behind and how they are affected particularly by the lack of electricity is significant. for those people that we interviewed, most of them, before they made it, out spent two weeks hiding in basements and sheltering from this ongoing shelling all around them, just hoping that they wouldn t be injured. and eventually, they would be able to make it out. the most haunting stories that i heard were actually from older people. people with disabilities. for these people, they couldn t make it down to the basements. so they were in their apartment buildings. i spoke to a man in his 80s who was on his sixth floor apartment. another couple who are on the third floor apartment. and for them, there was no way down. and they describe to me how they essentially spent those two weeks sitting on their couch in a room with blown out windows, nothing blocking the cold outside, as you said. it was below zero degrees celsius. and they were sitting there
two weeks hiding in basements and sheltering from this ongoing shelling all around them, just hoping that they wouldn t be injured. and eventually, they would be able to make it out. the most haunting stories that i heard were actually from older people. people with disabilities. for these people, they couldn t make it down to the basements. so they were in their apartment buildings. i spoke to a man in his 80s who was on his sixth floor apartment. another couple who are on the third floor apartment. and for them, there was no way down. and they describe to me how they essentially spent those two weeks sitting on their couch in a room with blown out windows, nothing blocking the cold outside, as you said. it was below zero degrees celsius. and they were sitting there freezing. and they were just watching the
specialized teams and they know what they are doing. but some of the piece of it, i think like he said, the have an enormity of a task, it s daunting. are they themselves at risk for potential for the collapse while they re on site? that was a particular concern early on. it still is, but early on they really had no idea what they were facing and they were going through the bottom through these tunnels because they thought that was the best chance that they would have to find what they call boyd s, which are empty spaces where they might find light. they started at the bottom, drilling through bit by bit taking up the concrete so the rescue workers themselves wouldn t be injured. rescue workers themselvewe did e rescue workers falling down the mountain 25 feet. we re also told no serious injuries. these teams travel with trauma surgeons, in large part to
task is daunting. but are they themselves at risk for potential further collapse while they re on site, on the pile? that was of particular concern early on. it still is, but early on, they really had no idea what they were facing, and they were going through the bottom, through these tunnels because they thought that was the best chance that they would have to find what they called voids, which are empty spaces where they might find life, and so they started at the bottom, drilling through bit by bit, and shoring up the concrete so that the rescue workers themselves wouldn t be injured. we did hear today, which is a frightening thought, of one of the rescue workers kind of falling down the mound 25 feet. we were also told there were no serious injuries, but the teams travel with trauma surgeons, in large part to protect the workers because it is very dangerous, because they don t know if there s going to be a secondary collapse. and when there were those conditions of fire and thund
rescue workers themselves wouldn t be injured. we did hear today, which is a frightening thought, of one of the rescue workers kind of falling down the mound 25 feet. we were also told there were no serious injuries, but the teams travel with trauma surgeons, in large part to protect the workers because it is very dangerous, because they don t know if there s going to be a secondary collapse. and when there were those conditions of fire and thunderstorms and rain and sort of things that could destabilize the pile, that was of extra concern. patricia, miami bureau chief for the new york times has been covering this for the last few days. just an absolutely gut-wrenching story. thanks for giving us some context. thanks for helping us understand. thanks for having me. we have much more ahead here this monday night. stay with us. please please no. i never needed anyone. front desk. yes, hello. i m so. please hold. those days are done.