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Whip inflation. And in the new york times, in his obituary that just went on lon online. He did it, Interest Rates went up higher than anyone would have ever expected, but history proved to be on paul volkers side, and think which i for the past 20 or 30 years, much of that is ohhed to bawed to paul. He had a quality that is missing greatly and he was involved in politics, and that squault courage. He had the courage of his convictions to do as you just eluded to, Interest Rates and that period ...

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