just a short time ago cnn s manu raju reported that there would be a republican conference meeting tomorrow morning. that, however, we understand has now changed. i want to go to cnn s melanie zanona at the capitol with the new reporting on that and mccarthy s frame of mind as well. melanie, what have you learned? reporter: well, things have not moved in kevin mckarth chriss direction since that third ballot where he failed to get the votes. it s been back to the drawing board for kevin mccarthy and his allies. we ve seen supporters going into his office. we re told he has been working the phones. he is still hoping to negotiate and not planning to drop out. but meanwhile, i just spoke to a gop lawmaker, this is some breaking news here, this is a lawmaker who texted me, this is someone who supported mccarthy. they said they had just gotten a phone call from one of the never kevin republicans who is trying to grow their opposition and is trying to get that member to flip. so
anderson. melanie zanona, appreciate it. long day for you. joining us cnn s senior political correspondent and inside politics anchor abby phillip, former republican congressman joe walsh, former south carolina congressman mark sanford and howard dean, former national democratic committee chairman. abby, let me start with you. do you think there s a path forward for mccarthy here? if there s a path it s going to be really just a matter of luck and it should be noted kevin mccarthy is actually a lottery winner in his teens. so he is someone who knows a little bit about luck. i think tonight and tomorrow is going to be all about what tricksing pull out of his hat and what kinds of concessions he can come up with. and literally i think at this point, though, for these members, the conservatives, the 20 members who have pushed back against him, they re really in a position now where mccarthy is offering them quite a lot. he s offering them extraordinary power, perhaps unprecedented i