manchurian candidate. i m sorry, he thinks he s what? he thinks trump is the manchurian candidate, and i will tell you i disagree with that. wow. the man you just heard talking openly and quite candidly on national television. this is the former campaign aide who is refusing a grand jury subpoena to testify. gloria borger conducted that wide-ranging interview. she is joining me live. she s joining me now. my goodness, where to begin. i guess wow, there s a lot to get to. the piece is why is he refusing to appear, right? and he said he said to you it was absolutely ridiculous and ignorant. right. he said that he really there s no reason, that he said everything he needed to say in his five and a half hours of testimony. he didn t want to go back to those e-mails, that he communicates a lot with roger
reason they want you is because they there was something perhaps you told them in your fbi interview that was of some interest to them. no. they want to just pull people in. and you know what? i m not a donald trump fan, as i told you before, okay? he treated me like crap. right. but when i m in there and they ask me to go to the grand jury after i sat there for close to five and a half hours, gloria, i m not going back in. but what was it that you said sam, what was it that you don t you think it might have been because of something you said to them, that they would want you back to testify before the or they would want you to testify before the special counsel? i mean if you think pack back tr five and a half hours with the fbi interviews, what was it that you think made them say we need to get sam nunberg in front of a grand jury? they wanted they probably
get internet on our gig-speed network and add voice and tv for $34.90 more per month. call 1-800-501-6000. as we continue following this breaking news, we just heard how sam nunberg could go to prison for his refusal to respond to the subpoena. there is someone else we can think back to in wirt whitewater. she went to jail for 22 months. most of it on contempt because she wouldn t answer a few questions on bill clinton before a grand jury. she was very motivated, she was very close to clinton. she did this. but that sam nunberg at the end of the day will be happy sitting in a jail cell rather handle the
actually just talked to gloria borger, just talked to him on the phone moments ago and here is what sam nunberg told gloria. sam, thank you for doing this, but it is really surprising news here that you are not going to comply with the subpoena from the special counsel. can you tell us why? because it was absolutely ridiculous. look, they requested from me i was trying to do for the last two days, and what they requested was they wanted every communication that i had with roger stone and steve bannon, who i talked to frequently. they asked for communications with carter page. are you giving me a break? do you think i would ever talk to that moron? so it was only those three people they wanted information on? no, no. also i ll send you the full subpoena. okay. okay. you know what, mr. mueller,
we re as committed today as we ve ever been to the peace process and we re going to continue having those conversations and pushing to get something done. but is he seeing something the rest of us aren t seeing? he sees a lot of things that everybody else isn t seeing but i can t get in any further than that right now. kristen. sarah, i want to ask you about some breaking news that we re just getting. sam nunberg, the president s former campaign aide, is refusing a subpoena by a grand jury. he just said i think he, meaning the president, may have done something during the election but i don t know that for sure. your reaction? well, i definitely think he doesn t know that for sure because he s incorrect. as we ve said many times before, there was no collusion with the trump campaign. anything further on what his actions are, he hasn t worked at the white house, so i certainly can t speak to him or the lack of knowledge that he clearly has. what s your reaction to him not coop