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MSNBC Dateline December 15, 2019 07:33:00

>> she met a guy and she would stay the night at his house. i mean when her kids are calling us up saying we dont have any food in the house, can you come and bring us food, theres a problem. >> reporter: and so when dawn and ben went to court to fight for custody of alyssa, cindy had to tell the truth. >> i told the judge that dawn wasnt taking care of her kids anymore. they werent a priority. they werent even number five. >> reporter: when ben won custody of alyssa and more than $200 a month i...
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MSNBC Dateline December 15, 2019 07:37:00

>> but she had quite a story to tell about james. about how he offered to murder ben. >> the night ben died, he said now or never. and i said no. i said not today. dont do it. no. i said no. i said no. no, no, no, no. >> reporter: hours later, she said, james woke her up from a sound sleep and told her ben was dead. but that, she said, is all he told her. all she knew. >> so youre confident that james had something to do with it? >> i dont know. >> reporter: but was that really all she knew? daw...
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MSNBC Dateline December 15, 2019 07:44:00

That sometimes you need the help of one of the people involved to get the main person. >> reporter: and so dawn oxley was offered a limited immunity agreement, cooperate with the prosecution, testify truthfully against james and you wont be prosecuted. a sort of get out of jail free card. why go ahead and make that deal with her so soon? you had her statement. why not hold off for a while and be patient and then get them both? >> lets say we dont do the deal with her and we go out and arrest him...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190722:04:37:00

Ben. >> the night ben died he said now or never. i said no. not today. dont do it. no. i said no. no, no, no, no, no. >> hours later, she said, james woke her up from a sound sleep and told her ben was dead. that, she said, is all he told her. all she knew. >> you confident james had something do with it? >> i dont know. >> is that really all she knew? dawn, remember, had a 16-year-old son named devin, who, detectives learned, was at home and listening in the hours before ben oxley was murdered....
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190722:04:33:00

We dont have food in the house, can you bring us food? there is a problem. >> when dawn and ben went to court to fight for custody, cindy had to tell the truth. >> told the judge that dawn wasnt taking care of her kids anymore. they were not a priority. they were not even number five. >> when ben won custody of alyssa and more than $200 a month in child support, dawn was devastated. this is her mother, a retired deputy sheriff. >> she would sit in the garage and just bawl about not getting her d...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190722:04:44:00

Testify truthfully against james and you wont be prosecuted. a sort of get out of jail free card. >> why go ahead and make that deal with her so soon? you had her statement. why not hold off and be patient and get them both? >> say we dont do the deal with her and arrest him. whats our evidence? >> dawn signed the agreement and james was charged with first-degree murder. but, the end of the story? oh, no. not even close. the truth had been hiding, but it was itching to come out. young devin, rem...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190114:07:44:00

>> reporter: and so dawn oxley was offered a limited immunity agreement, cooperate with the prosecution, testify truthfully against james and you wont be prosecuted. a sort of get-out-of-jail-free card. why make that deal with her so soon? you had her statement. why not hold off for a while and be patient and then get them both? >> lets say we dont do the deal with her and we go out and arrest him. whats our evidence? >> reporter: dawn signed the agreement and james was charged with first-degree...
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