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Giuliani is operating apart from the president. these -- >> but youre not even criticizing giuliani? >> i think what mayor giuliani did is -- is far afield of what is normal in an administration. ill say that. >> he did it with instruct sh-- with the instructions of the president of the united states. >> that is a big leap to make. >> how is that a big leap? he said talk to rudy. how is that -- >> talk to rudy about what. >> everything until the transcript. >> you show me -- [ multiple speakers ...