investigation, typically, you know the answer to most of these questions why, because you have reviewed every email, you have talked to scores of witnesses. and so in part, steve, to your point, they want to get him on the record. maybe they ll be surprised by something he says, another reason you talk to people, though, is to learn stuff, but why do you talk to the most important people last? because you already know most of it. so what happens if they don t talk to them. is there a kink in the hose here for mueller? all the time. so some of the cases we prosecute in the federal court of the united states, bank robbers and gun dealers and fraudsters, lots and lots of times people won t talk to us. witnesses will, the folks who saw the bank robbery and the get away car will talk to us, but the bank robber might not, but that s okay. that s not going to stop us from prosecuting. maybe they would have told us the truth, and marry not, but it