that the electction wawas stolen from him. - wewere you sururprised? - wawas i surprirised by-- - were y you surprisised at hw close e it came atat the end? could d you have p predicted t in a a sealed enenvelope? - - no, i don'n't think sos. i thouought we werere either ga wiwin it by a a very littltlet or l lose it by y eight or ten poioints. having nevever been through h it before,e, i didn't know which to believe, the polls or the enthusiasm of the people. - it didn't get a lot of attention. and so it didn't really spring forward until the trump era. we cannonot allow ththese cros to s steal an elelection from the a american pepeople. when i r ran for mayayor of new york c city the fifirst ti, someme people vovoted eieight and teten times. - anand it realllly struck m, becacause it wasas sosomething ththat giulianai didndn't carry o on a lot abat at thehe time. hehe may have e said it here and t there, but itit's not somomething he made a a big issue.e. - - it did notot definene him in 191989. i ththink he stitill had enough intnternal discsciplin, connecection to ththe real wor, whwhatever youou want to c cal, that h he didn't d define himsf asas a person n who had