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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:51:00

Of speech, or if i feel that they are being homophobic, or they are controlling, trying to control womens reproductive rights or any of those things, or being politically reactionary and im afraid it happens in all of these religions. so, in a sense, you wanted to make a stand by drawing the prophet mohammed. i wonder whether it was worth it because of course the police then said they uncovered a plot to kill you. it never reached a courtroom, but they said there was a plot out there. youve cert...
Prophet Mohammed Make A Stand By Drawing Death Threats Everything Else Salman Rushdie

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:46:00

Specific one i want to talk about. i guess you may know what it is. its 2016 and a cartoon where you portrayed zuma as the its 2016 its a cartoon where you portrayed zuma, but you protrayed him as the organ grinder in a visual representation of the classic thing about the monkey and the organ grinder, and the monkey on this occasion was actually the national prosecuting authority chief, a guy called shaun abrahams, who is a south african man of colour. you portrayed him as a monkey. 0k. how coul...
Organ Grinder Portrayed Zuma South Africa National Prosecuting Authority Chief Shaun Abrahams

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:39:00

Corruption charges, he suddenly got a rape charge against him. under cross examination, he admitted that he actually knew that the person he had supposedly had this consensual sex with was hivโ€”positive. and then they said to him, "so did you use protection?" no, he didnt. why not? because he thought he didnt have much chance of infection. now, jacob zuma had been the head of the national aids council when he was deputy president, so this was really absurd. and then it went further. they said, ...
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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:43:00

The case went on for four years right into his presidency and he was determined to go for me. i confronted him about it on radio and he said something very funny, he said, "i saw your cartoons, you are invading my dignity," which is a very strange and interesting version of events. but thats what he saw i was doing. but i wonder whether you were given more pause for thought not by the fact that zuma was infuriated and took you through the legal system, but many other south africans were infuriat...
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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:40:00

At how you did this. the point is you didntjust do this shower drawing once, you did it time and time and time again over many months โ€” in fact, over many years. heres one example. you cannot imagine a man made to look more ridiculous than this image of zuma with his giant shower nozzle over his head. were you, in a sense as a cartoonist, trying to destroy his credibility? of course. i think he was doing a damn fine job of that himself, but im then elaborating and doing more with things that h...
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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:47:00

People in ways that i would never do. i thought i was doing something very different and for a while, the cartoon sat in the public domain and people thought it was a very funny cartoon, very interesting cartoon. it was talking about โ€” it said another state organ, another organ grinder๏ฟฝ*s monkey, because zuma was busy converting the state organs into mouthpieces organs into his mouthpieces appointed this little puppet. but in the end, it was a black man as a monkey. ok, so, when i said i mis...
Cartoon Sat Public Domain State Organ Organ Grinder S Monkey Black Man Human Form

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:51:00

Concerned, thats ok? i dont do it as a gratuitous insult. what i do is if there is some reason that i feel that they are preventing freedom of speech, or if i feel that they are being homophobic, or they are controlling, trying to control womens reproductive rights or any of those things, or being politically reactionary and im afraid it happens in all of these religions. so, in a sense, you wanted to make a stand by drawing the prophet mohammed. i wonder whether it was worth it because of cours...
Freedom Of Expression Community Prophet Mohammed Make A Stand By Drawing Death Threats Everything Else

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:46:00

The same way. but i felt i came out of that particular cartoon 0k. theres one other cartoon, specific one i want to talk about. i guess you may know what it is. its 2016 and a cartoon where you portrayed zuma as the organ grinder in a visual representation of the classic thing about the monkey and the organ grinder, and the monkey on this occasion was actually the national prosecuting authority chief, a guy called shaun abrahams, who is a south african man of colour. you portrayed him as a monke...
Cartoon 0k National Prosecuting Authority Chief Organ Grinder South Africa Shaun Abrahams

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:38:00

"you wouldve seen the cartoons becoming more and more critical of the anc and of government," and he said, "oh, but that is yourjob." and for me, thatjust personified that amazing ability of his to take criticism and to see the importance of criticism, of cartooning, of good journalism in the country. and that puts him head and shoulders above most politicians, most statesmen. lets talk now about your relationship with more recent south african leaders. in particular, i want to focus onjacob zum...
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