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she's cool on the show. i like all of your opinions. keep tweeting me. shannon bream is up next. shannon has lindsey graham on friday will be a great show, as always. shannon? >> shannon: he spent the day with the president. he will fill us in on that, laura. thank you very much. let's get you caught up on three breaking stories tonight. the inspector general at the justice department is starting an investigation into what republicans contend is bias at the doj and fbi and the russia collision investigation and those fisa warrants. we are learning that president trump has fired his veterans affairs secretary dr. david shulkin. senior north and south korean officials are just launching high-level talks to set up a planned summit in april with president trump. team coverage tonight, tomlinson standing by at the pentagon with why dr. david shulkin was locked up into his -- let's go. we begin tonight with chief national correspondent ed henry following the new pressure on the fbi. good evening. white house dr. ronny jackson to replace the shulkin, a navy rear admiral, a surprise choice to lead this sick government second largest department. he has served as white house physician over the past three administrations. recently jackson has been criticized by some after giving a glowing report on the president's health. >> some people have great genes, i would tell the president that he could love to be 200 years old. >> the president has heart disease. those numbers qualify him to have heart disease. it clearly needs a planted dry and prevent heart problems down the road. >> in a statement, president trump said admiral jackson is highly trained and qualified. one of the first g.o.p. lawmakers to call for shulkin's ouster applauded the move. dr. shulkin came from within the v.a. and did nothing to clean up the culture of bureaucratic incompetence that is to find a leadership at the v.a. i am convinced that only someone from outside the v.a. can clean up the v.a. the president named robert wilkie, the pentagon's undersecretary of defense for personal and readiness, to serve as the acting v.a. secretary until admiral jackson is confirmed. expect senate democrats to put up a fight. shannon? >> shannon: lucas tomlinson from the pentagon. thank you. kim jong un's secretive meeting with chinese president has left many in the u.s. wondering what will happen next. what it could mean for a future meeting with president trump. leland vittert joins us live with more on that. hey. >> good evening, shannon. lots of news but very few answers to the core questions here. when and where does the trump, summit take place, one with the ground rules, and what does the north koreans really want for their nukes? one thing is sure. the chinese made it clear with this visit that they play a front and center wall when it comes to dealing with the kim regime. the president paid respect to his chinese counterpart to that effect today tweeting, "received a message last night from xi jingping of china that he had a meeting with him drunk on and it went very well and kim looks forward to his meeting with me. in the meantime, and unfortunately, maximum sanctions and pressure must be maintained at all costs." despite their freeze on my cell a nuclear custom of the north koreans appear to be moving forward at all costs and a breakneck speed with her nuclear program. no photo show another reactor, the north claims that is for peaceful electric generation. intelligence reports it is also capable of throwing off plutonium for more bombs. if the white house or u.s. intelligence community knew about the chinese summit, they didn't say anything, nor did they seem particularly surprised. the chinese official state media it reiterated the offer by kim jong un of face-to-face with president trump. >> certainly, we are going to be cautiously optimistic, but we feel like things are moving in the right direction, and that the meeting yesterday was a good indication that the maximum pressure campaign has been working. you saw him leave for the first president trump and as yet undisclosed location. he is also rumored to be considering a sit down with russians vladimir putin, while one of its doctor's critics, japanese prime minister shinzo abe says he is ready for a meeting too. what is drawing him out of hermit kingdom all of a set on? let's talk about it with a republican senator from south carolina lindsey graham, a member of the senate armed committee. >> that is a stunning overview. if you told me a year ago that the north korean leader would be meeting with president trump, potentially there russians and the japanese, i wouldn't believe it, and hats off to president trump and his team for making this a reality. maximum pressure has worked. >> shannon: let's talk about china. i read an account today that said for six years, he's been pushing china to have an official meeting with him. they weren't interested, and never happen, they held him at arm's length. as soon as it's becoming apparent that he will meet with president trump, china says, hey, come for a visit. they obviously have different interests in the region that we do. there are some similar but there are differences. a piece says that "beijing is concerned with any concessions that north korea might make toward the u.s. in exchange for u.s. security guarantee or a settlement that could lead to the unification of the korean peninsula by absorption and the emergence of a unified korea as an american military ally on china's border" >> i think that's a pretty good analysis of what they fear. here was with a hope. they hope that north korea will stop being a pain in the rear for them. the north korean nuclear program destabilizes the entire world. i hope that kim jong un was told by the chinese president, we stand with america. you need to give up your nukes. i would tell her chinese, our goal is not to reunify south korea and north korea. i would tell them that north korea needs to give up their nuclear weapons to protect the world at large. help us there. >> shannon: do you think it will? the messages were relayed after their meetings that they are open to denuclearizing the peninsula, plenty of skeptics who aren't buying math or wonder what kind of agreement we can gr as rigorous, legitimate inspection. >> we have seen this movie before. in 1994, they gave up their nuclear program for food. they took the food and kept their nukes. the one thing i would tell china and north korea, the worst mistake you can make is meet with president trump personally, have a discussion about what to do, and try to play him. if that happens, that's the end of north korea. i met with the president today. he doesn't want a wife. he is hopeful that this can resolve in ending the north korea nuclear threat, stabilizing that part of the world. i think he is ready to go big. the korean war is still -- it's never been ended been ended. >> shannon: technically. >> but i would like to see happen as a peace treaty between south korea, north korea, china, the united states. north korea would give up their weapons. japan and south korea doesn't have them. we'll give them insurance that we won't need north korea, we'll tell the chinese we are not trying to unify the korean peninsula, but we are insisting that kim jong un give up his nuclear program. there is a chance for a deal. this is the last, best chance to avoid a war. the worst thing that can happen is that the north korea tries to play donald trump. >> shannon: you said that the damage from a war with north korea would be worth it in terms of long-term stability and national security. that scares a lot of people. >> i don't want to minimize the damage would be great. worth it. it's all about bad choices. if there is a war between north korea and us, south korea and japan will get hit, hit hard. thousands of people could die. that is not lost upon me. but if we allow them to get an icbm, they can hit america with a nuclear tipped missile. the names of americans are at risk and he will sell anything he develops. he sold to syria, tried to help iraq. so north korea proliferates nuclear materials. so you got to go bad choices. to me, it is worth it to stop him from getting a big nuclear arsenal because he will give it our selected people who would use it if he would not to. >> shannon: let's talk about russia. interesting because the president took the steps obviously in tandem with a number of european allies to expel a number of russian personality, intelligence officers, and response to this poisoning on british soil that russians are now saying the u.k. did had made it look like the russians did it. i am no security expert or professional envoys and so i won't comment on that. a couple of people stepping up in the mainstream media to praise the president, david singer from "the new york times" saying ," "it's getting harder to make the argument that the president has not gotten tough with putin. "the daily beast" income of this is big, it deserves credit. >> 50 diplomats plus spies. the best thing that they can do is unite the world against russia's aggression, not just be the united states versus russia come but the entire world. look at what happened when we decided to expel russian diplomats and spies sprayed the entire world followed president trump. the best thing he can do in my view at home and abroad is to tell putin, i don't want to be your enemy but you are making me be your enemy and if you continue to disrupt the world, invade your neighbor, assassinate people, in foreign countries, then you were going to pay a price. if china -- excuse me, in france and germany would get behind trump's efforts to change business practices and trying to come i guess what, china would stop cheating if they had to pay a price. putin would stop us dropping the world if he paid a price. i can tell you this. putin will respond to weakness, aggression, he will respond to strength by backing off on president trump i've got a moment in time here to really make putin pay a price. his economy is the size of italy. >> shannon: 15 seconds. he spent 90 minutes with the president. how did he seem? there's a lot of new swirling around him, much of it not positive. >> very, very focused, very upbeat. it feels like he's doing a good job. we have some historic moments coming in may when north korea and iran, tax cuts are working, the president was very upbeat and quite frankly, i think he's done a very good job as commander in chief. >> shannon: senator graham, always good to have you with us. thanks. the polish government signing off on a huge deal to buy the u.s. patriot to missile defense system. for nearly $5 billion. it is the largest arms procurement deal and poland's history and is also a major step in modernizing their forces, which analysts they do not sit well with the kremlin. the u.s. economy looks to be on stable footing. in the final quarter of 2017, marked the third quarter in a row with gdp close to or exceeding 3%. the pace that the drop administration set as a target. gross domestic product measures the value of every item produced in every service rendered in the u.s. president trump will buzz at northeast toast ohio tomorrow afternoon to present his proposed $1.5 trillion program to rebuild the country's aging infrastructure. economists argue that it won't add to the u.s. economy. the white house council of economic advisors says the plan will give a significant boost to the gdp over the next ten years, adding up to 400,000 new jobs. they are calling it a boomerang effect. what began as surveillance of a trump campaign turning into an investigation of the alleged fisa abuse by the fbi under the obama administration. what it all means for the special counsel probe next. plus no developments tonight on a breaking story. a new trump administration proposal aimed at making sure immigrants don't become dependent on government benefits if they want to attain legal status. also on tap, marching for our lives to marching for life. another group of students is trying to organize a nationwide school walkout. we look at the same kind of support? portion of the ball being built, adding, "great briefing this afternoon on the start of our southern border wall." it becomes following are part of the drop administration seeking to her restrictive legal status for immigrants who rely on tax credits and government welfare programs. let's talk about with tonight's panel. radio host ethan berman. fox news contributor lisa boothe. the federalists mollie hemingway, also a fox news contributor. good to see you all tonight. >> hi, shannon. >> shannon: tell me more about this. this is what the dhs spokeswoman said. this is their proposal, apparently they say nothing is finalized yet. once it is approved, it will be released, have a comment. matt, the whole 9 yards. this is what she said. "the administration is committed to enforcing existing immigration law which is clearly intended to protect the the amn taxpayer." mollie, they say this is a tackn attack on people who are trying to gain legal status. because this gets at the heart of the debate about kind of immigration should have. some people say should be random and lottery based on some people are pushing for a move to the more australian or canadian style where it's self-sufficiency playing a role. it doesn't play a role for people who have special needs or our refugee status or particular persecution. at in general, a lot of immigrants are coming to this country, american citizens are looking for people who can be self-sufficient and can contribute to the economy. a lot of immigrants do. this is a test to make sure that this is working out for current american citizens. >> shannon: reacting to this, the statement from dnc chair tom perez, "it's another heartless attack on immigrants. donald trump should spend less time finding ways to punish hardworking families and more time standing up to the values of inclusion of opportunity that make america great." your response, lisa? >> i think mollie is right. this is consistent with what we have seen from the sweat has, a illegal immigration, that looks at what mollie discussed, and merit-based immigration approach, and something that president trump pushed for as well when he laid out what he would ideally like to see congress and address on the daca issue. also, i think this is very consistent with what we have seen from president trump wanting to bring people into this country that would benefit more economically, maybe not take as much public assistance. it would bring some sort of skill set to the workforce. >> shannon: ethan, the dhs says it's about making sure that u.s. tax to taxpayers are treated treated fairly. >> of course we want u.s. taxpayers to be treated fairly. the 1996 offer act and the immigration act of 1996 already addressed this issue. this is a very marginal number of people come illegal immigrants already over abundantly contribute to our economy. there are greater number of small business owners that need a foreign spy they work at a higher percentage than native-born's. they are higher education levels, they actually earn more than native-born americans. this is just meat to the base because it is such a tiny percentage of people that we are talking about. it is not billions of dollars that are being abused or wasted right now. >> shannon: okay. i want to make sure that this next topic, i get all three of you in. keep your interest relatively brief. ethan, i'll start with you. today the inspector general said he will look into these allegations about whether the fisa warrants were abused, whether the doj and fbi under the obama administration was fair and complied with the law. >> i think any time that there is an objective investigation by an inspector general, that is something we all need. we need to know that the process works. however, it sure seems to be a right-wing move that seems to think of the deep state is so embedded that the fbi is not able to function. we have a couple of bad apples who were caught red-handed and were removed from the process. but really, we have the new paul manafort connection to the russian intelligence and that is not what we are talking about. >> shannon: lisa? >> there are also bad actors that were helping to lead these investigations, that is where the concern boils down to. i do think to ethan's point, michael horowitz will be deemed as a more objective investigator. however he doesn't have the prosecutorial authority, which is why people like chairman county, members of the senate, calling for a second special counsel. >> shannon: mollie come as a top democrat on the judiciary committee saying it's a conspiracy theory that's been deprived and it's a waste of time and money. >> in the last year, you had committees on both sides of the senate and house looking into russian meddling, the inspector general looking into hillary clinton email probe. what everybody sits down, it's a violation of processes and serious problems of the department of justice and fbi. you've had at least six, seven, eight people who were fired, demoted, moved around because of these problems. you have very serious issues with fisa abuse. these are secret courts, you can it's incumbent upon our government to make sure we are handling the surveillance authority well. we do need to restore the credibility of our federal law enforcement. this ig is a good step, a small step, though, because they can't compel testimony from people who have left fbi or doj. it also doesn't deal with the problems that we found that state, cia, and other places. we'll need a special prosecutor just so everyone can trust the fbi and doj. >> shannon: the calls for those continue. panel, what you were fabulous. stick around, we have more hot topics for you and just a minute. thank you. in the meantime, amazon founder jeff bezos is reportedly the richest man in the world but his network took a serious tumble today all because he's reportedly made one very powerful enemy. plus the news stories are so unbelievable, we have to remind you they are legit. the real news roundup coming up. ♪ eal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, ... with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. tell your doctor if these occur. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. other side effects include upper respiratory tract infection and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ♪ otezla. show more of you. >> shannon: in the wake of anti-gun student walkout, the california teacher was suspended for asking whether pro-life protesters could do the same thing. she wound up suspended. one of her students is fighting back. trace gallagher has all the details from the west coast. hey. >> i might come as we prepare the nationwide pro-life walkout is specifically meant to imitate protest except the goal this time is too shy to a bright light on the lives destroyed by. the event will also test if there's a double standard when it comes to allowing students to protest things that take lives. the walkout is being organized by 17-year-old brandon gillespie. a junior at rockland high school outside of sacramento. gillespie says he wants to honor the lives of aborted babies, raise awareness of what he calls the injustices of planned parenthood, and to protest the suspension of his history teacher, who was placed on leave when she brought up the double standard. here's the teacher. >> i open up the discussion for if schools, not only just our school and administration, but across the country, are going to allow one group of students to get up during class and walkout to protest one issue, would they still give the same courtesy to another group of students who wanted to get up and walk out to protest? i use the example of abortion. >> she's back teaching now and says the upcoming pro-life walkout will literally answer the double standard question. the event is now set for april 11th, and the students are asking for the very same 17 minutes given to students who protested gun violence. it remains unclear how schools across the country will respond. in the meantime, were getting a better idea of who participated in the march for our lives against gun violence. apparently, it wasn't mostly young people. a sociology professor at the university of maryland at her six person research team randomly surveyed hundreds of people who joined in the march and found 70% were women and quoting all the about 10% of the participants were under 18. the average age of the adults of the crowd was just under 49 years old. she also says 27% of the participants had never protested before and most of the new protesters were not motivated by gun-control but rather, by issues of peace. and of president trump. shannon. >> shannon: all right, trace. very interesting. thank you. tonight, the aclu is urging greyhounds not to let i.c.e. agents searches buses for illegal immigrants without a warrant. meanwhile, the acl use efforts against law enforcement and may have had unintended consequences. researchers are blaming tougher rules on police officers for chicago's huge spike in homicides. they are calling it the aclu effect. the aclu calling it junk science. senior correspondent mike tobin takes a look at the evidence from chicago tonight. >> the aclu is to blame for chicago's 2016 increase in violent crimes, that according to a new study from the university of utah. >> we have a collection of data that come together to make it clear that causation exists here. >> the study concludes that burdens placed on the city's police force have taken their toll. protest erupted in 2015 in response to a video of black teenager look juan mcdonald bank shot to 16 times by a chicago police officer. in the aftermath, the aide don't mock the aclu chicago police reach an agreement to address accusations of racial profiling. police officers were required to fill out elaborate cards after stop and frisk spray to take 15 to 20 minutes to complete. as a result, stops dropped by 82% in 2016. homicides jumped by 58%. chicago endured an additional 1100 gun crimes. the study examined other factors, from anger on the streets, to the opioid epidemic. it concluded that the aclu effect of the anomaly and cops are discouraged from checking suspicious people for weapons. >> criminals on the streets of chicago became emboldened to carry guns. the deterrent effect decreased. when there were more guns on the street, being carried by criminals, the predictable result is an increase in gun related crimes. >> the spike in blood shed is is undeniable. that and enhanced scrutiny of the police frequently gets attention from the president to. >> what the hell is going on in chicago? >> and aclu lawyer says you can't just look at the chronology and blame the contact cards. >> it make to makes claims thate thing caused another. >> the aclu claims that most of the entries on my contact cards are required by the chicago pd, not their organization. representatives challenge the objectivity of the researchers, who also authored a study in 2017 reaching the conclusion that miranda requirements for police effectiveness. shannon, back to you. ♪ >> shannon: time for a quick round up the of the real news out there. that was often derided by the mainstream media for being weak on russia or even colluding with president vladimir putin to influence the 2016 election, "the new york times" is crediting president trump with getting tough on russia after expelling 60 russian diplomats earlier this week. david sanger is the chief washington correspondent. >> he is getting harder to makee argument that the president has not got in touch with putin. this is certainly a tougher move, for example, then president obama took when he expelled 30 some odd diplomats after the election issue. >> shannon: president trump getting tough on portraits of government officials. 1 of 3 bills signed into law yesterday, eliminating government-funded oil painting act bars the use of taxpayer funds for partners of federal workers, like former epa administrator lisa jackson, former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld, and more. some of these portraits cost taxpayers $40,000 each. pennsylvania high school has a rifle team with equipment more than 40 years old. that is not the only problem facing the mountaineers. the school board if they are voted monday night to reject a $5,000 grant from the national rifle association meant to help them buy new gear and guns. the team put together a gofundme site with an appeal for help that says, "let's put our political ideology aside and come together as a community in support of our rifle team." the night they nearly doubled their original goal after abouta dozen local businesses got together and decided to help fund the team. classic '90s tv show made its most anticipated return. as "roseanne" really representing trump voters? 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>> he talked about jobs, jackie. he said he'd shake things up. this might come as a shock to you but we almost lost our house the way things are going. >> have you looked at the news? now things are worse. >> not on the real news. >> police! >> shannon: "roseanne"'s debut scoring massive ratings in cities like new york and middle america, dominating states are president trump won like ohio. there is a debate about why. let's talk about it with the panel. i thought it was interesting, guys, it had monster ratings but not everybody agreed it was necessarily a good thing for conservatives because roseanne's character supports trump. ben shapiro writing, "there is something else going on in "roseanne" that should disturb conservatives. the redefinition of trump supporters as blue-collar leftists rather than conservatives. the implication is that she's a good person because of ease-of-use but the real difference between trump voters and hillary voters are economic in nature, not cultural." lisa, what you make of that? >> i don't want to get into an argument with venture. because he's a smart guy. i also think that -- if you look at the trump coalition, it is sort of a hodgepodge of individuals in this country. i think that he certainly have people like roseanne barr, a trump supporter in real life, also an executive producer of this show that may be a little bit more socially liberal but voted on him for the economic issues. i also think you additionally have people that went for president trump because of these cultural wars. again, president trump sort of has this broad, hodgepodge of a coalition. i see a point, i think it's a smart point, but i don't 100% agree with the point he's making. >> shannon: ethan, what you make the monster ratings last night? >> i say congratulations to the show, the cast, i think they did a great job. i'm not the biggest fan but i will tell you something, ben shapiro is totally wrong on this one. it's about love, it's not about hate. that is what "roseanne" is preaching and what she's been doing for many, many years. she led the way both the advocate and have come out in support of "roseanne," not just the show -- but 24 years ago, but it was a groundbreaker in terms of the first kiss between two women on tv. that is a big deal for a lot of people because especially in light of for the president has been doing with some of the anti-lgbt moves, "roseanne" shows that you can love and support trump at the same time. >> shannon: i think that is ben's concern. it portrays trump voters as being ones who care about the economy but not the cultural issues. he doesn't think that's the case. we'll see. we love having been on. we want to make sure we get to our second topic. we'll start with you, mollie. a young student in california said he will do a pro-life walkout april 11th is the time mandate for that. he wants to test a couple of things. he says, along with being a movement commemorating the millions of children who are victims to abortion, the movement stands for all students rights to freedom of speech and assembly. he wants to test this theory about whether it will get the same kind of support that the anti-gun rally dead. >> it's interesting that the study came out showing that the people at this weekends barge, the average age was 50 and there weren't many children there. if you go to the march for life, held annually in d.c., also in the state capitals and other cities throughout the country, you are blown away by how many young people are there. high school students and younger. it's an issue, and he destruction of human life in the womb and violence in the womb and how that hurts women and their children is an issue that young people care deeply about and it is something that maybe have not done a very good job covering. it's a really interesting question to ask, whether schools will be supportive of this as they wear, actively colluding and trying to push this antigun rights march that they did. >> shannon: ethan, the student directly was a student of the teacher got suspended in california for asking this and having this conversation in her class. do you think that the two topics will be treated the same? what do you of this plan? >> i always support people to exercise their first amendment rights. there is a significant difference between an already existing march for life and antiabortion rally that goes on. into reaction by a lot of people -- by the way, i was at the march for our lives with my two children, while under the age of 50, i think we saw a lot of young people there. i don't think that study was somewhat nonscientific in d.c. only. but the point is, the kids in parkland at around the country are worried about the violence that took place at marjory stoneman douglas high school. abortions are not happening in high school classrooms. these are different topics and there are separate marches for that. >> shannon: we got to leave it there. we are out of time. thank you all. we'll see what happens. thanks, guys. facebook under fire. amazon stocks plummeting as a third news technology raises eyebrows with a controversial equipment. breaking on the tech headlines next. you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. 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>> it's definitely interesting to see, that's exactly what the reporting shows. really, the president, he is a 1950s man. he's a businessman before he was president. he kind of was nostalgic for the days that it used to be. and he is starting to see -- talking to steve's point, he thinks there's a lot of power in the hands of these text companies, and amazon in particular for its e-commerce aspect and what it's doing to mom-and-pop stores and other retailers that he sees it as a big threat to some of those smaller businesses. he's looking at perhaps taking some action. press secretary sarah sanders said there is nothing in the works right now but from what the sources have told axios is that he really is looking at antitrust regulations and some other tax treatment that they might be abusing. >> shannon: another tech company that has revolutionized the way we get entertainment, netflix has announced susan rice, former ambassador, former nsa under the obama administration, will join their board. a quick reaction for both of you. steve, first to you. >> i think there is nothing to be upset about except the fact that it is so typical, isn't it? people who serve in government and then basically cash in on their public service and get who burned up by these big companies. as happened forever, it is part of the swamp. that is the real story here rather than the politics of netflix. it's all about the swamp. this is how they work. >> shannon: alayna, there's been backlash and threats of a boycott because of the ambassador's role in the benghazi fiasco. how do you feel that plays out? >> a lot of people, on twitter and other forms of social media, say they will boycott netflix for putting susan rice on the board. we saw similar things happen when there was buzz that barack obama and michelle obama might also have a netflix series on netflix. so a lot of people believed, just like steve's point, it is the swamp coming to these big media outlets. a lot of people don't like that cross over from the political world in washington into some of the more tech companies and media companies that they see as their entertainment and ways of escaping all of that. >> shannon: a tough day for many in the text companies. a tough week in the markets. we'll see how they fare tomorrow with the next news cycle. stephen alayna, great to have both of you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: so many of you have reached out in the last few days after i put out a twitter plea for a young boy he was very ill and had one last wish. we've got an update for you right after the break. ♪ w pneumococcal pneumonia is a potentially serious bacterial lung disease that in severe cases can lead to hospitalization. it may hit quickly, without warning, causing you to miss out on the things you enjoy most. prevnar 13® is not a treatment for pneumococcal pneumonia... it's a vaccine you can get to help protect against it. prevnar 13® is approved for adults to help prevent infections from 13 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. you should not receive prevnar 13® if you have had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients. if you have a weakened immune system, you may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects were pain, redness and swelling at the injection site, limited arm movement, fatigue, headache, muscle pain, joint pain, less appetite, vomiting, fever, chills, and rash. help protect yourself against pneumococcal pneumonia. ask your doctor or pharmacist about prevnar 13®. ♪ directv now gives you more for your thing. your letting go thing. your sorry not sorry thing. your out with the old in with the new, onto bigger and better thing. get the live tv you love. no bulky hardware. no satellite. no annual contract. try directv now for $10/mo for 3 months. more for your thing. that's our thing. visit directvnow dot com i lost a twitter campaign after getting the request from emilio's uncle. thanks to your tens of thousands of retweets, videos personalized for emilio poured in. today one of them was set to call him at the hospital but the 11-year-old cancer fighter did not make it. emilio's family started a foundation to help others. emilio wrote a book last year, and all the proceeds will help fund the foundation. if you want to help go to genesfoundation.com. emilio proved that social media can be an enormous force for good. strangers will often care and have compassion even when it will benefit them in no way. we have seen that happen over and over again since sunday.

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A look at the latest news and headlines of the day features discussions of politics and culture, analysis of political correctness in Campus Craziness and... will portray the gang is a bunch of cute teenagers who ride bike bikes, listen to music and work after-school jobs. >> when you think of the street gang ms-13 what do youme see? may be something like this. or this. i told you that typical ms-13 gang member in the u.s. actually looks like one of these young men on facebook. >> they're working after-school jobs, their living with their parents, they get around long island onon bicycles. >> there is no indication that we are seeing a bigger surge of ms-13 then we have seen in the past. >> mark: ms-13 they are like high school valedictorians. he joins us, tim these guys are all over your neck of the woods. are they just like kids doing A look at the latest news and headlines of the day features discussions of politics and culture, analysis of political correctness in Campus Craziness and... it minimizes the situation that these communities find themselves in. ms-13 targets young, hispanic boys in neighborhoods that are underserved. it's incredibly important that we target these gang members with aggressive law enforcement tactics and that we also invest in gang prevention and intervention strategies so we prevent them from recruiting more members. >> mark: good luck with that. they have done some terrible things out in your part of long island, tim. thanks very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> mark: america remains in the grips of an immigration crisis and other aspects, too. in one of the two major parties, increasingly promoting policies indistinguishable from global open borders. any effort to enforce theis country's border invites accusations of racism, even though mexico is actually deporting more people who come from honduras than the united states does. earlier this week, we saw the border patrol capture a man attempting to smuggle three brazilians into the country using a fake ems vehicle. enrique acevedo is an anchor at univision and he joins us now. enrique, this is interesting to me that mexico is allowed to deport hondurans without being accused of racism, while the u.s. isn't. why does one country get to enforce its borders, but another doesn't? >> you just got to look at news reports in mexico and around central america to know thatt mexico's immigration policy is highly criticized, the way they violate human rights for the central americans is also highly criticized. it has been pointed out by, i would say, hundreds of news reports and human rights reports, too.ew i don't think they are being able to get away with anything. i would just say that, despite what many people say on this network and at the white house, in terms of mexico not doing anything to help the u.s. with undocumented immigration, you just stated the fact that mexicn is importing hondurans and other central americans at a very fast pace, over 200,000 centralth american migrants have been deported. that's a lot. >> mark: mexico is notha deporting 200,000 hondurans to kiss up to president trump. it is doing it in its own national interest. so -- >> this is the thing, mark. they are doing it in the program and agreement between the u.s. and mexico to have mexico guard its south borders with u.s.en dollars. some of that comes from the u.s., so it is doing it in part to honor agreements with the u.s. in the u.s. government. >> mark: that is not why -- we all know the truth, or most people should know the truth about mexico, which is that it is ruled by a corrupt elite who are essentially european mexicans, mexicans of white european descent, who treat everybody else, whether they are mexican or not, appallingly. >> mark: it's predicted that 30% of the world's jobs are going to be outmoded by automation and robots, no developed countries needed mass immigration. as you say, we'll have that one day. thank you, enrique. thanks a lot. house minority leader nancy pelosi says that voters should back democrats in november because it will help illegal immigrants, so vote for your democrat candidate and they will let lots of people in the country to take your jobs. >> we are not going to be able to get it done under the republican leadership in congress. we believe that we all have leverage when we win in november. >> mark: leverage in november. that is intended to appeal to hispanic voters but it may not be working. polls have shown president trump's approval with hispanics to be above 30%. that is better than the vote share he got in 2016.e gave us were crumbs called the daca executive order.he and i want -- i think that we should really point out, and these are facts, this is notou analysis, that in 1996, president clinton signed something called the immigration reform law, which gave the legal framework for president trump to be separating families. so let me just start with those two facts, that is why president obama and nancy pelosi are traitors to hispanics. now why are hispanics now giving approval ratings? because hispanics share many of the core values that are dear to the republicans. we are god-fearing, law-abiding, we like small government, we are self-reliant, we do not want government in our lives, we fear god and we want -- we love this country. and -- >> mark: let me just ask you a question on that, though, elvira. because the people can have but also, the economy.tr look at what is happening with the economy right now. that is benefiting more hispanic businesses.od >> mark: that is certainly true. we have to leave it there, elvira. thanks very much. good luck in your race. friction between the mueller team and president trump's legal team is heating up. professor alan dershowitz will address the president's position next on "tucker carlson tonight." ♪ ♪ coming, flo! why aren't we taking roads?! flo. 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>> it won't happen. i think what's going to happen is giuliani will make mueller an offer he can't accept, to paraphrase "the godfather," and that way trump will be able to say, look, i wanted to testify but it was mueller who turned down a reasonable request by our attorney. look, no lawyer would ever allow a client to testify under these circumstances. all they have to do is ask him one question, "did you know about the meeting in the trump tower with your son," if he answers that question truthfully, that he didn't known if that in fact is the truth, he could still be charged with perjury, lying to a government official because we have michael cohen who says he did know. you you never allow your client to see something that can be contradicted by another witness because the prosecution can choose to believe that other witness. >> mark: if you had i president trump as a client, though, he's a very gregarious guy who was quite happy to sit w down and talk and to chit-chat to anybody and thinks that as long as he is just, like, straight forward and says what he thinks, everything will be fine. often, from a lawyer's point of view, that is the worst kind of client to have, isn't it? >> yes. and i would certainly -- i'm not his lawyer, obviously -- but i would advise him to speak to the public on television, say what he wants to say, write his tweets, although i don't think he helps himself by some of his tweets. but under no circumstances put yourself in a position where you can be charged with perjury or lying to a federal official. and if he doesn't believe me, he should make two phone calls, one to martha stewart, who went to jail because of what she said after prosecutors, and the other to bill clinton, who was impeached because of what he said in an interview under oath. and so i think every responsible lawyer would say to him, youvi should not either testify or be interviewed. look, i once gave him advice on television, i said, i have four pieces of advice, don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify. >> mark: i want to ask you about rudy's other point, the hyperpartisan nature of what has been happening. with reference to this bruce ohr guy in the justice department, and his 60 contacts at least with christopher steele, the mi6 agent who was basically the dirty tricks operative for the democratic party. you know as well as i do that impartiality is the essence of justice, a county court judge can't have a bunch of communications with the plaintiff and not with the defendant. that is a big no-no. how come bruce ohr at the department of justice doesn't know you can't talk to one political party continuously through the height of a campaign? >> of course, there is a difference between a judge in a prosecutor.rece prosecutors are allowed to talk to people, and so i don't believe that mueller and his team care about whether the democrats win or the republicans win. they are not partisan in that sense. i think they are zealous, some would say overzealous prosecutors. because he is special counsel, he has a target on the back of the president and others. c if this case were handled by ordinary u.s. attorneys, and they came back after a year or two years without indicting anybody, it wouldn't be a story, no one would know. but when a special counsel is given a target and he fails to indict, he has been a failure, and that is why i am so strongly opposed to a special counsel, except of the most extraordinary circumstances, which weren't met in this case. >> mark: you're absolutely right about that, professor, in terms of the special counsel's office. i hope we get rid of them. thanks a lot. as a young self identified socialist, alexandria ocasio-cortez supposedly represents the future of the p democratic party. it's a strange future to behold. >> we need to occupy every airport, we need to occupy every border, we need to occupy everyw i.c.e. office. we look at figures and say, unemployment is low, everything is fine, right? well, unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs. why aren't we incorporating the cost of the funeral expenses of those who die because they can't afford access to health care? this, like, upper-middle-class is probably more moderate but that upper-middle-class doesn't exist anymore. their heyday was in the '90s when, like, kids had furbies ana parents, soccer moms with two vans. that is not america anymore. >> mark: soccer moms with two vans and funeral expenses crippling the economy. is this the sort of thing the democrats can run on, win on, and, god help us, govern on? christy setzer is the president of new heights communications and she joins us. this is the future of the party? >> look, i like ocasio-cortez. i think she speaks clearly, i think she speaks with moral conviction, and i think a lot of people were inspired by her and that is why she won her primary. that said, she won a primary a month ago in a congressional contest that represents the bronx and queens. this is not necessarily america. that said, i will say thaton people like her because she is this young latina woman who seemingly came out of nowhere, nobody gave her a chance, she had no endorsements, nobody in the party really got behind her, "the new york times" never even wrote a piece about her until after she won, and then it was, "where did this lady come from?" the reasons she did so well, and was able to topple somebody like joe crowley, is because of the way that she talked about issues that people cared about in her district. >> mark: isn't it more basic than that? you said because she is a young latina. and the democrats now, it's all about identity politics. she is a young latina, he's an old white male. he's the past, she is the future, and the fact that she talks about the 1990s like ith talk about the 1890s, and that she seriously thinks that if 50% of the workforce are doing two jobs, you have full employment, that is irrelevant. it is all identity. young latina trumps dead white male. >> no, i don't think so.wh but i do think for women in particular, also people of color are the ones who are furious right now, they are furious at c donald trump, they are furious at the -- i'll be honest -- the old white men who are running the republican party right now and frankly, who have a pretty big grip on the democratic party, as well. so that is why you have seen so many women across the country who have said, you know what, it is my turn, i'm going to run for office now, too. and they are winning in record numbers. s so particularly so particularly in the democratic side, mark, if you see a race in which there is not an incumbent, there is a man, a woman running, women on the democratic side are winning 70% of the time. that is amazing. what that says, america wants to see more women in office, and i -- >> mark: good luck telling that to bernie and chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, because you've got your old white issues in that party, too.hu >> we sure do. it's a big tent. >> mark: nancy pelosi is happy to take a tire iron to anyone who argues with that. thank you, christy. what on earth was going on in the new mexico compound where muslim extremists were allegedly performing exorcisms and training school shooters? 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"tucker carlson tonight" investigates. ryan mauro is director of the intelligence network at the clarion project.an a nonprofit that educates the public on radical islam. he has assisted authorities in this investigation and he joins us now. ryan, if you watch certain other networks, you'll find it very hard to pick up on the muslim angle to this. they are being rather coy about it, as is their wont. but the father of the principal guy here, for example, is a big shot imam who was an unindicted coconspirator in the original world trade center bombing a quarter century ago. so this has deep roots in the most extreme islamic circles here in america. >> right, so what is really scary about this, when someonecl from al qaeda or isis get r arrested, you know they are almost certainly a fringe player, they are not a famous imam. he is different. as soon as i started studying radical islam, he was the firsto one on my radar, because he is one of the leaders of the muslim american community, i'm sorry to say. he's very radical, the type of things he has been connected to come in terms of a coalition with other groups are the typess of things that this group, this compound in new mexico, were preparing to do, were learning how to do, that type of ideology. we haven't connected the imam to that specific operation in new mexico but you don't have to. what you're talking about is the extremist infrastructure that is the hard work, the easy work iss the violent part. >> mark: in that sense, it seems more organized than some guy from chechnya or wherever riding his car up onto the sidewalk and mowing down half a dozen people, in other words, that sort of freelance jihadism we have become used to. did this seem something slightly more institutional? >> that's right. t there's really two ways that yo create this type of problem if you are a radical. first, you say, how do i create the person that holds the weapon? it's harder. you do that by pushing the ideology, the imam for example01 in 2001 spoke at an event that was literally called "jihad caml for young muslims." that is public plates. when they are not shy about this, are they? >> they've gotten a little better since 9/11. >> mark: let me ask you something because normally with school shootings, you'll see things on twitter, the las vegas thing for example, where there will be a little -- i'm sure this will put be terrorist, his name will be ahmed, and it turns out to be the usual alienated loner. but things don't stay separate. so if school shootings are effective, at some point, jihadists will have caught onto that and want to get a piece to the action. >> look at how we all reacted to it. right? even if you can get the small number of casualties, doesn't matter because it's a school shooting, so they achieve the objective, and one of the ways that these groups operate aboved that ideological infrastructure, in terms of operations, they set up security companies and some of the information i have provided, i broke the story today, what i provided to the authorities, does link people from the compound to a security company.mp that is how you get weapons, that is how you get law enforcement-type training, that is how you do this type of thing. >> mark: that is fascinating, ryan. when you look at the compound with a piled up rubber tires, nothing to it, a lot of stuff sitting out in the desert, but it's got important connection when it comes to getting the stuff they need. thanks very much, ryan. tucker is going to come back after the break because americans are an increasingly lonely people. how did that happen and can it be fixed? that is coming up next. ♪ when my hot water heater failed, she was pregnant, in-laws were coming, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they were on it. it was unbelievable. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa- now that's a privilege. we're the baker's and we're usaa members for life. usaa. get your insurance quote today. with our largest variety of crab all year! like new crabfest combo. your one chance to have new jumbo snow crab with tender dungeness crab. or try crab lover's dream. but hurry in. 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(duracell mnemonic) ♪ >> mark: america is an increasingly crowded country with 325 million people concentrating more and more into a few major cities. despite that, or maybe because of it, america is also becoming a lonelier country, people havee fewer friends, fewer confidantes, and feel less connected to their communities, and that is having a big effect on the nation. vivek murthy is a former surgeon general of the united states, and tucker recently spoke to him. >> tucker: not making an argument against psychiatric s medication, obviously, but it's hard not to notice that the incidence of americans, number of americans on psychiatric medication is rising. but so is the suicide rate. what do you make of that? >> well, i think that antidepressants have a role, they have a place when it comess to addressing depression. there are a lot of folks who have benefited from them. but there is a big "but" here, which is that i think that we have been over time, probably overprescribing these medicines, and not looking carefully for alternatives, and for other ways to address people's depression, not looking at the causes. >> tucker: that's it right there. you would think when the suicide rate spikes, and it hashi measurably, we would have a national conversation about why. what do you think the cause is? >> i don't think there is one single cause but i think there d is one particular cause that it is contributing to depression,n, that i don't think we talk about enough, and that is social disconnection, that is loneliness, and when i began my tenure as surgeon general, if you would have told me that i would be thinking about andd talking about loneliness as much as i have, i would have told you you are absolutely wrong. but i was really educated by people all across america who i met during office, in my travels, and what i came to learn is that many of them are struggling with isolation and loneliness. they didn't always say that at the beginning of the conversation it but it became very clear that it was part of their experience in their story, that it was contributing in fact to anxiety and to depression in their lives. when i delved more deeply into the science about loneliness, or became very clear is that loneliness is not just about feelings that we may have from time to time. but when it's experienced for long periods of time, it can increase our risk for heart disease, for dementia, for anxiety and depression, and is associated with the shortening of our life span. so it turns out that people are struggling with chronic loneliness not only live shorter lives, but the mortality impact is as great as smoking 15 cigarettes a day. >> tucker: well, sure. there is no pleasure in it. it's a living hell being lonely. what would you prescribe for someone who was lonely? how do you fix that? >> the first thing, it's important to address with somebody who struggling with loneliness is getting them to talk about it, to recognize that because you are lonely does not mean that you are broken areof fundamentally flawed. >> tucker: do you see that technology is making us lonelier?d >> i think that technology is a tool that can be used to address loneliness and increase loneliness. what makes a difference is how we use technology. i think the way we are usingwh technology right now, i worry we are increasing our loneliness. one, you look at social media, and you look at the data that is increasingly coming out on social media usage and its impact on the mental health of people, you see that increased social media usage is often o associated with increased feelings of anxiety and depression. what has happened unfortunately with social media is that many people have substituted their online relationships for their off-line, in person relationships. but there's another way in which technology is playing a rolele here, which is that nearly all of us walk around with phones, with smartphones, that give us immediate access to email, text messaging, and that can be incredibly convenient. i have a smartphone and it's very, very helpful. but that phone, and our devicesi can also creep into other parts of our lives. they can come to the dinner table with us and impact the quality of the conversations we have with our family, they canth show up on the table at a restaurant when we are trying to catch up with a friend and instead they are being distracted by the messages that are popping up on our screen. t we have found that our phones and work more broadly has crept into our evening, weekends, andp vacation time, that has actually taken away from our time with family and with close friends. >> mark: and you can see tucker's full interview with the former surgeon general on the "tucker carlson tonight" facebook page. up next, it is "final exam" time. can you do better than two fox news pros? remembering this week's news, the contest, the battle, is coming up next. ♪ ♪ motorcycle revving ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪ no matter who rides point, ♪ there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. ♪♪ and just like tyrone taylor, they know what it takes to help keep you protected. are you in good hands? ♪ >> mark: you know what that music means. it is time for tucker's "final exam" where we test news professionals to see who is the news hero and who is the news zero. this week's contestant from fox business, and from my hometown of toronto, susan li. susan was on fox business earlier today launching the new smartphone. >> samsung. >> mark: but is she smart without the phone? few people are these days. we also have us with fox news correspondent at large geraldo rivera. he's done everything in show business except tucker's "final exam." and that was intentional. he planned it that way.ss but we blocked the door so he can't get out. contestants, hands on buzzers. i will ask the question in the first one to buzz gets to answer. but you must wait until i finish asking the question. you can answer once and i'll acknowledge by saying your name and each correct answer is worth one point. but you get it wrong, you lose a point. best-of-five wins. let's get started. question one: on monday, which hollywood trump hater spent the night outside the white house singing broadway's show tunes in protest? susan? >> rosie o'donnell. >> mark: let's roll that tape. >> the more people that show up here eventually will take over all of d.c. and he'll have no choice but to resign. [singing] >> mark: actually the president was in fact not in the white house but in new jersey. but he could still hear rosie from there. a wild story out of boise, idaho, folks there were shocked to look at other windows and find more than 100 of what farm animal running loose through ths city? and we go to susan again. >> ducks. >> mark: let's roll that tape. >> goats on the loose. residents in boise, idaho, waking up to a shocking scene. 118 goats swarming their suburban yards, completely unsupervised. >> what happens if you get it wrong? >> mark: we are back to 0-0. over 100 goats there. i believe they were fleeing rosie's medley. [laughter] let's go to question three. this is multiple-choice. an amish man in michigan is giving ridesharing apps a run for their money by launching his own business using just his horse and buggy. people in his town can secure a ride for just five bucks. what is this amish entrepreneur calling the service? is it a: rent a buggy? b: ye bid and driver? or c: amish uber? and we go to geraldo. >> amish uber, c. >> mark: let's roll that tape. >> meet the amish guy in southern michigan, who has dubbed himself the amish uber. >> very good. >> he drives folks around for five bucks a pop in his horse and buggy, doesn't have a cell phone, obviously, so you have to flag him down. and he is not officially associated with uber but he gets people where they are going for an abe lincoln note. >> mark: yeah, we could use that in new york. i hate it when you come out of a quilting bee and you are late for the barn raising and you can't find a yellow cab anywhere. so we really need that in new york. question -- that means that, by the way, susan, canada's reputation is now riding onan this. n geraldo takes the lead, 1-0. question four: a man wasra arrested this past week after a video went viral of him harassing a very large animal in yellowstone national park.al the man nearly got himself killed when the beast charged him. what type of animal was he harassing? susan, susan buzzed too early. she's being deported. i.c.e. are outside of the studio right now. geraldo, your turn to answer? >> a bison. >> mark: let's see that tape? >> taunting a bison. >> no, no, no. oh, no. oh, no. oh, god. oh, god. >> police say that raymond is beating his chest at the animal in yellowstone national park. he's had several run-ins apparently with the law atws national parks over just the last few weeks. >> mark: it got worse from there, afterwards, he played that bison rosie's selections from "bye bye birdie". it's horrible. you don't want to see that. h final question, another multiple-choice question, a new disney movie has been banned in china because president xi is angry that people compare him to a character in the film. who is the animated character? is it a: dumbo? b: pinocchio? or c: winnie the pooh? susan? >> c, winnie the pooh. >> mark: let's see. >> chinese movie fans will not be able to see the winnie the pooh movie,ie "christopher robin." chinese censors have banned the movie because people in the country were using pooh memes to mock president xi jingping. >> mark: president trump would love it if the worst thing rosie o'donnell's would say about him was that he looked like winnie the pooh.ru unfortunately, despite a plucky showing by our canadian gal here, geraldo has come through for the united states of america, total humiliation. final score, america, two,er canada, one. >> oh, canada. 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tucker carlson is up next. ♪ ♪ >> mark: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." i am mark steyn and for tucker this evening. the trump administration just unveiled its plan for a full-blown space force to be created by 2020. we'll have more of not just ahead. plus, more on the alleged islamic extremist compound in the new mexico desert. but first, president trump has highlighted his administration's efforts against the ms-13 gang. so of course, the left now supports ms-13. fox.com has published a video portraying the gang as a bunch of cute teenagers who ride bikes, listen to music, and work after school jobs. >> when you think of the street game ms-13, what do you see? may be something like this. or this. but what if i told you the typical ms-13 gang member in the u.s. actually looks like one of these young men on facebook? >> the ms-13 members that i've been following our working after-school jobs, they are living with their parents, they get around long island on bicycles. >> there is no indication that we are seeing a bigger surge of ms-13 then we've seen in the past. >> mark: so basically, ms-13, they are like high school valedictorians with machetes. timothy is the district attornen long island in the county's former police commissioner and he joins us. tim, these guys are all over your neck of the woods. are they just have a lack of my you find these guys dismembered and in pieces, these are some of the most vicious organized crime in the country, as you know. >> that's exactly right. when they commit a murder, they do it is our new message. they are incredibly brutal. one example, i already noted, the four boys, plenty of other examples. the two girls were murdered and brentwood, when we first came upon the homicide scene, the injuries were so severe, we actually thought it was a hit-and-run because of the head trauma was so significant. we need to take this gang extremely seriously and that is exactly what law enforcement is doing across the country and i applaud everyone's efforts. we are working together to target violent ms-13 gang members and we are making a difference. >> mark: do you think it helps when someone like boxed out, which has a lot of influence on the left, basically said, there are some people who kill people but there are a lot of nice, cute kids, going along with it as a mic with any after-school activity? >> no, it minimizes the threat that this street gang poses and it minimizes the situation that these communities find themselves in. ms-13 targets young, hispanic boys in neighborhoods that are underserved. it's incredibly important that we target these gang members with aggressive law enforcement tactics and that we also invest in gang prevention and intervention strategies so we prevent them from recruiting more members. >> mark: good luck with that. they have done some terrible things out in your part of long island, tim. thanks very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> mark: america remains in the grips of an immigration crisis and other aspects, too. in one of the two major parties, increasingly promoting policies indistinguishable from global open borders. any effort to enforce the country's border invites accusations of racism, even though mexico is actually importing more people who come from honduras than the united states does. earlier this week, we saw the border patrol capture a man attempting to smuggle three brazilians into the country using a fake ems vehicle. a great day is an anchor at univision and he joins us now. henrique, this is interesting to me that mexico is allowed to deport hondurans without being accused of racism. while the u.s. isn't. why does one country get to enforce its borders, but another doesn't? >> you just got a look at news reports in mexico and around central america to know that mexico's immigration policy is highly criticized, the way they violate human rights for the central americans is also highly criticized. it has been pointed out by, i would say, hundreds of news reports and human rights reports, too. i don't think they are being able to get away with anything. i would just say that, despite what many people say on this network and at the white house, in terms of mexico not doing anything to help the u.s. with undocumented immigration, you just stated the fact that mexico is importing hondurans and other central americans at a very fast-paced, over 200,000 central american migrants have been deported. that's a lot. >> mark: mexico is not aborting 200,000 hondurans to kiss up to president trump. it is doing it in its own national interest. so -- >> this is the thing, mark. they are doing it in the program and agreement between the u.s. and mexico to have mexico guarded south borders with u.s. dollars. some of that comes from the u.s., so it is doing it in part, tell mike to honor agreements with the u.s. in the u.s. gover. >> mark: that is not why -- we all know the truth, or most people should know the truth about mexico, which is that it is ruled by a corrupt elite who are essentially european mexicans, mexicans of white european descent, who treat everybody else, whether they are mexican or not, appallingly. and isn't the reality of a legal mexican immigration that you have a essentially a corrupt ele in mexico driving the people it despises into america in much the same way as it would be if we said 20 years ago, let's flat white south africans drive all the blacks out of the country so they can have it to themselves k south africans can find somewhere else to live? is about the reality of mexican illegal immigration? >> welcome i know. we started this conversation by saying that mexico is importing more hondurans to their country than the u.s., and now we are saying that mexico is actually letting them through and sending them to the u.s. mexico is not sending anyone to the u.s., actually, more mexicans are coming back to their country than those emigrating into the u.s., with or without documents. mexico is part of a route that is used by central american immigrants and more and more, it is trying to enforce this immigration policy, as we cope in a humane way, which is not always the case, to try to have, and the cases of refugees, not only their right conditions, but also to let them legally request asylum and then go through and vaguely a quest asylum in the u.s. >> mark: but why is that in america's interest? that is a federal question, enrique. >> what is what it meant the american interest? >> mark: what does unskilled mass immigration from mexico and latin america in america's interest? >> as i was saying, immigration from mexico is not zero now. if that a sloth level it's been in decades. there is no math immigration from the mexico into the u.s. there is a problem central americans coming to the u.s. border. but we could have a larger debate on the benefits of immigration. i would ask you, what is so wrong about immigration? how is immigration hurting the u.s. or how is this different to other immigration in the u.s. history? >> mark: it's predicted that 30% of the world's jobs are going to be outmoded by automation and robots, no developed jobs needed mass immigration. as you say, we'll have that comport occasion one day. thank you, enrique. thanks a lot. house minority leader nancy pelosi says that voters should fact democrats in november because it will help illegal immigrants, so vote for your democrat candidate and they will let lots of people in the country to take your jobs. >> we are not going to be able to get it done under the republican leadership in congress. we believe that we all have leverage when we went back in november. >> mark: leverage and november. that is intended to appeal to hispanic voters but it may not be working. polls have shown president trump's approval with hispanics to be above 30%. that is better than i vote to share he got in 2016. elvira salazar is a republican who is running for congress in florida, and she joins us today. elvira, we often think that in your state, for example, cuban-americans tend to vote republican, but we see signs that actually there is a broader appeal among the hispanic a population now. >> it is indeed. but i want to answer to it nancy pelosi was saying, and once again, the democrats are trying to play political football with hispanics. in 2008, in 2009, president obama said to my colleague from univision, jorge ramos, that we were going to have an immigration reform law the first year of his presidency. in reality, he used his political capital to pass obamacare. so right there, the democrats, and nancy pelosi, had the wonderful and magnificent opportunity to stop this immigration reform problem that we have, or to pass an immigration reform law, and in reality, while the democrats gave us were crumbs called the daca executive order. and i want -- i think that we should really point out, and these are facts, this is not analysis, that in 1996, president clinton signed something called the immigration reform law, which gave the legal framework for president trump to be separating families. so let me just start with those two facts, that is why president obama and nancy pelosi are traitors to hispanics. now why are hispanics now giving approval ratings? because hispanics share many of the core values that are dear to the republicans. we are god-fearing, law-abiding, we like small government, we are self-reliant, we do not want government in our lives, we fear god and we want -- we love this country. and -- >> mark: let me just ask you a question on that though, elvira. because the people can have different views on that. but what i find interesting about the democrats' view of hispanics, and the media's the media assume that lawful hispanics in the united states only care about illegal immigration. that, in fact, they are just ethnic solidarity voters. if you have been in this country for generations and you are hispanics can buy your most important issue is leading in lots of other hispanics. is that true, is that the only issue you guys care about? >> at all. it is very important for us to find a solution to those people that have lived here for more than 15, 20 years like a tps recipient. we don't want those people to be thrown out of here like cattle, because they have put roots in this country. that is why an immigration reform law is so important. it's important for us. but also, the economy. look at what is happening with the economy right now. that is benefiting more hispanic businesses. >> mark: that is certainly true. we have to leave it there, elvira. thanks very much. good luck in your race. friction between the carr fire man president trump's legal team is heating up. professor alan dershowitz will address the president's position next on "tucker carlson tonight." ♪ ♪ -morning. -morning. -what do we got? -keep an eye on that branch. might get windy. have a good shift. fire pit. last use -- 0600. i'd stay close. morning. ♪ get ready to switch. protected by flo. should say, "protected by alan and jamie." -right? -should it? when you bundle home and auto... run, alan! ...you get more than just savings. you get 'round-the-clock protection. of the mueller team would backfire on them. >> wears a sense of justice on the part of mueller, on the part of the justice department? people who hate drum were put into primary positions of power. that is completely tainted this investigation. the real story here is not that this case isn't going to fizzle, it's going to blow up on them. >> mark: alan dershowitz is a retired harvard law school professor and the author of "the case against impeaching trump" and he joins us. professor, is this interview with the president going to happen and should it happen? >> it won't happen. i think it's going to happen is giuliani will make mueller an offer he can't accept, to paraphrase "the godfather," and that way trump will be able to say, look, i wanted to testify but it was mueller who turned down a reasonable request by our attorney. look, no lawyer would ever allow a client to testify under these circumstances. all they have to do is ask him one question, "did you know about the meeting in the trump tower with your son," if you answer that question truthfully, that he didn't know, if that in fact is the truth, he could still be charged with perjury, lying to a government official because we have michael cohen who says he did know. you you never allow your client to see something that can be contradicted by another witness because the prosecution can choose to believe that other witness. >> mark: if you had president trump as a client, though, he's a very good, gregarious guy who was quite happy to sit down and talk and o jack to anybody and thinks that as long as he is just, like, straight forward and says what he thinks, everything will be fine. often, from a lawyer's point of view, that is the worst kind of client to have, isn't it? >> yes. and i would certainly -- i'm not his lawyer, obviously -- but i would advise him to speak to the public on television, say what he wants to say, write his tweets, although i don't think he helps himself by some of his tweets. but under no circumstances put yourself in a position where you can be charged with perjury or lying to a federal official. and if he doesn't believe me, he should make two phone calls, one to martha stewart, who went to jail because of what she said after prosecutors, and the other to bill clinton, who was impeached because of what he said in an interview under oath. and so i think every responsible lawyer would say to him, you should not either testify or be interviewed. look, i once gave him advice on television, i said, i have four pieces of advice, don't fire, don't pardon, don't tweet, and don't testify. >> mark: i want to ask you about rudy's other point, the hyperpartisan nature of what has been happening. with reference to this bruce ohr guy in the justice department, and his 60 60 contacts at least with christopher steele, the mi6 agent who was basically the dirty tricks operative for the democratic party. you know as well as i do that impartiality is the essence of justice, a county court judge can't have a bunch of communications with the plaintiff and not with the defendant. that is a big no-no. how come bruce ohr at the department of justice doesn't know you can't talk to one political party continuously through the height of a campaign? >> of course, there is a difference between a judge in a prosecutor. prosecutors are allowed to talk to people, and so i don't believe that mueller and his team care about whether the democrats win or the republicans win. they are not partisan in that sense. i think they are zealous, some would say overzealous prosecutors, because he is special counsel, he has a target on the back of the president and others. if this case were handled by ordinary u.s. attorneys, and they came back after a year or two years without indicting anybody, it wouldn't be a story, no one would know. but when a special counsel is given a target and he fails to indict, he has been a failure, and that is why i am so strongly opposed to a special counsel, except of the most extraordinary circumstances, which weren't met in this case. >> mark: you're absolutely right about that, professor, in terms of the special counsel's office. i hope we get rid of them. thanks a lot. as a young self identified socialist, alexandria ocasio-cortez supposedly represents the future of the democratic party. it's a strange future to behold. >> we need to occupy every airport, we need to occupy every border, we need to occupy every i.c.e. office. we look at figure sensei, unemployment is low, everything is fine, right? well, unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs. why aren't we incorporating the cost of the funeral expenses and those who die because they can't afford access to health care? this, like, upper-middle-class is probably more moderate but that upper-middle-class doesn't exist anymore. they are haiti was in the '90s when, like, kids had furbies and parents had soccer moms with two book vans. that is not america anymore. >> mark: soccer moms with two bands and funeral expenses crippling the economy. is this the sort of thing the democrats can run on, win on, and, god help us, govern on? chris is the president of new heights communications and she joins us. this is the future of the party? >> look, i like ocasio-cortez. i think she speaks clearly, i think she speaks with moral conviction, and i think a lot of people were inspired by her and that is why she won her primary. that said, she won a primary a month ago in a congressional contest that represents the bronx and queens. this is not necessarily america. that said, i will say that people like her because she is this young latina woman who seemingly came out of nowhere, nobody gave her a chance, she had no endorsements, nobody in the party really got behind her, "the new york times" never even wrote a piece about her until after she won them and then it was, "where did this lady come from." the reasons she did so well, and was able to topple somebody like joe crowley, is because of the way that she talked about issues that people cared about in her district. >> mark: isn't it more basic than that? you said because she is a long latina. and the democrats now, it's all about identity politics. she is a young latina, he's an old white male. she is the dash he's the past, e future, and the fact that she talks about the 1990s like i talk about the 1890s, and that she seriously thinks that if 50% of the workforce are doing two jobs, you have full employment, that is irrelevant. it is all identity. young latina trump's the dead white male. >> no, i don't think so. but i do think for women in particular, also people of color are the ones who are furious right now, they are furious at donald trump, they are furious at the dash i'll be honest -- the old white men who are runnig the republican party right now and frankly, who have a pretty big grip on the democratic party, as well. so that is why you have seen so many women across the country who have said, you know what, it is my turn, i'm going to run for office now, too played and they are winning in record numbers. so particularly so particularly in the democratic side, mark, if you see a race in which there is not an incumbent, there is a man, a woman running, women on the democratic side are winning 70% of the time. that is amazing. with that said, america wants to see more women in office, and i -- >> mark: good luck telling that to bernie and chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, because you've got your old white issues in that party, too. >> we shared do. it's a big tent rates. when nancy pelosi is happy to take a tire iron to anyone who argues with that. thank you, christy. what on earth was going on in the new mexico compound where muslim extremists were allegedly performing exorcisms and training school shooters? 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"tucker carlson tonight" investigates. ryan mauro's director of the intelligence network at the clarion project. a nonprofit that educates the public on radical islam. he has assisted authorities in this investigation and he joins us now. ryan, if you watch certain other networks, you'll find it very hard to pick up on the muslim angle to this. they are being rather coy about it, as is their won't. but the father of the principal guy here, for example, is a big shot a mom who was an unindicted coconspirator in the original world trade center bombing a quarter century ago. so this has deep roots in the most extreme islamic circles here in america. >> right, so what is really scary about this, when someone from al qaeda or isis get arrested, you know they are almost certainly a fringe player, they are not a famous imam. he is different. as soon as i started studying radical islam, he was the first one on my radar, because he is one of the leaders of the basel american community, i'm sorry to say. he's very radical, the type of things he has been connected to come in terms of a coalition with other groups are the types of things that this group, this compound in new mexico, were preparing to do, were learning how to do, that type of ideology. we haven't connected the imam to that specific operation in new mexico but you don't have to. what you're talking about is the extremist infrastructure that is the hard work, the easy work is the violent part. >> mark: in that sense, it seems more organized than some guy from chechnya or wherever writing his car up onto the sidewalk and mowing down half a dozen people, and other words, that sort of freelance jihadism we have become used to. did this seem something slightly more institutional? >> that's right. there's really two ways that you create this type of problem if you are a radical. first, you say, how do i create the person that holds the weapon? is harder. you do that by pushing the ideology, imam for example in 2001 spoke at an event that was literally called "g hard camp for young muslims." that is public plates. when they are not shy about this, are they? >> they've gotten better since 9/11. >> mark: let me ask you something because normally with school shootings, you'll see things on twitter, the las vegas thing for example, where there will be a little -- i'm sure this will put be terrorist, his name will be awkward, and it turns out to be the usual alienated loner. but things don't stay separate. so if school shootings are effective, at some point, jihadists will have caught onto that and want to get a piece to the action. >> look at how we all reacted to it. right? even if you can get the small number of casualties, doesn't matter because it's a school shooting, so they achieve the objective, and one of the ways that these groups operate above that ideological infrastructure, in terms of operations, they set up security companies and some of the information i have provided, i broke the story today, what i provided to the authorities, does link people from the compound to a security company. that is a good reference, that is how you good law enforcement type training, that is how you do this type of thing. >> mark: that is fascinating, ryan. when you look at the compound with a piled up rubber tires, nothing to it, a lot of stuff sitting out in the desert, but it's got important connection when it comes to getting the stuff they need. thanks very much, ryan. tucker is going to come back after the break because americans are an increasingly lonely people. how did that happen and can it be fixed? that is coming up next. ♪ when my hot water heater failed, she was pregnant, in-laws were coming, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they were on it. it was unbelievable. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa- now that's a privilege. we're the baker's and we're usaa members for life. usaa. get your insurance quote today. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist. you can barely feel. i got it. i gotcha baby. 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[singing] >> mark: actually the president was in fact not in the white house but in new jersey. but he could still hear rosie from there. a wild story out of boise, idaho, folks there were shocked to look at other windows and find more than 100 of what farm animal running loose? revisited? and we go to susan again. >> ducks. >> mark: let's roll that tape. >> goats on the loose. residence in boise, idaho, waking up to a shocking scene. 118 goats swarming their suburban yards, completely unsupervised. >> what happens if you get it wrong? >> mark: we are back to 0-0. over 100 goats there. i believe they were fleeing rosie's natalie. [laughter] let's go to question three. this is multiple-choice. an amish man in michigan is giving ridesharing apps a run for their money by launching his own business using just his horse and buggy. people in his town can secure a ride for just five bucks. what is this amish entrepreneur calling the service? is it a: rent a buggy? b" he bid and driver" or c: amish uber? and we go to geraldo. >> amish uber, c. >> mark: let's rule that tape. >> meet the amish guy in southern michigan, who is dubbed himself the amish uber. >> very good. >> he drives folks around for five bucks a pop in his horse and buggy, doesn't have a cell phone, obviously, so you have to flag him down. and he's a to is not officially associated with uber but he gets people where they are going for in a blink in note. >> mark: yeah, we could use that in new york. i hate it when you come out of a quilting bee and you are late for the barn raising and you can find a yellow cab anyway. so we really need that in new york. question -- that means that, by the way, susan, canada's reputation is now riding on this. geraldo takes the lead, 1-0. question four, a man was arrested this past week after a video went viral of him harassing a very large animal. in yellowstone national park. the man nearly got himself killed when the beast charged him. what type of animal was he harassing? susan, susan buzzed too early. she's being deported. i.c.e. are outside of the studio right now. geraldo, your turn to answer? >> a bison. >> mark: let's see that tape? >> taunting a bison. >> no, no, no. oh, no. oh, no. oh, god. oh, god. >> police say that raymond is beating his chest at the animal in yellowstone national park. he's had several run-ins apparently with the law at national parks or over just the last few weeks. >> mark: it got worse from there, afterwards, he played that bison rosie's selections from "bye bye birdie"." it's horrible. you don't want to see that. final question, another multiple-choice question, a new disney movie has been banned in china because president xi is angry that people compare him to a character in the film. who is the animated character? is it a: dumbo? b: pinocchio? or c: c: winnie the pooh? susan? >> see , winnie the pooh. >> mark: let's see. >> chinese movie fans will not be able to see the winnie the pooh movie, christopher robin. chinese censors have banned the movie because people in the country were using pooh memes to mock president xi jingping. >> mark: president trump would love it if the worst thing rosie o'donnell's would say about him was that he looked like winnie the pooh. unfortunately, despite a plucky showing by our canadian gal here, geraldo has come through for the united states of america, total humiliation. final score, america, two, canada one. >> >> oh, canada. 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