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That we grow in california, hire people who are not here with documents? >> tucker: right. so you are saying that big business doesnt like it? >> yeah. of course. you know, its interesting that now the growers are saying we need to have comprehensive reform. because if you had every farm worker in the state of california -- >> tucker: right, making an american wage and treated like a human being, that would be a disaster for big business. a yes, it would. let me ask you really quickly, when you ...