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Care contributions from the employees. the battle is over, harold. >> you agree, the real effort on the part of walker was to destroy the unions? you agree with that? >> i think it was both. the long-term problem was the unions power. he solved that. >> the answer is yes? >> the answer is yes to both. >> what do you think? >> i think -- i guess it seems to me is a delusion behind this that the basic problem, with public sector finance is the unions. it just seems to me incorrect. especially the ...

Everyone is trying to figure out what the alternative is to get around the other. weve gotten beyond the fact that theres a simple vote and people were voted to be in office and lead the state. by the way, the democrats leaving, ive got to tell you, i dont agree with governor walker. >> what the republicans were able to do, jim vandehei probably said it best, this was a great use of their power. they used it well. at the end of the day this was a clever political strategy. >> nick kristoff and p...

Be able to unionize because in effect they are on both sides of the bargaining table. >> wouldnt want to be quite as categorical as that but we should have a big burden of suspicion against it. and i lot of cases its led to great waste of money. by the way a great failure of governmental institutions. people on the left who want government to work should be aware one of the reasons government works so much worse today than it did 30 and 40 years ago because of the spread of these work rules. >> ...

>> you would go further, you would argue, i assume that public sector workers should not be able to unionize because in effect they are on both sides of the bargaining table. >> wouldnt want to be quite as categorical as that but we should have a big burden of suspicion against it. and i lot of cases its led to great waste of money. by the way a great failure of governmental institutions. people on the left who want government to work should be aware one of the reasons government works so much w...

End collective bargaining in wisconsin. the unions are playing defense which is not a good place when youre in politics. having said that. the public is beginning to take the other side, 60% are saying you know collective bargaining is a right. i think at the end of the day the governor went a bridge too far and made a big mistake. >> hes being judged on style not substance. the issue is work rules. the example that i used to bring home was going on wisconsin. they have a rural county on the sho...

>> i dont know if you will win or lose in terms of getting his legislation through that will end collective bargaining in wisconsin. the unions are playing defense which is not a good place when youre in politics. having said that. the public is beginning to take the other side, 60% are saying you know collective bargaining is a right. i think at the end of the day the governor went a bridge too par, governor walker, and made a big mistake and is wrong. >> hes being judged on style not substance...

>> well, we anticipated that they would try and get it on the ballot. thats been one of the things theyve been saying all along. and i think it also is one of the reasons why they havent negotiated, they havent made suggestions, they havent given us any input because they just plan on trying to kill it at the ballot box. were not convinced theyll be successful. but the point here is were trying to give management and taxpayers a level playing field to rye and control those costs and also more im...

Employees. scott walker is continuing to allow it over wages, but it costs too much to continue to have to bargain over work rules with these public employees. >> senator, let me ask you specifically. because i know you gentlemen are really, really involved in this and we as journalists are really involved. for the rest of the viewers who arent, what part of collective bargaining is expensive to you? is it seniority, tenure for teachers? whats the thing that actually saves -- its not expensive t...

Disappeared. >> but our manufacturing out put is up. >> bill: but were making it overseas so the people in wisconsin and michigan cant have those jobs. unless they want to move down to guatemala. >> they get new jobs, that comes back for new jobs, for new jobs to be created. >> bill: somewhat. >> in the recession it has been a job creating machine. >> bill: they were in the public service and tech sector, manufacturing is shot. you can make a good claim union labor killed manufacturing in the u....

Disappeared. >> but our manufacturing out put is up. >> bill: but were making it overseas so the people in wisconsin and michigan cant have those jobs. unless they want to move down to guatemala. >> they get new jobs, that comes back for new jobs, for new jobs to be created. >> bill: somewhat. >> in the recession it has been a job creating machine. >> bill: they were in the public service and tech sector, manufacturing is shot. you can make a good claim union labor killed manufacturing in the u....