Like everyone else. Yes, the head of the Foreign Ministry in hungary shared his assessments with our journalists. By the way, unlike so many yesov colleagues, as you know, who are literally now already in force applied to russian journalists, this is how it recently happened with the president of france, who took away phones, well, not personally, but through security, was rude, disrespectful to the russian media, for which , in fact, they received a call from the ambassador, notes of protest, everything that comes with it connected. Here are other western countries, members of nato, the european union, they tried to somehow enter into an informal, even closed dialogue with the minister, im not asking about the details, i m just trying to understand, thats when they say that russia is not ready for negotiations , they showed some interest in the negotiations, you perfectly used a wonderful expression, im trying to understand, when i read on the eve of the trip. Lavrov to the Un General Assembly for a political week, when on the eve of this trip i read an interview with the head of the french Foreign Ministry, mrs. Colon, i too tried to understand what she meant, she told a journalist who asked approximately the same questions , so what do you want from russia, do you talk to her, dont talk to her, if you want to resolve issues, how can you decide without russia, she tried to somehow formulate some thoughts , this is all a written interview, you can read it and said that the problem is that of course they want to talk with russia, but sergeykovich lavrov rarely at those International Events that she attends, this is generally an amazing story , at which such events does she attend, often sergei vidovich less often, given that she mentioned the twenty, and so sergevich lavrov was there, and was among the twenty at the twenty summit, i i dont know where she was, then she she began to say that the problem is that when she often talks with lavrov, she does not find common ground, now i wanted to ask, do you communicate so rarely or often, well, you formulated it absolutely clearly, we are trying to generally understand what is happening to them, because on the one hand the desire to overcome contradictions is declared, on the other hand they talk about a battlefield, battles, which should itself show something, well, it seems to me that they are simply in the . Ideological, and perhaps somewhere already a mental crisis, because after all, when we talk about an ideological, ideological crisis, we mean that everything is fine with them, just with logic, there is just an incomprehensible feeling about where, where to move, based on the statements of the same blinkin, colona, and many others , i already have a question regarding logical thinking, well, thats impossible, because again, russias reluctance to negotiate is broken by the argument that the russian minister spoke about, so you yourself banned them, in particular to the kiev regime, you yourself limited the possibility contacts, even at the official level, simply by blocking the passage of the russian official aircraft, in particular, as was the case a year and a half ago, at the Un Human Rights Council in geneva, at the headquarters over there in geneva, the russian delegation could not come, you yourself stopped what or contacts at the level of senior diplomats, you yourself did this , then why are you complaining that there are no negotiations or movement in this direction, that is, there is some kind of crisis, it seems to me, in logical thinking and this is also understandable, because if there is logic, then there must be facts, then everything will be clear. But you can see how they manipulate facts, and hence the problems with logic, well, i received from washington, when i asked how american officials perceived the behavior of the russian delegation, they told me that, in general, the russians behaved representatives are wrong because they acted as if everything was normal and as if they were not isolated, and i asked a question and it didnt occur to you that they didnt think themselves isolated, but for me to be told, no, this cannot be, because we dont meet with them, thats all, they are from. If they dont communicate, then we are isolated, and the fact that they are selfisolated, and the fact that they found themselves in selfisolation does not occur to them, why . Because democracy for them is an exclusively internal concept , they have never in their lives extrapolated it, to this entire international space, and if they had done it once, at least once, they would have realized that the laws. Of democracy, and not in including about the majority, about the majority, about respect, opinions taking into account the interests of the minority, but about the majority, and the majority, the world majority, has already made its choice, when you look at the American Press, talk with american officials, experts, you see some kind of strange, the feeling that. After all, russia can change its wrong behavior under pressure from countries from the south, other developing countries that also feel themselves suffering from the war in ukraine, and that they will use the General Assembly the presence of the russian delegation to put pressure on russia, on minister lavov, on all of you in terms of the plan. Was there something similar for greater flexibility in ukraine . It was exactly what you said, an attempt to enter through the press, pump up the information field , in particular using, as they consider their main trump card, the grain deal, as they call it, the black sea initiative, that is, the topic of grain and food security, in principle they had everything ready for this topic to become such a key, you know, an opener for. So that to get into the heart of every inhabitant of that same world majority that we were talking about, but you see what a misfortune it turned out to be, from the high rostrum of the General Assembly poland and ukraine quarreled, right in front of the eyes of the world majority, they began to find out, thats how children, you know, there is such game, the ball is hot, there is no need for grain, no, it is necessary, i dont even know what this game is called, whether its horseshoes or something else, its some kind of crazy game, when the most heated, information and propaganda thesis that was supposed to provide this is exactly what it is the obsessive feeling of ones own rightness of caring for the whole world was destroyed in a second by this wild debate between the leadership of poland and zelensky, it was in the hall of the General Assembly that there was a dispute, not about how, i dont know, to shorten the logistics chains for delivering grain to those in need, not about somehow fixing this very ammonia pipeline, through which fertilizer can also be supplied to those regions that so need this convenience, no, the kiev regime imposed its grain on the west, and poland on in particular. By the way, expressing not only my point of view, i tried to say that she does not need it, for only one reason, because this is a fraud with speculation that hits their own producers, i remember very well how all this it began, and it seems to me, even in your studio, i would say, in our studio, we discussed this, when i like this approach, yes, when we analyzed the footage of the polish minister with the polish farmer, after all all this did not reach warsaw immediately either, but only when the polish farmers, literally reached the polish government, here is the answer to the question can the west, as they say , win the hearts of the world majority, they call it the global south, they would like to, but they dont know the main secret, let s help them we will open , they will not be able to conquer, they have tried for centuries, in different ways, by force and deception, but there is a simple rule , equal, mutually respectful. Cooperation is exactly what we are fighting for, and as soon as they accept it, they understand it, their experts are understand, but the western elite cannot allow this for themselves, because otherwise they will cease to be exceptional , i looked at the American Press mainly, but also more broadly at what was available to me from other western press, i did not see a single mention of how any something. This delegation at the meeting with Sergei Viktorovich said lets quickly show flexibility in ukraine. so i tried to find evidence that the collective west succeeded in this mobilization of neutral countries. I did not find such evidence, this really happened, but you understand, but if in the west they believe that everyone believes what cnn says, then they are mistaken, people have already learned to distinguish between cnn and the truth, they already understand that this obsessive chatter that comes from the white house, from the state department and spreads throughout to the american information space, well, lets call it anglosaxon, that this is not the ultimate truth, that these are not facts, this is the first moment, the second moment, who they decided, so to speak, to educate. The south, as they say, are those countries where they were colonialists, these countries dont even need today, the current information space, in order to understand what is happening, these countries do not learn from their textbooks, but from the Current International situation, they know from the history of their families, from the history of their land, from the history of those conflicts that now do not allow them to take a place in number of developed countries and leading world economies, they know this, from the famine provoked not by them, but by the former colonialists, the lack of normal borders with neighbors, the endless diseases of everything that these people left behind the very metropolises , who also considered themselves exceptional at that time, therefore this manipulation did not and will not work with them, and another very important point is that this is not only a natural rejection of this very superiority, a conditionally white man. This is also an alternative, this is a very important point, an alternative created, among other things , by russia in the form of brix, in the form of the sco, in the form of economic, in particular eurasian integration spaces. If this alternative did not exist, yes, there would be a big question will many of these countries be able to withstand this onslaught, but they see that there is an alternative, and this is the first time that this alternative has worked so well, right . But i wont say that the first case , the counterterrorism efforts of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, yielded results, because please excuse me, we saw 20 years of the presence of americans, not only we, but the whole world saw how nato americans were present in afghanistan for 20 years, so what . But we saw the Counterterrorism Center created under the auspices of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and we saw what it was doing, and we saw what successes do the countries that participate in it have . In his work, this alternative was manifested here, so no , it was probably declared so loudly recently, probably because it has matured, probably because these organizations, structures, these associations, they took place, for this requires experience, of course, and most importantly, the time that has passed has given these associations the opportunity to confirm their peaceful status, that they are not directed against anyone, because look, in many of these countries, which is also extremely it is important that governments changed, not just governments changed, but courses also changed, some were more westernoriented, others were more aimed at sovereignizing the economy, the humanitarian space, in different ways, but under different formations, under different leaders, these countries remained within the associations, and these and these associations never posed. Them the question either one way or another, and you leave, or you change the regime to suit our association, or you subscribe to the rules of brix, sco, and so on , only in in the form in which we need it, other countries would say, and do you change your settings there, or do we not communicate with you, as happens in nato . Time has shown that these associations are based on completely different principles. Principles created, and this, of course, strengthened them, made them not just attractive, but showed a real alternative. We are having a very interesting conversation, so i dont even feel quite. A lot of time, and i didnt ask you the question that i am obliged to ask, nagornokarabakh, i have a more specific question, we no longer we know less what happened, we more or less know why it happened, but im interested in Prime Minister pashiyans attempt to not just blame a sore point on a sound one, but even if not to isolate russia, but to try to exclude russia. From a leading role in the negotiation process and weaken russian influence in the southern caucasus, what do you think will actually happen, today the ministry of Foreign Affairs made a statement in this regard, based on the totality of what we heard from Prime Minister pashinyan, from the totality of those actions , which undertaken by official yerevan, based on the totality of what you correctly said and noted, leads to , in general. Unfortunately, we see where all this comes from, because the close relations of this very team, which now represents policy in armenia, close ties with the west, as is now clear from official statements of the Prime Minister of armenia, were aimed at a complete turnaround of this country, and we are now. The second very important point is mediation efforts, again, there are alternative, we showed what the mediation of our country can lead to, in the most difficult, in the most dramatic moments in recent years, in the open phase of the conflict, we used all possible influence, first of all, of course, the president of our country, then our economic, humanitarian bloc, diplomacy got involved and so on, in order to not only stop the, well, war , what can i say, its not just a crisis, there was a war, but also to create a real program for development and a return to stability in the region, it was a plan, it there was a program, the stepbystep implementation of which would lead to the normalization of the situation and the most interesting thing is that this is how it started, but then we saw how, on the one hand in the public sphere, we heard assurances that they intend to carry out everything that they signed up for, on the other hand, they went over to their western patrons, this is the point to which their western patrons brought them, this is primarily brussels, washington, and, well, paris, what can we say, now we see everything. Hostage to this situation, i think everyone understands, official yerevan, this team, made its own people, as much as russia helped , the citizens of armenia, the armenian side, i cant even give you an example of who else we helped so much, economically, humanitarianally, politically, saved, literally saved, and moreover, it is very important, at the cost. Of their own lives, at the cost of the lives of their own peacekeepers, more than once, and they were ready for the same and further, because there was a concrete result, but what the team of Prime Minister pashinyan did, you now show on screens, they trusted how trusted before them, and as i, unfortunately, think, will trust, after them, in different parts of the world, many who believe that abroad. They will be helped in the form of the west, the west will lead them somewhere to absolute prosperity, just using some magic tools, there are no magic tools, there is labor, work , responsibility, compliance with everything that was promised and what your signature is under, and no, remember, like fairy tales and about cinderella, and no connections can make the leg small and the heart big. Same here most of all, no amount of paris and brussels will be able to resolve the crisis overnight, which has been accumulating for decades, but a really effective plan, a program was on the table, only until the moment when official yerevan began, i dont know, to fidget, rush around, shy away. Call it what you want, completely change what you signed up for, in the hope, apparently, that now someone somewhere in the west will take out a magic wand, in an instant, everything will be resolved, it doesnt happen, free cheese is only in a trap, maria, thank you very much, it was very interesting conversation, i think you have identified not only the problems, but you have also shown that a solution is possible, when it comes to what happened at the General Assembly, you have already managed to find these solutions, in the case of nagornokarabakh, a lot of work remains to be done, but unfortunately, i must say that not everything, not everything that one would like to do, can be done when the government of one of the parties, in general, without even indicating its real goals, wants to go towards some other path, but i am with i agree with you, this path is not theirs will lead to nothing good, and i think that russia will definitely turn to mediation, and in the very near future. 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