and that s what mcmaster, what tillerson, what kelly, what mattis all concluded. they concluded that we have a president of the united states who is a danger to the national security of the united states. we ve never had a situation like that where the president s closest aides concluded that the president himself was the danger to our national security. carl bernstein. this ukraine story is part of that. i ve got to leave it there. you re a wealth of knowledge. we really appreciate you being here. good to be with you. thank you so much. what is the impact of president trump s lies? join jake tapper as he investigates the truth. the cnn special report kwlt all the president s lies aired tonight at 9:00 here on cnn. we re also following breaking news this hour in the case of navy seal eddie gallagher. the defense secretary has ordered the resignation of the navy s top civilian leader for
hearings that republicans accused democrats of not letting republicans into even though devin nunes was in all of them. eric swalwell, who is on the intelligence committee, entered betsy s reporting about devin nunes into the record and said this. mr. chairman, you ve been falsely accused throughout these proceedings by the ranking member as being quote-unquote a fact witness. now if this story is correct the ranking member may have actually been projecting. and in fact he may be the fact witness if he s working with indicted individuals around our investigation. now, barbara, we ve had this conversation about a few people over the last several months including the attorney general bill barr. if devin nunes went to ukraine and is mixed up in this conversation one way or the other. even if he was simply
i can tell you that i spoke with bondy, the lawyer you referred to earlier this evening. he told me two things that are new for me to have confirmed. the first thing that he said was that an aide to congressman nunes told lev parnas nunes and team were investigated the biden family and an energy company called burisma where joe biden s son hunter biden was a board member. those topics were of paramount importance to trump and giuliani. trump and giuliani pressured the ukrainian government to investigate those specific topics in hopes that an investigation would benefit trump. and the second thing he told me is that a former ukrainian prosecutor named victor shulkin, an important character, told lev parnas he had a meeting with congressman nunes in vienna. victor shulkin is a vital character in this story.
another of parnas lawyer ed mcmahn told the daily beast this week that parnas, quote, helped arrange meetings and calls in europe for representative devin nunes in 2018. nunes aide harvey participated in the meetings which were arranged to help nunes investigative work. mcmahn didn t testify what those investigations entailed, end quote. betsy woodruff swan is still working on the story. she s an editor for the daily beast and an msnbc contributor. also barbara mcquaid, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan and an msnbc legal contributor. betsy, what is this new information about lev parnas?
doctrinaire in his conservative thinking. it was puzzling to some people that he got himself mixed up with donald trump, but it suited him because he s got some hawkish views on a few things donald trump was willing to indulge. at this point it doesn t seem he has any particular loyalty to donald trump. and he seems to be signaling to everyone that he s got something to say. what do you make of this? first of all, the most interesting thing about that is he repeated one of his disputes with donald trump and that is that he resigned. when he resigned trump claimed to have fired him. and that reminds us that he has no love lost for donald trump. it s interesting he put that in there. listen, i think john bolton has a book, and he apparently has a book deal. he s giving speeches to investment banking groups and making a lot of money. so he is making money off of his story. and if he comes and tells that story for free under oath to congress, it s not worth that much. so i hate to say it