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>> good morning. good to be with you. >> sandra: what is unfolding on capitol hill this morning? >> you will see a few more transcripts released from some of the secret schiff hearings. obviously the vote last week, the one that kicked off a formal impeachment inquiry not using the traditional method of clinton and nixon. still a one-sided show. the bottom line is they are trying to remove a sitting president for something president trump did in a conversation with president zelensky that neithe...

To ask adam schiff to be their first witness? >> he very well could be. a number of other witnesses our side has laid out. whether or not well get that opportunity we dont know. the process as laid out last week doesnt guarantee us that. still gives schiff the full authority to veto people or nadler if it goes over to his committee. this is again all about a phone call where the two participants on the phone call donald trump and president zelensky both said they appreciated the call and in fact...

Just a short while ago. >> the top diplomat in ukraine? >> thats right. he was the one who said he grew increasingly concerned over the shadow foreign policy being constructed by rudy guiliani and others. right alongside our own philanthropy a foreign policy and undermining of ukraine and global security. remember whats going on. the president very directly withheld aid to ukraine, $391 million worth of aid because he said you have to do us a favor, though, you have to do me a favor, though. he ...

Presidents office for his own political gain instead of diplomacy and peace around the world. >> rudy guiliani told our own dana bash he does not have security clearances yet he was in charge of whats described as this shadow policy. what does that say to you? >> i cannot understand putting him in charge of that in any way. he is a personal attorney to the president. he has other clients and other business interests that could be in serious conflict, certainly would be in serious conflict with a...

Corruption and wrongdoing of added an administration that is out of control that is seeking personal political advantage, is seeking the help of a foreign country to interfere with our elections when we know our past elections have been interfered with by russia, china, and that we are under attack at all times. imagine our very own president is seeking a foreign interference with the upcoming elections for his own gain. my constituents are very upset about this. they want us to be doing the wor...

>> shawn, you served in intelligence agencies for nam of years here. the explicit strategy of this president and his allies to out the whistleblower and question the whistleblowers, you know, fairness in effect here. you know the way this whistleblower law is written so that folks inside the intelligence community like this one can come forward but with an assumption of protection of their identity. how chilling would it be for people who see wrongdoing see a whistleblower like this outed and fa...

The phone call happens well into the summer. what does that tell you, then, about the potential of wrongdoing on this phone call? >> well, factually were not hearing any counternarrative from the white house or from republicans who sat in on these closed door depositions. that is, were not hearing a different story other than there was an ask of the ukranians to start an intelligence investigation or a criminal investigation of american citizens who also happen to be political rivals. so we have...

Immunity. and when there was no interaction with the president and there couldnt even be a coloring book of absolute immunity, it shifted to, were not going to let them come guard because you wont let agency lawyers present. again, that would violate the house deposition rules. it would also violate the practice used by both democrats and republicans for depositions in the past when there are concerns that agency lawyers are representing agencies that may hve engaged in wrongdoing or may use fac...

Of course hes going to say that. what else is he going to say? they need this aid desperately. >> and even if the president hasnt acknowledged wrongdoing, his campaign kind of has. if you look at his ad, they basically try to make something positive out of this, which is, they say, he breaks the rules, but he does it for you, because washington is broken, and, you know, so i think this is the beginning of finally a consistent message from the republicans. >> look, its the president saying, it do...

I think that blows the cover. if that happened. and i dont know. im behind the veil of ignorance. ive seen reports it did happen. i think youve just lost your argument whistleblower quite apart from the legal issue of the whistleblower identity and anonymity goes to that persons ability to go within the organization. within the organization to complain about wrongdoing. >> sandra: a brand-new week, ken starr, thank you for kicking it off with us. appreciate your analysis and perspective. >> bill...