reagan administration and we all remember how that occurred. but in fact, congress does have an obligation. that's what the whole separation of powers is all about. we do control the purse strings. so to say this is something new or novel, in fact, that's not entirely accurate. it happened at the end of the vietnam war with the boland amendment. harry reid used it not too long ago to shut down yucca mountain. there are precedence for this being used. what has not been a precedent is for a republican or conservative house to use it against a democratic president and that's why i think everyone is caught asking so many questions because that precedent has not been used. >> but what do you make of the argument, sir, that this battle is being waged or a piece of legislation that was signed by the president, that was affirmed by an election and the supreme court and that now you're essentially trying to repeal a law through ties to the budget negotiations that has already been affirmed on several levels. >> because the law is so desperately bad. and in can the fa, you're seeing that now in the first five days of the signup period. it the facebook page for healthcare.gov is just reflects the anguish that people have been feeling the last five days as they've tried to deal with this labyrinthine government process now visited upon them which they are required to take or face a fine. look, this thing was passed in the middle of the night in the senate on christmas eve. it sort of came to the house through the backdoor. it was never the subject of a conference committee because harry reid said i've lost my 60th vote. so the house has to take what i did. there's no chance to improve anything. just think for a minute. would lyndon johnson have not passed the civil rights legislation if he had lacked a couple vote in the senate. of course, not, he would have gone and gotten that vote. we might not have liked the way it looked at the time but that's what leadership was all about. in this case, it was hands off. get the house to affirm what the senate did after and they convinced enough house members to vote for it, it became law. it's a rough draft of legislation. this thinging is unworkable because of all of the drafting errors contained within. that's why it's been so hard to plymouth. they've had 3 1/2 years, billions and billions of dollars and are no closer than three years ago. >> i want to ask you to something one of our colleagues said awhile back. this was adam schiff just on with us. he said that privately, moderate democrats are coming to him and saying, i'm sorry, moderate republicans rather are coming to him saying they feel like they're being controlled by the far right of the party, by the small faction of the party. i do want you to respond to that sentiment. >> no one is controlled by anyone else. we all represent our districts an our constituents. we go to the floor. we have an obligation to to vote our district, vote our heart. the only thing that anyone has ever told me was don't surprise me at the last minute. i always try to be forthcoming for whatever reason i cannot be with the party leadership. but everyone controls their own vote. there have been procedural votes where if people had wanted to stray from what leadership had wanted, they were perfectly able to do that. what is telling about this is there has been no attenuation of republican support on those procedural votes but the democrats have certainly lost a lot of their members coming over and voting with republicans on things like head start nih and the wik program. you noted prior, you mentioned some of the technical problems that we're having with the implementation of this health care legislation that the healthcare.gov website is having a number of problems and you've sensed frustration online. the white house has said the high number of visitors to the exchange site is a sign of the interest in getting affordable insurance. you have said most of those who visited the site were members of congress and journalists. the healthcare.gov site got almost 5 million visitors on the first day. do you really believe that was five million congress people and reporters or do you think there's genuine interest from the public in this legislation? >> there's no question there's genuine interest. all i said the other day was perhaps if you walk back the number of visits from members of congress and their staff and reporters because after all, where is there a lot of interest in how this thing is going to work? it's right here in the capitol of the united states. but regardless of that, regardless of that, why weren't they ready? i mean they knew it was coming. they knew it was coming for 3 1/2 years. look at medicare part d. that had rough starts to it. the bush administration got it together pretty quickly and corrected those problems. perhaps the obama administration will, as well. but why not take a page out of the implementation of part d? why dut let it crater and then come in and have to swoop down and try to pick it up? everyone knew this was coming. you knew it was coming since march 20th of 2010. this is not a surprise to anyone. it's no surprise that the number of visitors were going to be high. when officials from hhs would come to our committee, we'd ask them questions, are you ready for this? can you share us your beta testing, no answer. i asked two weeks ago, are you going to be ready october 1st? it's a yes or no question. i could not get a direct answer to that question. >> congressman michael burgess of texas, thanks so much for your time. watch "meet the press" tomorrow. among david gregory's guests, treasury secretary jack lew and republican senator rand paul of kentucky. topics will include the shutdown and debt ceiling. check your local listings. office politics and we diction what will happen if the debt ceiling crisis is not resolved coming up. first, i want a way to help minimize my blood sugar spikes. then, a way to support heart health. ♪ and let's not forget immune support. ♪ but now i have new glucerna advance with three benefits in one. including carbsteady ultra to help minimize blood sugar spikes. it's the best from glucerna. 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>> yes, because there is a scenario that i can imagine that happening. for a couple of reasons. first, this shutdown was not over a simple issue that you could compromise out. in other words, it's not that the republicans said we want to cut $20 billion from the deficit and obama wants to cut $10 billion and you compromise on 15. the republicans have said we want obama care delayed. there's no possibility the white house is going to agree to that in my opinion. so the grounds for compromise are harder see than they often have been. secondly you have a group in the house that absolutely do not want to raise the debt ceiling under any circumstances. it will require i think speaker boehner effectively going against a majority of his caucus and using democrats to get this passed. that's something he's done before but he has said he's not going to do now. we'll have to see. >> i suspect some of your writing ability may have come from your father who was not only a successful businessman but also an off broadway playwright. >> i think back on it often about my father who i was close to and how interesting it was. he went to college. he was a depression baby, a war veteran. part of the greatest generation. he came back from the war and basically said i've got get a job and ended up working in a paint factory and running a paint factory that belonged to his wife's family. he was going to long island city and making paint and selling it. but he always read a lot. he was always interested in things and then just decided business was not enough and started writing plays. he ultimately in fact spent a year or two years going up to brown, which happened to be my alma mater and getting a master's degree in play writing long after i was gone. but i was actually a trustee of brown when he received his degree and i the ability to hand it to him. >> that's cool. >> there's a picture on the other side of the room of that. that was really cool. >> an interesting picture i saw here in the office, that is a picture of you and your wife with presidents clinton and bush 43. how did that picture happen. >> into it was pretty funny. so we were invited to a corporate dinner which the two presidents were going to speak and my wife drags me up to the front row and we're sitting there and the two presidents are talking, and at one point president clinton who has a really great way about this says, you no he, one example of how you can be successful is the auto industry and steve rattner is sitting out there and he did it and he was nice about it. at that point bush, who i have never met or been in the same room with to my knowledge looks up and goes like this, rattner, rattner, you out there, rattner? >> can't you see him doing it? >> instantly, of course, i liked him. later in the conversation, they started talking about subprime mortgages. and they're back and forth about it and bush says, you know, i wasn't smart enough to see that coming but rattner, you probe saw that coming, didn't you? it was really pretty funny. i know, and i would have sat in the back. so then there was a photo line and we went and got our pictures taken and my wife who was the finance. chairman of the of dnc, democratic national committee for four or five years looks to president bush and says i spent for or five years trying to get you out of office. he smiled and said it didn't go well, did it. >> in our next hour it, steve explains how the shutdown hurts the economy and what he thinks would be happening in washington if johnson were in office today. >> the affordable care act. how many people have signed up? humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? 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>> we don't have numbers but do have stories of folks across the country who have enrolled. we've talked with daniel who's a 22-year-old student in florida. and he was able to enroll in coverage that cost him just $70 a month. and something to know about that is that that is actually the same amount that daniel was paying before. the big difference is that previously he had a catastrophic plan that only allowed him to go to the doctor three times a year. now he's paying $70 a month and has much better coverage under the marketplaces. >> leading up to this week, the polls weren't great. one from the kaiser foundation found that 74% of uninsured people didn't know that the exchanges opened on tuesday. do you think there was a communications failure your here on the part of the white house? >> we do know there are mill yops of people out there who stand to benefit and don't know about it. that's what the work of get covered america campaign is all about, working with partners to have a presence in communities to talk to the uninsured and let them know, what does this mean to them. i think something, the fact we saw so many people check out the website or find someone in their community to talk about this or call a hot line, that says something about both the awareness and also the real hunger that people have to learn more about how this can help them. >> what's next? what steps are you focused on next in making the process better and simpler and getting the word out? >> well, enroll america and our partners across the country are really doing what we've been doing for the last few months. it is working in partnership wpt faith leaders and local non-profits and individual volunteers and communities across the country to have neighbors talking to neighbors and friends talking to friends about what is here, how people can benefit and how they can access it. something i've seen this week is the incredible importance that that presence in communities has. that our ability to answer those questions about you know when folks should go and sign up for the time to go through the process. so we're going to continue doing what we're doing, working community by community to get the word out. >> all right. ann filipik, thanks so much for your time this afternoon. new details about some policemens's ties to the group who took part in that wild motorcycle chase in new york. that's coming up. ties to the g who took part in that wild motorcycle chase in new york. that's coming up. across america people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza®. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar, but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza®. he said victoza® is different than pills. victoza® is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c. it's taken once-a-day, any time, and comes in a pen. and the needle is thin. victoza® is not for weight loss, but it may help you lose some weight. victoza® is an injectable prescription medicine that may improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. it is not recommended as the first medication to treat diabetes and should not be used in people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. victoza® has not been studied with mealtime insulin. victoza® is not insulin. do not take victoza® if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to victoza® or any of its ingredients. symptoms of a serious allergic reaction may include: swelling of face, lips, tongue, or throat, fainting or dizziness, very rapid heartbeat, problems breathing or swallowing, severe rash or itching. tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck. serious side effects may happen in people who take victoza®, including inflammation of the pancreas (pancreatitis), which may be fatal. stop taking victoza® and call your doctor right away if you have signs of pancreatitis, such as severe pain that will not go away in your abdomen or from your abdomen to your back, with or without vomiting. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you have any medical conditions. taking victoza® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. the most common side effects are nausea, diarrhea, and headache. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. if your pill isn't giving you the control you need ask your doctor about non-insulin victoza®. it's covered by most health plans. add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance and we'll replace stolen or destroyed items with brand-new versions. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ ing >> government shutdown, day five, and no end in sight. more hardships, more anger. >> we sent you guys up there to take care of the business of the country. so take care of business. >> we need the people to be taken care of. and that's why we voted you all in. so please, do your job. >> we elected you to do a job and that's what we want you to do. do your job. >> lawmakers are working today, but what are they doing? the latest in a live report coming up next. plus, the motorcycle madness. a stunning new revelation. why was an under cover police officer involved in that wild chase. >> the dallas police are here to execute the laws of the state of texas. >> now. >> and emergency room showdown. it's in a new mean on the assassination after president kennedy, bringing to light little known facts about the tense moments at parkland hospital. >> good afternoon. and welcome to weekends with alex wit. i'm mara schiavocampo. it's 1:00 in the east. here's what's happening. in a brand-new interview with the associated press today, president obama says he's willing to negotiate changes with republicans to the affordable care law and define ways to reduce spending but he strews he is not willinging to bargain till after congress ends the government shutdown and passes a new debt ceiling. >> what we can't do is keep engaging in this sort of brinksmanship where a small faction of the republican party ends up forcing them into brinksmanship to see if they can somehow, you know, get more from negotiations by threatening to shutdown the government or threatening america not paying its bills. >> in the meantime, the house just voted unanimously to guarantee back pay for furloughed workers once the government reopens. nbc's luke russert is on capitol hill and joins us from there once again. luke, good afternoon. welcome back. >> how are you? >> i'm good, thanks. the house is heading home for the weekend but the senate buy gan its session an hour ago. what's next for the legislation? >> so this legislation most likely will be voted on monday by the senate. it's even possible it could be done by unanimous consent, which is the body agrees all federal workers should get retro actively their pay for the time they missed during the shutdown. a lot of federal workers were worried this wasn't going to happen because there's been such an appetite to cut spending from house republicans. house republicans are no big fans an of the federal workforce ordinarily. so there was a lot of fear of that amongst them. but this is quite a bipartisan moment. a bill passed unanimously in the house and the workers will get their pay retroactively. we've seen the house pass piecemeal bills, things like funding nih, things like trying to fund the national parks, things like funding the basic operations of washington, d.c. they're going to continue on that strategy next week by working with things sort of funding the fda, funding head start. trying to put democrats in this difficult position of voting against popular government programs. but democrats are saying look, we don't want to pit one program against another. we want to funds all of them. just bring a clean bill to the floor. from where we are right now, mara, if a clean bill to fund the government went to the floor, it would pass. there is bipartisan support for that. just from everything cans i've had with republicans today, you're starting to see a little bit of the break in the line from folks who think there's no point having the government shutdown when the real fight is the debt limit coming up october 17th. this has become all about posturing. it will be interesting to see how it plays out early next week. the members here are gone till 6:308 p.m. on monday. they could be called back at anytime at a moment's notice. the business of washington, d.c., tomorrow will be a football day for members of the congress and they're back at it on monday. we'll still be shutdown more likely than not. >> luke russert, thanks so much. while congress debates the shutdown, american who's rely on the federal government for everything from their paycheck to vital health care are suffering. for many, time is not something they can afford. >> cancer patient michelle was hoping she would be approved for a clinical trial at the nih hospital this week. she's concerned her chances will dim if the shutdown continues. >> when you're given a terminal diagnosis, each month counts. >> josh and laura hail have five girls and zero pay. bowing are on furlough from write patterson air force base outside dayton, ohio. >> just because our paycheck stopped doesn't mean the bills stopped. they're still trying to recover from losing six days pay each because of the sequester. >> even if they end up getting reimbursed for the time off, it's too late. you know, we need money now. >> joining me now from capitol hill is congress mann frank pallone, democrat from new jersey. thanks so much for your time this afternoon. >> thank you. >> i just want to ask for your reaction to what you just heard how real people are suffering through this. >> there's no question about that. many federal employees are -- or most federal employees are furloughed, not sure they're going to get their paycheck. now we've passed this bill. that gives them some relief but the bottom line is having a negative impact on the economy and confidence in our economy is disappearing. so we need to get this government open. look, the bottom line is 200 democrats including myself have signed a letter saying they want government open with a clean resolution. and there are at least as many republicans that could make a majority in the house to do. i'm just saying look, mr. speaker, please just bring up the clean bill. we can negotiate and talk about the budget or other issues later. but there's absolutely no reason for the republican leadership and speaker boehner not to just bring up the clean bill so we can reopen everything and not do this piecemeal approach. >> in a lot of cases of political gridlock, you know there are behind the scenes negotiations going on. at least there's progress there, whether or not it's being relayed publicly. we're hearing from our sources even that is not taking place right now. where do you see this ending? how long do you see this dragging on? >> obviously, because the speaker sent us home until monday at 6:30, nothing's going to happen till monday after 6:30. i'm hoping when members do go home, they hear from their constituents particularly the republicans obviously who are in the majority and they come back and agree to do this clean bill on monday. obviously, the earliest that we can reopen now is going to be monday. but again, i can't stress enough, i mean, i know there definitely are some republicans and clearly most democrats that just want this clean bill and then we can you know, figure out later you know, while the government reopens we can negotiate the budget or other issues. but right now, the speaker and the republican leadership are not willing to do that. i really don't understand why not. it makes no sense at this point. >> you're the ranking member of the subcommittee that oversees medicaid, the food and drug administration, the national institutes of health and the centers for disease control. how do you respond to criticisms that the house is picking and choosing which programs and agencies to fund, for example, nih. >> well, again, i think that the republican leadership in deciding to just pick and choose what they want to fund, it's not the way you operate a government. we've already passed laws basically that say, for example, that there have to be food safety inspections and certain procedures carried out by the fda, you know, for drugs, for approval of drugs. the nih research programs. these should continue. there's not a funding issue here, mara, because the packet of the matter is that speaker he will pel has already agreed to the numbers that the republicans want, are at least on a temporary basis. you know, to reopen the government. so i just don't understand why the republican leadership is putting, you know, cancer patients, other people who are in research programs, those looking for nutrition programs, head start, veterans, all at risk. it doesn't make any sense. there's nothing accomplished by this continued shutdown because we've agreed on most things in terms of the budget. and we can continue to negotiate. but we don't need to have the government shutdown in the meantime. it's like hostage taking. it's not accomplishing anything on the republican side. >> all right, congressman, thanks so much for your time this afternoon. we appreciate it. >> thank you. we want to know how the government shutdown is affecting you. you can tell us by simply sending us a short video response using the #don't shut me down. now to the latest on tropical storm karen as it closes in on the gulf and could make landfall as early as tonight. tropical storm warnings and state of emergency issued for some states in the path. joining me now for the latest on all of this is nbc meteorologist bill karins. bill, karen weakened overnight. where do things stand right now? >> it's trying a little bit to get more rain bands wrapped around it. there's too much dry air. this is different image than i normally would show. you. an x-ray of the atmosphere, how much moisture. these are called tropical storms. they need humid air. when you see the blue and white, that's the humid air. look at the red, that's the drier coming off of texas. this storm is sucking in the dry air. they can't exist like that. the right said has the tropical air, the left side the dry air. that's not a healthy system. actually, the dry air has been winning out and it's been weakening. that's not going to change. finally great news for the gulf coast. right now, you can see there are some rain bands out there. it's not like going to be completely dry. this will move along the gulf coast over the next 24, 36 hours. waves will be up. bands of rain, maybe localized flooding at worst. this forecast is very minimal impacts. that's great news out of the region. the much bigger storm that caused so many more problems is the one in the midwest now heading up through south dakota. we heard got some new pictures in. i've been waiting to see these from wayne nebraska. this happened last night about 8:00 p.m. this was a big tornado that went through. report at one point to be 1 to 2-mile wide tornado. you can see some of the destruction and devastation there. looks like it went through a tractor yard and farm equipment manufacturing plant there. you can just see some of the destruction. the mayor of wayne has already said a couple million dollars worth of damage there. those look like some of the combines there for the fields. they just tossed a lot of them around and some of the buildings in the background there. you can see how rural of an area it was. it could have been a lot worse. just missed the downtown portion of wayne by about two miles. so what else do we have to worry about today? 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is it because obama care is his baby? because he'll never have to run for election again? what is different this time. >> you've named two reasons. first of course, is the republicans are insisting upon obama care being changed or repeal. that's the thing -- he's most defines his presidency. the second thing is unlike 2011, he doesn't have to run for re-election. he's not worried about winning who had rat vote ares in swing districts. that's the second important factor. the third factor important to note is the white house feels they have to breaking this republican idea that the debt ceiling is a way to extract policy changes. they want to break that for the next three years and ultimately for the next president on some level, as well. they think they have to break the ideas the republicans can use the debt ceilinging to push policy. they think it's the wrong thick to do and want to set a new precedent and make a new normal out of this and that's why they're pushing so hard. >> jonathan, i want to read you what an unidentified in the administration said to the "wall street journal" "we are winning. it doesn't matter how long the shutdown lasts. what matters is the end result. the preds then tried to walking that back yesterday. listen to what he said. >> there's no winning when families don't have certainty whether they're going to get paid or not. as long as they off the job, nobody's winning. that's the point. >> jonathan, what do you hear from the white house about this is quote and this source? >> it complicates things a little bit. it's just a very small bump in the road. it led john boehner cry some crocodile tears, this is not a game. they have to say this. kind of a kabuki dance in washington where somebody makes a gaffe, which is saying the truth which it is a game. they are playing a very deadly game of poker. and then everybody on both sides has to claim no, it's not really a game. the bottom line here is that john boehner got more than he bargained for. he's in a very tough position because if he doesn't figure out a way out of this, he could lose his speakership. this is the most important thing to him. mara, this is what a lot of people i think haven't fully understood. politics is personal. john boehner was booted out of the republican leadership in 199 . it was very humiliating for him. his worst nightmare is he can't hold this caucus together and that after the dust settles, they throw him out of the speakership and humiliate him once more. so everything he's doing is to protect his own skin. i wish i could say that he was acting in a patriotic fashion, but he's just not. it's clear that he went back on a couple of deals that he made in september that would have prevented this. he went back on them because he couldn't hold his caucus, the white house likes to say john boehner can't even deliver a pizza, and there is some truth to that, he cannot can be deliver those republican votes because he has these radicals in his party. so we'll see whether he can finesse all of this. i don't envy him but don't think he's showing real strength and character at this moment. >> perry, the house earlier today passed a measure to guarantee back pay to furloughed federal employees. harry reid actually responded to that saying house republican republicans had put workers on a paid vacation that could cost more than had sandy did. workers don't want to be without a paycheck and don't want to be furloughed. where does this legislation go from here? >> it's going to pass in the senate. i was surprised senator reid said that. federal workers are losing pay right now and will get it back. i expect the senate will pass this on monday. i think he, while disagreeing with the tacticing will ultimately agree with the strategy. i want to add unwith thing about the republicans and boehner. one challenge they face in their districts, a lot of republican voters are behind the strategy. i talked to a member yesterday who said the calls to his office were eight to one in favor of this shutdown over of obama care approach. this is a member who thought the strategy was stupid himself but felt like he was being pushed by his public and his district that the tea party in particular to be behind this. he felt he couldn't say publicly this is a bad idea because of the fact that he got a push from the conservatives in his own district. >> jonathan, i saw you nodding. what's your response? >> they created a frankenstein which is now biting them. it's true. i don't think it's the majority of republican districts but a significant number of them, they've been fed this steady diet from the rush limbaugh and the rest they actually believe -- ted cruz. they actually believe there's a chance, you know, of defunding obama care. not only is there not a 1%ence cha, there's not even a 0% chance. it simply is not going to happen. they're living in a dream world. and this is the product of what's happened over the last several years where a minority of a minority is acting as if they can prevent majority rule which is what this country was founded on. >> all right. jonathan alter, and perry bacon, thanks so much for your time this afternoon. a new movie on the jfk assassination hit theaters last night. but why is this one different from all the rest? 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>> there's one undercover officer, but then additional police officers apparently may have been present and in new york city, under code of conduct, even if you are off duty as a police officer, if you witness a crime, are you required to act. even if that means that you just call the police, you are required to take action. so that's why you're going to see the nypd investigating these officers. the undercover officer made a choice here. he don't necessarily have to blow his cover to intervene to try to stop an altercation or to try to stop someone from being nearly beat to death. he can just simply make the choice to try to intervene and not let civilians step in when you're trained and you have the knowledge and experience to know how to intervene in volatile situations. >> now in terms of civil liability, does the family of this man who was run over and injured or say the driver, do they now have a case against the nypd because there were officers present who it would seem didn't act to intervene? >> they may have a case here. it depends on what these officers actually witnessed. if they literally stood by and watched this man being beat in the street by these bikers with their helmets and from all accounts from the witness accounts it's very violent beating, you're looking at some liability here. it could very well be the case. >> talk about the men who either have been identified and are in custody or being questioned or presumably, there are others who will be brought in an at some point because there were a lot of people involved in the incident. what are the charges they are most likely to face and what are the penalties associated with this level of crime? >> obviously aggravated assault because not only 0 did they beat the driver of the suv but apparently used their helmets to beat him. so you're looking at escalating factors. by the use of a dangerous instrument, when you inflict harm or injury on someone and use a dangerous instrument like your helmet t to do that, you're looking at escalating factors. you're looking at a very serious violent felonies here which could account for years in prison for these bikers. again, the police and the investigators have to go forward and try to identify additional individuals who are involved before the beating took place on the street, i understand that the bikers slashed tires of the suv, broke windows and carried out all kinds of acts to inflict property damage on the suv before they the physical injury to the driver. >> does it matter that it was a group in the commission of this crime? does that defuse the responsibility of the people that are going to be charged or are they going to each be facing all of these charges? >> when the prosecutors look at this is ca, they have to prove charges against every individual that's charged. so it's not going to be, oh, you were there so you'll be swept up into this investigation to the charges. they know they have to to problem the elements of a crime with regard to each individual being charged. that's how they're going to look at the case. >> attorney faith jenkins, thanks so much. this is a case we'll be covering for time to come. nearly 50 years after his death, the story of jfk like you've never seen before. new film "parkland" debuts this weekend in theatersfationwide and recounts the heart stopping moments in the immediate aftermath of president kennedy's assassination. >> it is just you. >> do something! >> doctor, it is ---ing. >> i know who it is. >> joining me now is the writer and director of "parkland" peter landesman. >> great to be here. >> this is a story that's been told many times and quat often told very well. how is your telling different from what we've seen before? >> go ahead. >> that scene was actually real indicative. for so long, for 50 years really since this happened, we've seen the story of the jfk assassination played out solely through the murder mystery, the conspiracy information and conspiracy idea. this is so much more powerful and interesting and fascinating and kind of compulsive element to this. we completely ignored it all this time. the story of the doctors, zack ephron brilliantly plays this rookie 26-year-old resident who is a student, not even a real doctor who is alone with the president for ten minutes before anybody else comes in. that's all true. i goss fascinated by that side. who were those people? the nurses, the doctors, the brother of the killer, the fbi agency knew about oswald. >> that is a fascinating detail. i haven't seen the film yet. that alone sold me. roll call describes your movie saying "it's both a thriller that tells a familiar chapter of history in an incredibly original way and tragedy of immensely personal dimensions." was that the kind of story you wanted to tell? >> perfectly. i wish i wrote that story myself. i might have. you know, i went through 9/11 in lower manhattan as a reporter for the "new york times" magazine and was quickly in afghanistan and pakistan, and so i saw, that was a big inspiration for me because i saw what was a large worldwide event solely through the ground level through the people happening. you know, what was happening to them on the street, the firemen, policemen, reporters, soldiers on the ground in afghanistan. it's how i tend to see big historical pictures is through the small lens which frankly, turns out to be the bigger more profound more personal and more inspiring and emotional way in. so it's a way for an audience to connect with t jfk assassination personally, not through history books, not through conspiracy ideas. it's really a very personal, wonderful emotional movie. >> there are some intense scenes in the film. gut wrempling at times points. there were automobile a lot of gruesome details you had to contend with when you're making a movie like this. where did you draw the line between trying to portray reality and not being too long graphic in your portrayal. >> we wrestled with it till the very end. it's a gut decision. we wanted to be real. went waed to give the audience the experience of being, for instance in that trauma room or in the limousine when kennedy was hit. we needed the audience to be able to digest it and be there without looking away, without feeling upset or upset in a way. it's okay to be intense and okay to be confronted, but it's not okay to be overwhelmed by it. and you know, it's about calibration. this much, this much in this direction and finally okay, this is enough blood. this is how we can get there. i know over that line, it's not a thing you put your finger on but know when you're there. >> it deals with the footage of the assassination, abraham za puder. let's take a look. >> the film in that camera is the only way we have to know what happened out here today. do you understand that? it's a matter of national security. >> i need to think. >> sir, i'm no longer asking. >> and the film also focuses on lee harvey oswald and his family. why did you want to convey those parts of the story. >> you know, again, these are things we think we know everything about. the zapruder film and oswald. the truth is in reality we know nothing. lee harvey oswald was a sad sociopath thick way ward narcissistic little kid. same psychological profile as the guy in aurora, colorado. these people all share a psychological profile that forces them nons small people to do horrific things. zapruder's story is ca that's right tick, fascinating. that film has become a piece of pop culture but there was a man who shot that film and what happened to him after, that film was used in many ways as a weapon against him. >> peter landesman, thanks so much for your time this afternoon. a fascinating film. in today's office politics, alex talks to "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner. he tells him about a curious encounter and his wife and former president george w. bush. first, alex asked steve what would happen if the government shutdown goes on. >> hurts the economy in any number of ways for businessmen, it creates enormous uncertainty. you can't plan, you don't hire. there's a fair amount of evidence when washington gets into one of these dysfunctional moments, business pulls back from making any kind of major decisions. that's obviously bad for the economy. secondly, you have 800,000 government workers now off the payroll. maybe they'll get paid later, maybe they won't. if you look at economists' estimates it will reduce our growth rate and cost jobs in this economy. so it's basically a way that washington is not only not helping but is actually hurting our chances of getting out of this economic funk we've been in. >> who do you blame for this constant government by crisis mode? >> again, i think the system has changed. i know people like to blame the president because he didn't play golf enough with them, he didn't bend their arms, didn't have them in for drinks. sure, in a perfect world, i would have loved to see him do more of that. do i think if you dug up johnson today and put him in the qulous, do i think stuff would get done, not particularly. medicare was passed because democrats had an overwhelming majority in both houses. obama never had an overwhelming majority and he doesn't have the 60 votes in the senate. so you have gridlock, divided government. all the factors we talked about that have taken power away from our leaders which i actually think is a bad thing. leaders should have some power. >> you guys like to ski, huh. >> we did a lot of skiing. i skied a reasonable amount in my youth. my approach to my kids was there were a bunch of sports i wanted them to learn how to do and in later life they could do it or not do it. >> does anyone in the family love art as much as you do? because as we look over here, that is an original picasso. >> that's a picasso work on paper. it's the low end of picasso has the little plaque. but it's interesting because i mostly starred collecting prints. and mostly contemporary and then kind of worked my way back and started doing works on paper like that. but in the print world, so i have prints and there are others around. what's fun to me when the kids were little i would take them down to the museum of modern art and they would say we have that picture. all these years of being here where we never talked much about it, i didn't think they absorbed it, they absorbed more than i thought. none of them are yet in the collecting world but perhaps they'll pick some of that up. >> next week's guess, kill berle dozier who covers intelligence and counter-terrorism for the associated press will tell us about her experience in the war zone. for americans who think congress should not be paid during the shutdown, more than 100 lawmakers have an answer for them. coming up next. while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benefits with the risks. all prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, naproxen and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. they all may increase the chance of heart attack or stroke, which can lead to death. this chance increases if you have heart disease or risk factors such as high blood pressure or when nsaids are taken for long periods. nsaids, like celebrex, increase the chance of serious skin or allergic reactions, or stomach and intestine problems, such as bleeding and ulcers, which can occur without warning and may cause death. patients also taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers. don't take celebrex if you have bleeding in the stomach or intestine, or had an asthma attack, hives, other allergies to aspirin, nsaids or sulfonamides. get help right away if you have swelling of the face or throat, or trouble breathing. tell your doctor your medical history. and find an arthritis treatment for you. visit celebrex.com and ask your doctor about celebrex. for a body in motion. that your mouth is under attack, from food particles and bacteria. try fixodent. it helps create a food seal defense for a clean mouth and kills bacteria for fresh breath. ♪ fixodent, and forget it. 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>> it really does. i think if anyone has not declined or even given their check to charity this week when certainly furloughed federal workers are suffering irreparable harm, even if they vote this had morning to repay them for this time off work, if any one of you has missed a paycheck, you know there are late fees, eviction notices to cure, there are late card notes, all of these financial damages these workers are suffering. they will never be able to recoup those costs. i really do think they are disconnected from how real people are living their daily lives. >> to that end, susan, "the new york times" editorial board highlights the economic gap between lawmakers and their constituents. is that part of the problem? because lawmakers are so far removed economically from the people they're representing, that they are living a little bit in a bubble? >> they live a little bit in a bubble because they live in a world they're entitled to all the things that are washington, d.c. and that they are very important when they go back to their districts. the fact is, this is nothing more than a pr stunt. i'm sure a lot of those members are waiting till next thursday which is when the federal employees will get their paychecks so right now, while they're not working with a bay check, the paycheck doesn't come till next thursday. that's what everyone's looking towards. >> morris, i want to take a listen to debbie wasserman-schultz told msnbc earlier this week. >> are you going to continue to take your salary. >> yes, i'm going to continue to take my salary. >> and we should note a lot of republicans are also saying the same thing. so what about backlash from constituents angry that their represent tins are getting paid during a shutdown? do lawmakers have anything to be concerned about there? >> i think everyone that works in the government has something to do with the shutdown needs to be mindful of this and there's going to be a backlash whether you're a republican or a democrat. it's the audacity that you would grandstand and use political stunts to have the impact they're having on american people's lives. there's children at stakes, grandparents at stake. it's not like we're living in the greatest economy in the world. so the fact that congress would play these type of fiscal games with other people's money, that's the key here. they're playing games with other people's money. they can do all their political stunts but do them and have impact on your own pocketbook, not the american people. and it doesn't impact washington, d.c. it has a ripple effect around the entire country. >> morris brings up a really good point i'd like to add to. it's what people will feel at home. if they're feeling the ripple effects of the shutdown, whether it's because they can't make their bills or grocery oz or can't get into the certain things or people are furloughed, that's what's going to affect it, not these grandstanding measures of taking a paycheck or not taking a paycheck. >> our next topic, tired of the blame game. take a quick listen. >> we have other members in this orwellian week saying that the shutdown is all about respect, and we've got to get something out of this. we just don't know what it is. >> this week they said no to opening up our national memorials or our national parks like yellowstone or the grand canyon. >> our hard working public servants should not become collateral damage in the political games and ideological wars that republicans are waging >> this administration has chosen needlessly to furlough workers. >> that's all ound from the house floor just today. so goldie, does it really matter right now who's to blame or does the public just want them to figure this out? >>. >> well, i think there's really nothing to figure out. i don't think that you tie the health care law, you know, to whether or not you're going to run this federal government forward or not. i just don't think you tie the two together. it's nothing short of blackmail. at the end of the day, the president and this speaker of the house really need to come together and make a decision right now that they're going to reopen this government, they're going to lift the debt ceiling and later, after they've done that, they're going to have meaningful conversations about debt and and this country. i think those are real conversations to be had about right sizing this government. but the very notion that you don't want 25 to 30 million people in this country to have access to health care coverage and so you're going to shut down the federal government, which is causing some irreparable damage to real families and to our nation's economy is poppyand has to stop. >> we had congressman ryan last week and he said redistricting essentially saying the republicans in the house are safe in their home districts because the lines have been redrawn. and in many cases they're concern if being challenged by someone who's even more conservative than them. is that factoring in here? >> well, yes, it absolutely is. but people in those districts, those extreme right districts if you will, they're being applauded. their constituents are happy with the shutdown. they are okay with it. so they get to go home to their districts as heroes. it doesn't make them, in my opinion, a hero in what they're doing in washington. in fact, it's despicable that they've shut down the government over a piece of legislation that has passed and is in effect and went online on tuesday. so it's absurd that's the case. but i think that we're going to go towards something of throw those bums out, not just on the right, but you're also going to see it on the left where washington is just going to become an ugly place and people are going to say we want change. >> morris, we're going to pick things back up with you after the break. and coming up next, jay leno has some laughs at my expense. that's coming up next. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? 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[ hans ] warm, flakey, gooey. toaster strudel! well, before we get back to our big three, i wanted to share a clip from "the tonight show" when obama care enrollment went online tuesday, i tried to sign up. and we taped it to show what the process would be like. we used that as a segment on msnbc. turns out that wasn't the only place it was used as jay leno has fub with it. >> they keep saying it's easy to do. one msnbc reporter tried to sign up live for it on the air the other day. this is real. take a look. >> so i sent an activation link to my personal e-mail account. i'm going to proceed. i keep getting this error page. so i'm going to call the help number now. now i'm on hold. it's my second time calling. so it just started ringing again. but i haven't reached a person yet. >> so just for the record the jay leno folks manipulated that video. i did not freak out like that on the phone or the computer. but i would say that's my best and worst moment for the week. and i'd like to turn to my panel for your picks and worst, morris, i want to start with you. >> well, i think that the winner for the week is that the shutdown is our competition, russia, china, iran, you know, as we show the dysfunctionalty of washington, d.c., you see their leadership moving forward with their agenda and the president is not even going to the summit in asia. the losers of the week are the taxpayers. if this is what our tax dollars are going to, this dysfunctionalty, we all deserve a refund and demand a refund. >> gold goldie. >> i was going to say senator harry reid may be my winner this week, but i think nobody may be my winner this week. >> good call. >> at the end of the day who's lost this week is all of us. these hundreds of thousands of federal workers who are now taxing the unemployment trust funds and their individual states and so this is really having a really harsh trickle-down effect that i don't think we're going to be able to overcome for quite some time. >> susan, quickly. >> best week goes to governor chris christie because he has nothing to do with washington. in fact, he used that as an example of what's wrong. and then the worst week goes to the gop. right now they are looking as the problem and not the solution. >> all right. goldie, morris, susan, thank you all so much. that wraps things up for me. i . up next, we have the latest on the shutdown. have a good one. i'm on expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. ready to plan for your future? we'll help you get there. 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some children went home. >> how and why this happened remains under investigation. police have i not had an opportunity to talk with the bus driver. the skidmarks do lead to the spot where the bus went over. a mystery, how the bus managed to turn to face the opposite direction. the bus is equipped with one onboard camera. it could help explain the chain of events. crews tasked with retrieving the wreckage said that getting the vehicle out of the mix of trees was short of a miracle. the bus appears to be significantly damaged, towed to the garage to be inspected. the bus driver was in the middle of her route of the accident. the students attend pikesville middle school. official sent an alert to parents, not just the ones who had children on the bus. receiving that was frightening. >> your heart is in your throat. you are terrified, hoping your child is ok. >> reported northwest baltimore county, wbal-tv 11 news. >> new traffic laws have been in effect. both more police are making sure drivers are practicing safe driving. we are here at harford road. police officers from baltimore city and maryland state police are here. they're pulling people over if they're not wearing a seatbelt. it will be pulled over if you're talking on a cell phone. this is one of the first checkpoint in the city. it will not be the last. when an officer made a car stop, it was secondary. officer sees you not wearing your seatbelt or utilizing a cell phone, it is a primary offense. if you're pulled over and given a ticket, or talking for the cell phone, it will cost you $83. that is the citation. i would advise everyone to buckle up and don't talk on your cell phone while driving. don't hold the cell phone in your hand and talk. that is the secret. >> a howard county man is charged with running a drug operation out of a house that is also served as a child day care center. police say david anderson had set up a marijuana growing facility under the house, complete with an insulated room him a high intensity lighting, and a piping system to vent heat and smell. authorities made the discovery acting on an anonymous tip. he is at on $35,000 bond. at the chuckle center has been suspended. >> and maryland cardiologist sued by a former patient for unnecessary medical procedure. simms in the courtroom today for opening statements. i look at day one of the trial. is suingrmer patient for one or $2 million, claiming he never showed up -- should have performed the procedure. he found blockages in the asians heart arteries, and opened them. >> the civil lawsuit against st. joseph medical center claims her was a breach in the standard of care. a partner in the company received three metal stents to prevent artery blockage. the suit alleges the procedure was performed despite the arteries functioning perfectly. weinberg's attorney called this a slamdunk case. the truth is in the medical records which are loaded with errors and acree sees. clues -- she's accused of mr. printing -- he is accused of misrepresenting the medical conditions. missed,e projects he [indiscernible] federal investigators found that between 2007 and 2009, baltimore day performed hundreds of step procedures that did not need them. the maryland board of physicians charged with unprofessional conduct. in 2011, he lost his maryland medical license. 250settled to unfitted he -- lawsuits with other patients. every procedure he performed was medically necessary, according to the doctor. . >> they were performed -- they were treated with the highest regard. i'm confident in everything i have done. opening statements continue on monday. >> watching and waiting. that is what the next few days will be for people along the gulf coast. >> a tropical storm watch is in effect for the area. how cities are preparing for karen, and the world the shutdown could playing. -- play. >> a blizzard in the rockies. a tropical storm in the gulf. summer weather hanging on. the forecast coming . meetingcher town hall at the new york city library. a meeting that will feature a number maryland educators. baltimore county teacher can really solomon is headed to the big apple. it will cover a number of issues. is headed to new york. he will have education nation reports starting monday. >> states along the gulf coast are keeping a close eye on tropical storm karen. areas from louisiana to the florida panhandle, many people are heading to higher ground. the storm was packing sustained winds. forecasters expected to possibly gather strength before reaching the shore line. like new orleans or not taking chances. us the allows flexibility and authority to make necessary actions. should things change quickly. our merge operation center is going to be activated 24/7 starting this evening. >> name is daily operations briefing says the agency is what they call non-mission capable because of the government shutdown. only 19% of the agencies workforce is available deployment. you can track the storms at your fingertips with our free her cap. -- free hurricane app. remnants. >> would make it the rain from it. an extended stretch of dry conditions. it feels tropical out there. almost 90 degrees. 89, 18 degrees warmer than what you would expect in october. dulles airport a record high of 90 degrees. it was feeling like a summertime . 71 is the normal high. 50 is the normal low. below freezing on the day in 1974. we are not talking any cooler air. it is going be hot and humid through the weekend. on the eastern shore, temperatures in the 80s. humidity levels are high. it feels like august instead of october. it is generating spotty showers in the mountains. they are falling apart and drying out. we will take any threat of rain staying to our north and west. form, megan isy condensing into fog -- muggy temperatures condensing into fog. warm and muggy tomorrow. light winds and a high of 83 degrees. a good day to be on the bay. not much of a breeze. high tide at fort mchenry, 7:08. close to 80 in western maryland. a 20% chance of pop-up showers. decent summer conditions in the mountains. the eastern shore, mid-80s and humid. colston areas in the low 80s. low 80s.l areas in the it is going to be different night week -- next week. blizzard conditions in the northern plains. winds at 45 miles per hour were. a foot of snow. only 32 right now in south dakota. moisture from karen moving north. the fund coming in from the west. that is where the best rain chances will be. the main thunderstorm activity is to the east of us. that wind shear is presenting -- preventing it from striking. you can see the track takes it three georgia and south carolina. that is where our rain chances will spike up. monday through the weekend. a good chance for rain. cooler weather returns for the middle of next week read >> -- next week. >> good news for the ravens. there he is wet and morgan brown returned to practice. practice for the first time since the injury. a game on the road. it has not been easy for the ravens this season. last week, five interceptions to joe flacco. 203 yards on the ground. not the ravens we have come to know. a puzzling sequence. >> we have not played well on the road. we need to play well on the road. factoroing to be a big in determining how we start the season. if we play well we will have a chance to be in good shape. if we do not, we are going to have a problem. wine asked which team will sunday. 73% think it will be john harbaugh's victory. well.s ago, all was fighting for the central title, and then a six-game losing streak to end the season. capping things off, baker fired today by the reds. he managed for six season. never won a postseason series. the top two, the spurs pitcher. the top three, pedro perez. he is afraid to hit the ball. he earned it today. pittsburgh evened the season. day two of the presidents. a long one. rain delays in ohio. an houre to do, only of daylight remains. the course in good shape. tiger woods, alternate shots first toll. lead through 17. mickelson at- phil fit. weekend coverage here on tv 11. stay with us to the forecast. >> a woman killed during a fiery crash. two suspects laid to rest. by her family is still demanding answers from the city. one teenagers frightening ordeal as the school but she was on swerve off the road and overturned into a ditch. these stories for you on 11:00 news tonight. >> 86 and muddy saturday and sunday. tickets: next week. >> get up and have a good week. >> abc nightly news is next. on the broadcast tonight, national impact. from what washington has done. the government shutdown is really hitting home now for a lot of american families who are just trying to put food on the table. what really happened that set off that big scare and fatal shooting on capitol hill, and what we have learned so far about the woman behind the wheel. statof emergency along the gulf coast as a big storm closes in. evacuations tonight in parts of louisiana. elizabeth smart talks with meredith vieira. a decade after her kidnapping ordeal she talks about why she didn't run when it looked like she had the chance. and master class. how the great tony bennett is putting his money where his heart is. "nightly news" begins now. good evening. both sides in washington can end the standoff and stop this government shutdown any time they please. but instead, as one veteran former member of congress put it today -- this country is hurting as we head into this weekend. while this has been caused by washington, the impact has spread across america throughout this country. in a moment the prospects for a solution to this any time soon. first tonight how this government, closed for business, is hitting hard for so many. we begin with nbc's miguel almaguer. >> reporter: in talladega, alabama, wendy robinson has been furloughed. a single mom with three mouths to feed, today she got her last paycheck. robinson blames congress. >> i do think that it is nonsense. they need to get their acts together. >> reporter: a teacher in the government-funded head start program, robinson also lost her child care and has no savings. >> i'm at a loss for words really about it. i'm not used to not giving my kids a christmas. >> reporter: in oaklawn, illinois this center is offering discounts on formula and will soon run out of money. >> i do not think that congress is even thinking about the little people like us. >> reporter: single mother of three, rebecca warpowski is worried and unemployed. >> i need these programs to help me survive. >> reporter: at the feeding south florida distribution center, shelves aren't empty yet. but the usda sent out its last shipment of supplies yesterday. for more than 200 food banks across the country, when shelves go bare, people will go hungry. >> reporter: experts say if the government shutdown lasts a few more days or a few weeks longer it is going to affect us all, hitting us right here in the grocery store. the fda which checks fruits and vegetables for quality and safety has furloughed nearly half its workforce and cancelled routine inspections. >> the consumer may see prices rise if things cannot be imported because inspections aren't being done. there may be less of a choice in the grocery store. >> reporter: fewer inspectors means higher prices. >> puts me and my family at risk if the fruits and vegetables ant being inspected. if the price increase s as well it's a strain on our budget. >> reporter: the impact b in the grocery store could be next. but many families are feeling the pain now. miguel almaguer, nbc news, pomona, california. so this is day four of the shutdown. it seems really no close to being solved than it was at this time last night. kelly o'donnell has an update tonight on where the showdown stands. >> reporter: this lunchtime stroll became the president's message event of shutdown day four. >> how's it going, everybody? >> reporter: forced to cancel his four-country trip to asia. president obama and vice president biden visited a local sandwich shop. >> i'm happy to have negotiations with the republicans and speaker boehner on a whole range of issues. but we can't do it with a gun held to the head of the american people. >> reporter: a flash of anger today
government-funded head start program, robinson also lost her child care and has no savings. >> i'm at a loss for words really about it. i'm not used to not giving my kids a christmas. >> reporter: in oaklawn, i will noise, families in need turn to this center, offering discounts on formula and will soon run out of money. >> i do not think that congress is even thinking about the little people like us. >> reporter: single mother of three, rebecca warpowski is worried and unemployed. >> i need these programs to help me survive. >> reporter: at the feeding south florida distribution center, shelves aren't empty yet. but the usda sent out its last shipment of supplies yesterday. for more than 200 food banks across the country, when shelves go bare, people will go hungry. >> reporter: experts say if the government shutdown lasts a few more days or a few weeks longer it is going to affect us all, hitting us right here in the grocery store. the fda which checks fruits and vegetables for quality and safety has furloughed nearly half its workforce and cancelled routine inspections. >> the consumer may see prices rise if things cannot be imported because inspections aren't being done. there may be less of a choice in the grocery store. >> reporter: fewer inspectors means higher prices. >> puts me and my family at risk if the fruits and vegetables ant being inspected. if the price increases as well it's a strain on our budget. >> reporter: the impact in the grocery store could be next. but many families are feeling the pain now. miguel almaguer, nbc news, pomona, california. so this is day four of the shutdown. it seems really no close to being solved than it was at this time last night. kelly o'donnell has an update tonight on where the showdown stands. >> reporter: this lunchtime stroll became the president's message event of shutdown day four. >> how's it going, everybody? >> reporter: forced to cancel his four-country trip to asia. president obama and vice president biden visited a local sandwich shop. >> i'm happy to have negotiations with the republicans and speaker boehner on a whole range of issues. but we can't do it with a gun held to the head of the american people. >> reporter: a flash of anger today from house speaker john boehner who claims the white house is keeping score. >> the wall street journal says, we don't care how long this lasts because we are winning. this isn't some damn game. the american people don't want their government shut down, and neither do i. >> reporter: this quote from an unnamed white house official on the length of the standoff. we are winning. it doesn't really matter to us. winning became today's loaded word as the president reacted. >> there is no winning when families don't have certainty about whether they are going to get paid or not. >> reporter: the public is venting anger on social media. nbc asked for your thoughts on twitter, tracking this hashtag, # dearcongress. enough already. a woman from oklahoma writes, you're making americans look foolish. another says, you've all failed. grow up and figure it out. adding to the frustration, lawmakers tell me a majority would go right now to re-open the government. that won't happen tonight or this weekend. house leadership will not call for the vote to avoid further alienating tea party conservatives who still insist on using this fight to change the health care law. >> kelly o'donnell, nbc news, the capitol. two more notes about this shutdown. first, the president cancelled his upcoming trip to indonesia. that's the third time he has done so in his presidency. we mention ed this earlier. previous cancellations were because of the original health care debate and the bp oil spill. and look at what "the washington post" noticed about a weather statement from the national weather service in anchorage. there it is there. look there at the left-hand margin. all the letters down the side spell out "please pay us." the weather office working without pay like so many in the federal government while in this case continuing to get forecasts out on time every day. now to yesterday's wild scene and the fatal shooting that ended it on capitol hill in washington. a young woman with her child in the car leading police on a high speed chase and the decision by police and that high security environment to shoot to kill. our justice correspondent pete williams following all of it from our d.c. newsroom tonight. pete, good evening. >> reporter: good evening. investigators say miriam kerry went downhill after having her baby, suffered post partum depression, delusions and she was hospitalized. she believed the federal government had her under surveillance and president obama was communicating with her. after searching her condo in connecticut and talking with relatives, investigators say she had been diagnosed with depression and psychosis but had recently stopped taking her medications. they say travel records show she drove directly from there to washington yesterday. the chaotic events began at a security checkpoint on the perimeter of the white house grounds. her car turned into this driveway, hit temporary fencing and started backing up, striking a sec rhett service officer causing minor injuries. she speeds up pennsylvania toward the capitol going 80 at one point. police thought it was over when she got just below the u.s. capitol when they managed to t get her stopped. that's when it escalated. as they approached the car she jammed it into reverse striking a patrol car and took the off again. this time secret service offers and police officers fired nine shots. she kept driving, looping around traffic circles and up past the capitol building with bullet holes visible in the car. it ended on the other side of the white house. she was coming up constitution avenue near the senate office building when police again opened fire. they say she saw the barriers had been raised so she shifted into reverse to try to turn around. police say in the course of that, she backed into this police guard booth. 17 shots at that location. only after did they discover her 1-year-old child was in the car, unharmed. chuck wexler says police are trained not to shoot at cars but around the capitol there is a worry of car bombs. >> you have improvised devices, terrorism. policing in washington, d.c. is more complicated. they have to protect u.s. capitol and the white house. they are concerned about terrorism. >> reporter: one thing people ask is why not shoot the tires? >> these things happen quickly. you had a situation where one police officer was already hurt. they tried to get into the white house. now they are trying to get into the u.s. capitol. these things happened almost instantaneously. >> reporter: police will conduct an investigation to see if the use of deadly force was justified. a standard practice in an incident like this. members of her family were here today to claim her body and take her daughter home. brian? >> pete williams in our d.c. bureau tonight. pete, thanks. weather is making news tonight. mandatory evacuations are under way in plaquemines parish, louisiana, where there are fears of storm surge as tropical storm karen closes in. there are warnings along much of the gulf coast. weather channel meteorologist jim cantore is in the florida panhandle. when louisiana is in the cone we worry but given the sport ji surf behind you the cone must be wide. >> it is, brian. the storm will come north and take a right turn and scrape the florida panhandle. so many are under tropical storm warnings incluing pensacola beach. this is a tropical storm and that's three to five feet of surge. this is an area not protected by the levee system that protects new orleans. you can see the big sur of. even with the storm offshore the waves come first. life guards are keep ing people out of the water as the waves continue to grow. they have been trying to se w up anything they can on the beach. we ex expect 15 to 65 miles per hour winds here. this is the track and the timing. plaquemines parish around sunday, 1:00 in the morning. so it will be an overnight landfall there. there is the right turn taking you toward pensacola beach probably sunday at 1:00. a lot of the wet weather on the east side of the storm mostly in the florida panhandle. there will be a surge component, the most dangerous part of any tropical system. >> jim, we'll keep an eye on it with you. thanks. now to the west, there are blizzard warnings in parts of six separate states tonight. an unseasonably early storm. folks in the black hills are bracing for up to three feet of snow. to top it off, 70 miles an hour winds across the plains. overseas, a history-making visit as pope francis visited the birthplace of st. francis in assissi, italy. when the pope took the name francis, the first to do so, he was sending a message about refocusing the search and serving the poor. he delivered that unmistakable message again today and nbc's anne thompson is traveling with him. >> reporter: pope francis is a man on a mission. today walking in the footsteps of his namesake st. francis of assissi who gave up wealth to serve the poor. the same mission this pope wants for the catholic church he leads. today francis lingered taking time to reach back to many reaching out to him. his first stop, a center for the physically and mentally challenged, engaging each person he met. the pope chose to have lunch at a soup kitchen. led to the table by a child for a meal of lasagna and roast beef. 60 people a day are served here. where did the pope sit? >> he was sitting there. >> reporter: he says the pope ate little, but his presence made those who society often ignores feel important. >> he don't speak a lot. he listened. >> reporter: in the same room where eight centuries ago st. francis re announced his wealth, pope francis remembered the hundreds of people feared dead in yesterday's ship wreck off the coast of sicily. this, he said, was a day to cry and a day to call the church to be more simple like st. francis. in assissi, there are signs of worldliness, many bearing the pope's efface. here, tourism is a well oiled machine. this is one of italy's most popular destinations, profiting from pilgrims and nonbelievers alike. caught up in the enthusiasm of the day this couple from philadelphia. >> the love coming from the people for this pope is amazing. >> reporter: a poll shows american catholics back the pope's determination to change the focus of the church. something he pressed ahead with this week helped by eight hand-picked cardinals. at the end of the day, this pope, revived by the people as he worked to revive the church. anne thompson, nbc news, assissi. still ahead for us on this friday night, elizabeth smart, a young teenager when she was kidnapped, now a 25-year-old woman. talking to meredith vieira about the tale she hasn't revealed until now. later tonight, tony bennett paying it forward and bringing it to a new generation. 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good evening. both sides in washington can end the standoff and stop this government shutdown any time they please. but instead, as one veteran former member of congress put it today, this country is hurting as we head into this weekend. while this has been caused by washington, the impact from it has spread across america throughout this country. in a moment the prospects for a solution to this any time soon. but first tonight, how this government closed for business is hitting hard for so many. we begin with nbc's miguel almaguer. >> reporter: in talladega, alabama, wendy robinson has been furloughed. a single mom with three mouths to feed, today she got her last paycheck. robinson blames congress. >> i do think that it is nonsense. they need to get their acts together. >> reporter: a teacher in the government-funded head start program, robinson also lost her child care and has no savings. >> i'm at a loss for words really about it. i'm not used to not giving my kids a christmas. >> reporter: in oaklawn, i will noise, families in need turn to this center, offering discounts on formula and will soon run out of money. >> i do not think that congress is even thinking about the little people like us. >> reporter: single mother of three, rebecca warpowski is worried and unemployed. >> i need these programs to help me survive. >> reporter: at the feeding south florida distribution center, shelves aren't empty yet. but the usda sent out its last shipment of supplies yesterday. for more than 200 food banks across the country, when shelves go bare, people will go hungry. >> reporter: experts say if the government shutdown lasts a few more days or a few weeks longer it is going to affect us all, hitting us right here in the grocery store. the fda which checks fruits and vegetables for quality and safety has furloughed nearly half its workforce and cancelled routine inspections. >> the consumer may see prices rise if things cannot be imported because inspections aren't being done. there may be less of a choice in the grocery store. >> reporter: fewer inspectors means higher prices. >> puts me and my family at risk the the fruits and vegetables aren't being inspected. if the price increases as well it's a strain on our budget. >> reporter: the impact in the grocery store could be next. but many families are feeling the pain now. miguel almaguer, nbc news, pomona, california. so this is day four of the shutdown. it seems, really, no closer to being solved than it was at this time last night. kelly o'donnell has an update tonight on where the showdown stands. >> reporter: this lunchtime stroll became the president's message event of shutdown day four. >> how's it going, everybody? >> reporter: forced to cancel his four-country trip to asia. president obama and vice president biden visited a local sandwich shop. >> i'm happy to have negotiations with the republicans and speaker boehner on a whole range of issues. but we can't do it with a gun held to the head of the american people. >> reporter: a flash of anger today from house speaker john boehner who claims the white house is keeping score. >> we get the wall street journal out, it says we don't care how long this lasts because we're winning. this isn't some damn game. the american people don't want their government shut down, and neither do i. >> reporter: boehner referred to this quote from an unnamed white house official on the length of this standoff. we are winning. it doesn't really matter to us. winning became today's loaded word as the president reacted. >> there is no winning when families don't have certainty about whether they are going to get paid or not. >> reporter: the public is venting anger on social media. nbc asked for your thoughts on twitter, tracking this hashtag, #dearcongress. enough already. a woman from oklahoma writes, you're making americans look foolish. another says, you've all failed. grow up and figure it out. adding to the frustration, lawmakers tell me a majority would vote right now to re-open the government. that won't happen tonight or this weekend. house leadership will not call for the vote to avoid further alienating tea party conservatives who still insist on using this fight to change the health care law. >> kelly o'donnell, nbc news, the capitol. two more notes about this shutdown. first, the president cancelled his upcoming trip to indonesia. that's the third time he has done so in his presidency. we mixed -- mentioned this earlier. previous cancellations were because of the original health care debate and the bp oil spill. and look at what "the washington post" noticed about a weather statement from the national weather service in anchorage. there it is there. look there at the left-hand margin. all the letters down the side spell out "please pay us." the entire weather office working without pay like so many others in the federal government while in this case continuing to get their forecasts out on time every day. now to yesterday's wild scene and the fatal shooting that ended it on capitol hill in washington. a young woman with her child in the car leading police on a high speed chase and the decision by police in that high security environment to shoot to kill. our justice correspondent pete williams following all of it from our d.c. newsroom tonight. pete, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening. investigators say miriam carey went down hill after having her baby, suffering postpartum depression, delusions, and she was hospitalized. she believed the federal government had her under surveillance and president obama was communicating with her. after searching miriam carey's condo in connecticut and talking with relatives, investigators said she had been diagnosed with depression and psychosis but had recently stopped taking her medications. they say travel records show she drove directly from there to washington yesterday. the chaotic events began at a security checkpoint on the perimeter of the white house grounds. at 12:12 in the afternoon her car turned into this driveway, hit some temporary fencing and then started backing up, striking a secret service officer causing minor injuries. no shots were fired here. from there, she speeds up pennsylvania avenue toward the capitol going 80 at one point. police thought it was over when she got just below the u.s. capitol when they managed to get her stopped. that's when it escalated. as they approached the car she jammed it into reverse striking a patrol car and then took off again. this time secret service offers and police officers fired nine shots. she kept driving, looping around traffic circles and up past the capitol building with bullet holes visible in the car. it ended on the other side of the white house. she was coming up constitution avenue near the senate office building when police again opened fire. they say she saw the barriers that pop in the streets had been raised so she shifted into reverse to try to turn around and police say in the course of that, she backed into this police guard booth. 17 shots at that location. only after did they discover her 1-year-old child was in the car, unharmed. chuck wexler says police are trained not a shoot at fleeing cars, but around the capitol and white house, there's a constant worry about car bombs. >> you have improvised devices, terrorism. policing in washington, d.c. is a lot more complicated. they have to protect u.s. capitol and the white house. they are concerned about terrorism. >> reporter: one thing people ask is why not just shoot out the tires? >> these things happen quickly. you had a situation where one police officer was already hurt. they tried to get into the white house. now they are trying to get into the u.s. capitol. these things happened almost instantaneously. >> reporter: police will conduct an investigation to see if the use of deadly force was justified. a standard practice in an incident like this. members of miriam carey's family were here today to claim her body and take her daughter back home. brian? >> pete williams in our d.c. bureau tonight. pete, thanks. weather is making news tonight. mandatory evacuations are under way in plaquemines parish, louisiana, where there are fears of storm surge as tropical storm karen closes in. there are warnings along much of the gulf coast. weather channel meteorologist jim cantore is on the pensacola beach in the florida panhandle. when louisiana is in the cone we worry but given the sport ji surf behind you the cone must be wide. >> it is, brian. the storm will come north and take a right turn and scrape the florida panhandle. so many are under tropical storm warnings including us here tonight at pensacola beach. this is a tropical storm and that's three to five feet of surge. this is an area not protected by the levee system that protects new orleans. let me show you what they've been doing today. you can see the big surf behind me here. even with the storm offshore the waves come first. life guards have been keeping people out of the water as the waves continue to grow. they have been trying to se w up anything they can on the beach. we ex expect 15 to 65 miles per hour winds here. this is the track and the timing. plaquemines parish around sunday, 1:00 in the morning. so it will be an overnight landfall there. then again, there's the right turn taking it towards pensacola beach probably sunday at 1:00. a lot of the wet weather will be on the east side of the storm mostly in the florida panhandle, but there will be that surge component. the most dangerous part of any tropical system. >> jim, we'll keep an eye on it with you. thanks. now to the west, there are blizzard warnings in parts of six separate states tonight. an unseasonably early storm. already shut down highways in parts of wyoming, south dakota. folks in the black hills are bracing for up to three feet of snow. to top it off, 70 mile-an-hour winds across the plains. overseas, a history-making visit as pope francis visited the birthplace of st. francis in assissi, italy. when the pope took the name francis, the first to do so, he was sending a message about refocusing the search and serving the poor. he delivered that unmistakable message again today and nbc's anne thompson is traveling with him. >> reporter: pope francis is a man on a mission. today walking in the footsteps of his namesake st. francis of assissi who gave up wealth to serve the poor. the same mission this pope wants for the catholic church he now leads. today francis lingered taking time to reach back to many reaching out to him. his first stop, a center for the physically and mentally challenged, engaging each person he met. the pope chose to have lunch at a soup kitchen. led to the table by a child for a meal of lasagna and roast beef. 60 people a day are served here. where did the pope sit? >> he was sitting there. >> reporter: he says the pope ate little, but his presence made those who society often ignores feel important. >> he don't speak a lot. he listened. >> reporter: in the same room where eight centuries ago st. francis renounced his wealth, pope francis remembered the hundreds of people feared dead in yesterday's ship wreck off the coast of sicily. this, he said, was a day to cry and a day to call the church to be more simple like st. francis. in assissi, there are signs of worldliness, many bearing the pope's efface. here, tourism is a well oiled machine. assissi is one of italy's most popular destinations profiting from pilgrims and nonbelievers alike. caught up in the enthusiasm of the day this couple from philadelphia. >> the love coming from the people for this pope is amazing. >> reporter: a poll shows american catholics back the pope's determination to change the focus of the church. something he pressed ahead with this week helped by eight hand-picked cardinals. at the end of a long day, this pope revived by the people as he works to revive the church. anne thompson, nbc news, assissi. still ahead for us on this friday night, elizabeth smart, a young teenager when she was kidnapped, now a 25-year-old woman. talking to meredith vieira about the tale she hasn't revealed until now. later tonight, tony bennett paying it forward and bringing it to a new generation. it's been more than a decade since elizabeth smart, then 14 years old, was kidnapped and held captive for nine months by a man named brian david mitchell. the case made national news. now in an exclusive interview with nbc for air later tonight, she's opening up for the first time about the details of her ordeal and how she survived it. here with that is meredith vieira. >> reporter: imprisoned for weeks in a remote camp where no one could see or find her, 14-year-old elizabeth smart realized there was only one thing she could do -- stay alive. >> didn't matter what it was or how many things i had always told myself i would never do, i would do them if it it meant i would survive. >> reporter: then one day her kidnapper suddenly unchained her from the steel shackles. why do you think he decided that? >> i think he must have felt like because i was going along with him, because i wasn't fighting as much as i used to -- >> reporter: days later brian david mitchell took elizabeth to the city in a house party. they snapped this photo. it's like your hiding -- >> in plain is sight? it was shocking to have so many people stare at me and not recognize me or not do anything about it. it was hard. it was really, really hard. >> reporter: why didn't she scream out and beg for help? it's a question many have asked. one that never ceases to infuriate elizabeth. >> it's wrong for any person to have judge someone in any situation saying, well, why didn't you run? why didn't you scream? why didn't you try to do something? that is so wrong. frankly, offensive to even ask that question. >> reporter: why do you say that? >> because you don't know. you weren't there. you don't know what i was going through. >> reporter: tell me what it's like. people will wonder. >> you don't understand. i was under threat of my life. i was under threat of my family's life. those two threats right there are stronger than chains for me. >> you can see meredith vieira's special report "elizabeth's story" tonight at 10:00 eastern, 9:00 central on this nbc station. when we come back tonight after a break, why a big name is baseball is taking a swing at baseball. it's been speculated we are watching the end of alex rodriguez's playing days for the yankees, perhaps from baseball as a whole. it looks like either way it'll end ugly. while he's in the middle of appealing his suspension, he has now sued major league baseball for in effect trying to force him from the sport. the yankees didn't make the playoffs so a-rod has been in arbitration, not on the field. he was for a time a deadly enemy of this country in a brutal war that extracted a heavy price on american lives. north vietnamese general bo nguyen giap was believed to be 102 years old. he was a fearsome military commander. his armies defeated first the french and then repelled american forces over a 30-year period. millions fought under the hard line communist and a million men died in his command. in recent years many of the american warriors he faced made the pilgrimage to vietnam to meet the aging general. an electronics company called tweeter suddenly has a lot of investors though it went bankrupt in 2011. it's close enough to twitter to mistake the two. the real twitter, of course, is about to sell stock through an ipo. now some investors have accidentally invested into something else entirely. by the way, we have been digging into the twitter ipo by the numbers. we have it all on the website for you tonight. when we come back, an icon, tony bennett, deciding to give back the best way he knows how. finally tonight, how about a positive end ing after the week we have had. as we get ready to kick off our we have had. as we get ready to kick off our annual education nation summit. at 87 years old and after the career he's had you may i be surprised to hear where the great tony bennett is putting his voice and a lot of his money these days. nbc's harry smith met up with him and his wife at a high school in east l.a. twleez days they are on a mission. ♪ >> reporter: what if every teenager in america attended a school where the arts were valued and celebrated, a place where the arts are not an extra, but an essential. that's what tony bennett dreams of. >> every state of the union deserves it. >> reporter: that's why bennett and his wife susan are at the esteban torres high school in east los angeles. their foundation named exploring the arts has poured millions of dollars into public school arts programs. first in new york, now in l.a. bennett puts his money where his heart is. >> i see it personally as a huge part of his legacy to help facilitate him helping children to become artists like he is. ♪ because i love you >> reporter: at 87, tony bennett has won 17 grammys and sold more than 50 million records worldwide. he's not a particularly familiar figure to most young people. the teachers here made sure the students knew they were being visited by one of the all-time greats. ♪ >> were you nervous at all? >> i was so nervous. i wanted to cry at the end. >> every good performer i know always get butterflies before they go on stage. >> reporter: this is an exceptional school in a challenging environment. crime and poverty surround it, yet the school sings. ♪ >> reporter: the passion in the buildings is palpable. >> yes. >> isn't it great? >> that's success. >> reporter: teachers told us impassioned students get better grades and stay in school. something tony has known since he started the foundation in 1999. >> i'm thrilled about it. what a premise. >> reporter: truth and beauty. >> yep. >> reporter: we can work with that. >> exactly. what could be better? >> reporter: what could be better? harry smith, nbc news, los angeles. >> tony bennett the among the guests this year at education nation. streaming live all the while, educationnation.com. i'll see you for the teacher town hall noon eastern on sunday on msnbc. for us for now, that's our broadcast on a friday night and for this week. thank you for being here with us. i'm brian williams. lester holt will be here with you this weekend. we, of course, hope to see you right back here on monday night. in the meantime, have a good weekend. good night. >> good evening. thanks for joining us on this friday. >> a smoky, windy and treasure russ friday across the bay area tonight. in fact, fire crews battling fires from liver moore to solano county. it's still burning. it's charred more than a thousand acres. we'll show you what it looked like earlier today. despite the wind that's what it looked like earlier. with the wind and everything that fire was effective. that blaze is 70 percent contained. the smoke though is on the move. let's give you a live look where you can see the smoke. we have team coverage for you tonight. chief meteorologist jeff is tracking the conditions. we begin with jodi hernandez with the details on that fire. >> reporter: the good news, this fire is now 70 percent contained tonight. the bad news, it has grown quite a bit. now, more than 1,000 acres have burned. we are standing on the hillside where the flames burned over late this afternoon. in fact, while we were here to watch it. now, we're going to pan over to the right. you can see there is quite a bit of activity. even though the fire is 70 percent contained it did not take much to get this 8 alarm fire up and running. it has put every available fire fighter from this county and beyond in
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0 we've already passed laws legislation got unanimous basically that say, for example, bipartisan support. >> this wasn't a piecemeal that there have to be food opening of the government or picking and chooses can of safety inspections and certain procedures carried out by the agencies we should let release one hostage at a time. fda, you know, for drugs, for this was instead letting furloughed workers have the approval of drugs. the nih research programs. peace of mind knowing they're these should continue. going to get paid once the there's not a funding issue shutdown is over, they get paid here, mara, because the packet of the matter is that speaker he so they can tell those they're working with or owe bills to or will pel has already agreed to their mortgage company, i will the numbers that the republicans want, are at least on a be able to pay this bill. so you know, i think on a temporary basis. you know, to reopen the government. bipartisan basis, all the so i just don't understand why members recognize that's a moral the republican leadership is obligation and the decent thing putting, you know, cancer to do, but it doesn't change the patients, other people who are fundamental predicament we're in research programs, those in. this isn't at the president looking for nutrition programs, alluded a fight between democrats and republicans. this is a fight between head start, veterans, all at republicans and other risk. it doesn't make any sense. republicans, and predominantly there's nothing accomplished by that's a fight within the house. this continued shutdown because we have an ironic situation we've agreed on most things in where a speaker that has been terms of the budget. talking about the hastert rule and we can continue to all year, that being a rule negotiate. but we don't need to have the he'll be governed by a majority government shutdown in the meantime. of the majority party, that is it's like hostage taking. the gop has now moved to a place it's not accomplishing anything on the republican side. where the rule is the minority >> all right, congressman, thanks so much for your time of the majority, the tea party this afternoon. we appreciate it. >> thank you. we want to know how the is really calling the shots in the house. government shutdown is affecting part of that is driven by the you. you can tell us by simply fact that a lot of the nontea sending us a short video party members run in desperate response using the #don't shut fear they'll have a tea party me down. challenge if they support now to the latest on tropical reopening the government. but we need the mainstream gop storm karen as it closes in on the gulf and could make landfall basically to run their own house as early as tonight. tropical storm warnings and and put up this bill and the state of emergency issued for president's right. some states in the path. if we took up a bill to fund the joining me now for the latest on all of this is nbc meteorologist government today, it would have passed overem whenningly. bill karins. >> this week we heard from jam bill, karen weakened overnight. clapper, director of national where do things stand right now? intelligence in a hearing on >> it's trying a little bit to wednesday. let's quickly listen to what he get more rain bands wrapped had to say. >> this is a dreamland for around it. there's too much dry air. foreign intelligence service to this is different image than i recruit, particularly as our normally would show. employees already, many of whom you. subject to furloughs driven by an x-ray of the atmosphere, how much moisture. these are called tropical sequestration are going to having i believe even greater storms. they need humid air. when you see the blue and white, that's the humid air. financial challenges. look at the red, that's the >> do you believe that this shutdown is creating national drier coming off of texas. security issues? this storm is sucking in the dry >> absolutely. air. they can't exist like that. and it's everything from having >> i think it's a terrific destruction. the mayor of wayne has already embarrassment and more than said a couple million dollars that, when the president of the united states can't go on the worth of damage there. trip to asia to meet with some those look like some of the combines there for the fields. of our allies in the region they just tossed a lot of them because he's got to stay here around and some of the buildings because we have a dysfunctional in the background there. you can see how rural of an area government, i mean it really it was. it could have been a lot worse. makes us look ridiculous. and it's so painful to watch just missed the downtown portion of wayne by about two miles. because it's so completely so what else do we have to worry about today? unnecessary. and beyond the impact it's we will see additional storms. thankfully the snow is almost having around the globe on our over with. you still can't drive interstate reputation is the fact that our economy still hasn't fully 90. out toward rapid sti, they had recovered. i'm convinced that if we weren't 31 inches of snow. that's like up to here. going through these every other i've seen pictures an of snow month manmade artificial crises drifts halfway up doors. our economy would have recovered it's like 90 degrees in d.c. today. a long time ago. so americans are paying a real the only other thing is we have to watch out for more storms price. our credibility around the world is paying a real price. today but nothing like the tornadoes from yesterday. our security is impaired. >> all right. meteorologist bill karins, and it's all so completely unnecessary. thanks so much. the white house strategy in >> and when it comes to that, the midst of this government the issue of it being shutdown. what are administration insiders unnecessary, that this could be saying? 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[ man ] i'd be a baker. >> i think you see some of the also in south dakota and in nebraska and iowa, tornadoes caused significant damage to neighborhoods, minor injuries were reported. and along the gulf coast, a sigh of relief for tropical storm karen, a storm that lost much of its steam. meteorologist bill karins is here for the latest on na. what can we expect from karen now? >> karen is the one that gets all the buzz because it's something in the tropics in the gulf of mexico where some of our worst storms in history have been. this one never got its act together. a lot of dry air got into it. these storms need the humid rich air. this is funny. this is the radar. there's not many showers in southern louisiana right now, but the storm is heading for the louisiana coast. it should move in later on tonight and again, you'll see bands of rain and gusty winds. you're not going to see flooding. you're not going to see much wind damage if any. the storm will track from southern louisiana kind of parallel in the coast a little bit. even and mobile, panama city get gusty winds. waves up a little bit at the baeps. we're not talking about anything that would make you significantly change your plans. we showed you the tornadoes. how impressive were thoses? some were a mile wide. thankfully, they missed most towns. i say most because the town of wayne, nebraska, did get hit. they did have a couple injuries there, too. the mayor says over $1 million worth of damage. again, they were concentrated last night. who's at risk today? this afternoon? that's one of the ones that was about a mile wide, that one you saw there. that was one that was weakening as it picked up debris and tossed in the air. that was in the nebraska vicinity. who's at risk today? if you have outdoor plans, really from the midwest from chicagoing to st. louis all the way to indianapolis, a line of strong storms will roll through today. and when that happens, go inside for a quick half hour. the other thing that we have to watch this weekend is the winds, mara, are really strong and gusty. it's very hot in southern california. they're very afraid of any fires. that's the catch, right? if you get the wind situations, if the fires don't form, no big deal. if one forms, we could be talking about mass evacuations and a huge blaze. fingers crossed there. >> keep your eye on the fire condition. bill karins, thanks so much. it's day five and both new development haves today president obama and congress are in the shocking road age in washington today. incident here in new york city. but there's no apparent progress police have just released in ending the government pictures of this man, they shutdown anytime soon. believe slashed the tires of the joining me now, msnbc suv and assaulted the victim contributor and political editor for the grio, perry bacon junior after surrounding and then chasing him through new york and msbc political analyst, city streets. police say they're also investigating whether as many as jonathan alter. six off duty officers were part jonathan i should mention is of the motorcycle club. also the writer of. in the meantime, the man seen using his helmet to break a >> the center holds. obama and his enemies. window of the suv has there's the cover, of course. surrendered and is being make sure you get it. questioned by police. he is not yet being charged. jonathan, i want to start with however, another biker has been you. step back and me your assessment arrested and charged. where we are right now. well, who getsing hurt the does it seem we're any closer to resolution? 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>> it complicates things a little bit. it's just a very small bump in the road. it led john boehner cry some crocodile tears, this is not a game. they have to say this. kind of a kabuki dance in washington where somebody makes a gaffe, which is saying the truth which it is a game. they are playing a very deadly game of poker. and then everybody on both sides has to claim no, it's not really a game. the bottom line here is that it's day five of the john boehner got more than he government shutdown. and new today, within the last bargained for. he's in a very tough position hour, the house passed a measure because if he doesn't figure out making sure 800,000 federal a way out of this, he could lose his speakership. workers on furlough will get this is the most important thing back pay when the government to him. reopens. also today, president obama mara, this is what a lot of giving a new interview about the people i think haven't fully shutdown standoff. specifically the tea party's understood. politics is personal. john boehner was booted out of the republican leadership in 199 role. >> my concern has less to do with the tea party per se or the . it was very humiliating for him. particular positions that they take on issues. his worst nightmare is he can't hold this caucus together and but rather it's this idea that that after the dust settles, if they don't get 100% of their they throw him out of the way, they'll shut down the speakership and humiliate him once more. government or they'll threaten so everything he's doing is to economic chaos. that has to stop. protect his own skin. i wish i could say that he was >> joining me now staff writer acting in a patriotic fashion, for the hill newspaper, elise but he's just not. vee beck and white house it's clear that he went back on reporter for the "washington post" david knack i mora. a couple of deals that he made thank you both for your time in september that would have this afternoon. >> thanks. prevented this. >> david, in his new interview he went back on them because he with the associated press, the president said he would be couldn't hold his caucus, the "happy to talk to republicans white house likes to say john about the health care law, the boehner can't even deliver a budget, the deficit." pizza, and there is some truth this after weeks of firmly to that, he cannot can be stating that he would not negotiate on some things. deliver those republican votes because he has these radicals in so do you think this softened tone is in response to what his party. so we'll see whether he can we've been hearing from republicans that repeatedly finesse all of this. they've been trying to paint the i don't envy him but don't think he's showing real strength and president as unreasonable and character at this moment. immovab >> perry, the house earlier immovable? >> i think there's -- what they're saying there's two today passed a measure to guarantee back pay to furloughed different things going. federal employees. this is a debate about changes to the health care law to make it easier for people to enroll. harry reid actually responded to that saying house republican that debate has to come after republicans had put workers on a the debt limit is raised by october 17th. paid vacation that could cost the white house is still holding firm to the idea they're not more than had sandy did. going to roll the first of hose into the second. and i think what the president workers don't want to be without a paycheck and don't want to be made clear again in that interview even though he says furloughed. where does this legislation go he's open to bigger debates from here? >> it's going to pass in the later is that he's going to stand firm. senate. he suggested in the interview, i was surprised senator reid it was very tell it go he had said that. federal workers are losing pay right now and will get it back. read john boehner's comments in i expect the senate will pass this on monday. private to other members that i think he, while disagreeing he's not willing to let default with the tacticing will happen. it had been reported that the ultimately agree with the strategy. i want to add unwith thing about house wos eventually maybe vote the republicans and boehner. on a bill that required support one challenge they face in their from democrats. i think the president is trying to put pressure on republicans districts, a lot of republican that way. voters are behind the strategy. >> elise is, noa elise, this is i talked to a member yesterday who said the calls to his office were eight to one in favor of this shutdown over of obama care approach. this is a member who thought the piecemeal funding measure. strategy was stupid himself but why is this one different? felt like he was being pushed by >> i would echo what the representative you just his public and his district that interviewed said. it's basically a and to federal the tea party in particular to be behind this. worker are in trouble during the he felt he couldn't say publicly shutdown. this is a bad idea because of both parties came together in the fact that he got a push from order to say listen, we want to the conservatives in his own make sure the shutdown, when it district. >> jonathan, i saw you nodding. stops, doesn't continue to have what's your response? an effect on the people who had >> they created a frankenstein nothing to do with the causes. which is now biting them. so i think that's why they were it's true. i don't think it's the majority able to come together. of republican districts but a we're expecting is the senate to pass the bill very shortly. significant number of them, they've been fed this steady it isn't really a bill to reopen diet from the rush limbaugh and the government in this piecemeal the rest they actually way. what it is is lessening the believe -- ted cruz. effects on federal workers as they actually believe there's a has been done in the past. chance, you know, of defunding nobody wants to see those people hurt because the shutdown had obama care. not only is there not a 1%ence nothing to do with them. >> david, at least 138 lawmakers cha, there's not even a 0% say they plan to donate or chance. it simply is not going to refuse pay during the shutdown. happen. they're living in a dream world. almost half of the 535 members of congress are millionaires. and this is the product of what's happened over the last their net worth is $966,000. compare that to $66,740 for a several years where a minority of a minority is acting as if typical american family and in many cases, even their own staff they can prevent majority rule which is what this country was members don't make that much founded on. money. so does this carry much weight >> all right. jonathan alter, and perry bacon, when they say they're going to donate their salaries, refuse thanks so much for your time this afternoon. them, or does it ring hollow to a new movie on the jfk the public? assassination hit theaters last >> makes a symbolic point. night. but why is this one different the president was asked if he from all the rest? would do so and jay carney said the producer and director of that's not the issue. "parkland." joins us next. across america people are taking charge i don't think it's a surprise money plays a big role in getting people elected. he folks who are wealthy in the government. most federal workers are concerned about what's going to happen. they want to go back to work. it's not like a big vacation to them. to echo what elise said, one thing that this vote does today is it allow sort of lessen the pressure to open the government because they say look, we're going to take care of you afterward. i think what's going to happen, you'll see now this fight over the budget into the debt of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza®. ceiling. we're headed to an october 16th showdown. it's unlikely anything is going for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar, to get resolved despite congress but it didn't get me to my goal. being open right now, potentially negotiating. so i asked my doctor about victoza®. you saw the white house chief of he said victoza® is different than pills. staff on the other day. there are negotiations, there victoza® is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c. are talks, maybe not negotiations, how to get this it's taken once-a-day, any time, and comes in a pen. done. it doesn't look likely anything's going to happen till and the needle is thin. the last minute. the get ready for a long monday victoza® is not for weight loss, but it may help you lose some weight. night. >> elise, your latest article is victoza® is an injectable prescription medicine titled "gop slams scheduled that may improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes maintenance on obama care site." the gop has been seizing on the when used with diet and exercise. it is not recommended as the first medication within site problems as a sign the law isn't working. to treat diabetes is that a fair indicator of and should not be used in people with type 1 diabetes success less than a week of these exchanges being open? or diabetic ketoacidosis. >> certainly the obama victoza® has not been studied administration and i.t. experts with mealtime insulin. would say no. when you're rolling out a new victoza® is not insulin. do not take victoza® if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, website, it needs time to work, time to figure out glitches. multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, the administration said it was because, 8 million people tried or if you are allergic to victoza® to come to healthcare.gov and or any of its ingredients. open accounts this week. symptoms of a serious allergic reaction may include: that's why we saw so many problems. swelling of face, lips, tongue, or throat, fainting what happened yesterday was hhs, the federal health department or dizziness, very rapid heartbeat, problems breathing came out and said they were going to take the application portion of healthcare.gov down or swallowing, severe rash or itching. during nonpeak hours this tell your doctor if you get a lump weekend in order to strengthen or swelling in your neck. serious side effects may happen in people who take victoza®, that part of the website, which has experienced problems in the last week. and john boehner as well as many including inflammation of the pancreas (pancreatitis), of his deputies came out and which may be fatal. said hey, this means obama care is a failure. stop taking victoza® and call your doctor right away the federal health department should not be taking it down. if you have signs of pancreatitis, that's going to mean people such as severe pain don't have acis esto the that will not go away in your abdomen application. or from your abdomen to your back, i think the administration just with or without vomiting. wants to strengthen the website tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and they have six months for this enrollment period. and if you have any medical conditions. we'll see whether those glitches are fixed but i think it's going taking victoza® with a sulfonylurea or insulin to be an ongoing process. may cause low blood sugar. >> all right, elise vieebeck and the most common side effects are nausea, diarrhea, and headache. david, thanks so much for your time. some side effects can lead to dehydration, just how bad will it be if which may cause kidney problems. no deal is reached in the debt if your pill isn't giving you the control you need ceiling crisis in the dire prediction coming up next in office politics. with my friends, we'll do almost anything. ask your doctor about non-insulin victoza®. it's covered by most health plans. out for drinks, eats. i have very well fitting dentures. i like to eat a lot of fruits. love them all. more is better. the seal i get with the super poligrip free that's why we designed the all-new nissan versa note, with more technology, keeps the seeds from getting up underneath. to get you into, and out of, tight spots. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. and more space super poligrip is zinc free. so that you always have your favorite stuff. with just a few dabs, and, just for good measure, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles an incredibly efficient 40 mpg highway. so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. so that when you're doing more, you're spending less. a lot of things going on in my life the all-new nissan versa note. and the last thing i want to be thinking about your door to more. is my dentures. now get a $139 per month lease on a 2014 nissan versa note. 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