To think through them. There is a degree of uncertainty, there is always a plan b, and if plan b does not work, there must be a plan c, well, at least a plan on how to get back home, all people who can be called travelers and adventure lovers have this. Any adventure is the search for meteorites is excitement, you will find it, you wont find it, you will be lucky with the weather, you will be unlucky with the weather, but even if you are not lucky, we are still ready for plan b. Or maybe an adventure without 35, cosmic. Cold, meteorites, a man sits in a chair and thinks, his thought can become an adventure, i think, yes, if you do analytical work you come across an idea, what if, that is ask a question for which there is no obvious answer and which suggests several possible solutions hypothetical, that is, a puzzle, a puzzle is a mental adventure, its excitement, uhhuh, uhhuh. Scientists are often adventurous people who come across some solution through hard work in mental work and try to test these solutions, right hypothesis, wrong hypothesis, this is also an adventure, because when you test something, you may come across something. Something unpredictable, but in general all these adventures, they are needed more by someone, the hero himself, who swims, flies and so on, i think, i think this is mutual. Mutually, why because there are people who love adventure, and there are people who dont really like adventure, but they need to get some data, these people are gathering, some astronauts or workers of polar stations, antarctic, they say, we are ready to go for 39 lands, they are told, you shouldnt just go, you should also bring benefit, but in fact they all want it, and the cosmonauts, the explorers, themselves want to bring benefit, so its a symbiosis, man, again, going back to the beginning, man who doesnt like adventure, he will never go there, of course everyone loves to read about adventures, even those who are afraid to go somewhere, why, because he himself seems to turn into a hero, and why are so few people who read zhelvern and other adventure authors, so few end up in a squad of astronauts or. What stops people . Fear, lack of money . It could be fear , trite, it could be selfdoubt, well, maybe a person definitely wont succeed and wont even try, by the way, this is the secret of the failure of so many. It could be and the health of those who try, they cannot for some formal reasons, education, health, a person wants to try, but he does not have the necessary qualities in order to formally go into space or to an antarctic station. There could probably be everyday reasons, but financial reasons in general are possible on adventures, well, let alone getting rich, at least supporting a family . I know that i am absolutely sure, based on my communication with polar explorers and cosmonauts, that the people who go on these expeditions in space, to the antarctic, these are people who definitely dont go there for money , well, they cant support their family, the goal is cosmonauts , yes, members of the antarctic expedition, i think so too, yes, thats. But the risks that, uh, are in these expeditions, they, of course, probably do not cover the finances with which they are provided, well, you had a delicious flight , you went to antarctica, where next, after all, what are your immediate plans while preparing for the next flight into space, thats all yet, space flight is a definite responsibility and it cannot be said that you can thoughtlessly rush into some. Expeditions , because this is a risky thing, the most important priority is still preparation for a flight into space, and then, well, once again you fly to the iss, in the distant future , i dont know, youre going to fly or to the moon, god forbid, and what else, what kind of dreams do you have, if you really let go of dreams, like uh, we love, and its actually very right to dream, otherwise of course, this depths, and the depth of the oceans, because they have been little explored, is also underground space, these are the poles, it is quite possible that there are some places that are less, much less extreme, but much more interesting, for example, i participated in one expedition in the eastern Sayan Mountains several years ago, and it was an expedition to find new caves of karst cavities, and this is an extraordinary feeling when you discover a new completeness, a new cave, you go there, find traces of the life of some cave animals, and you understand that you are the first person to appear here, who saw with your own eyes, before you no one. Knew about this, no one saw this, its an amazing feeling, even if its a small discovery, well, we re unfortunately coming to the end, so i want some i dont know, life advice for those who are watching us , how to become a participant in an adventure, while bringing benefits, and a huge number of different expeditions that require participants, in fact, i ended up on an antarctic expedition, well, relatively by accident, and i had mountaineering experience, that is, what i had necessary, that is, there is some background needed have some kind of background, yes you need to have some kind of background absolutely , either a scientific background or some kind of tourist background and a background in extreme activities, because an expedition is always an uncomfortable place, an unsafe place, i walked through mountains, through forests, through deserts , i want, i want to bring something new to the world. You can start with the simplest, just an ordinary participant, and i actually participated as an ordinary participant, despite the fact that i have an astronaut background, but when you go on an expedition, you were in expeditions on uninhabited islands, i was there as an ordinary field worker collecting samples, but this required several skills, this is a mountaineering skill, this is the skill of working with scientific equipment, that is, you need to be able to take aseptically. Samples, all these knowledge accumulated in the fact that i was simply offered to go on an expedition, but also, probably, everyone has some kind of background that can be useful on certain expeditions, but still, from the point of view of the family, well, most people have wife, you have two children, you say, no, i wont go with you, heres to sochi, ill go to the distant mountains to look for untouched islands, i dont know what, how to. Combine it, well, come to an agreement, if you dont go, everything will be lost , no, im talking about the fact that its always, well, not easy, because thats what a family is, that you have to take care of it and be with it, but nevertheless, people who go on expeditions can live without this activity both the spouse and children cannot, they understand perfectly well that this person cannot sit still, well, like me, at first it was not easy, but then, i just realized that i couldnt be let go, thank you very much, unfortunately, we have to finish, there was a podcast with you , schrodingers cat, and i am its host, the chief editor of the Popular Science magazine schrodingers cat, Grigory Tarasevich and my cohost, very smart, calm cat bari, thank you, thank you, sergey, thank you. Hello, im larisa guzeeva, this is a podcast letter, my guest today is the honored artist, director, artistic director of the practice theater, maria brusnikina. Hello maria, im so happy that you came, and we also have this theme, Andrey Vasilievich mikhkov. What year did you enroll and graduate . Here i am over the years. Bad, but it was a long time ago, the film irony of fate had just come out, he was a super popular person, and some kind of god for us, for everyone, here you enroll in a course, it was a course by Oleg Nikolaevich efremov, Andrei Vasilyevich mikhkov was a teacher and he too i rarely recruited, but he was a teacher, not a leader, no, the next course was where natasha negoda was, he was the leader there, and we entered, he worked, he, pokrovskaya, worked as teachers, recruited the main one. Efremov, but we had two groups, we were clearly divided, one group was mikhkovskaya, the other pokrovskaya, i ended up in the group of Andrei Vasilyevich mikhkov, i was incredibly happy about it, of course, because he is a teacher. From god, i believe that this is one of my main lucks, that i met this man as a teacher, there are just some people who shaped you, of course, andrey vasilyevich, here is one of them, but the truth that when you came to visit him, he insisted that the students they called him andrey naty, well, we were already in our fourth year, we already had such, already quite friendly relations, and yes, of course, he insisted, especially with the guys, with dim brusnik and rom kozyk. He was still a completely young man, now that i understand, at that time he seemed, oh, generally soft, but in fact, he was even almost 40 something, yes, that is, asya voznesenskaya, some kind of completely girl, she came to us in her second year, with some kind of unimaginable haircut, as i remember now, she came in like this in some kind of unimaginable skirt, well, just girl, yes, but of course, for us they were teachers, but he, yes, he just consciously wanted that yes, guys, i call it, there was already such contact, some kind of human close, they were friends, but not me, i always, very much him i somehow appreciated it, its understandable, its clear that all the girls were in love with myagkovo, its understandable, despite the fact that i was already married, there i was 18 years old and managed to get married, this is completely different, to a classmate, behind kusnikin, may he rest in heaven, but this is some other kind of love, this is falling in love with a person endless, because there is a sense of humor, well , you know, andrey vasivich will perfectly share my impressions. Yes, the sense of humor is off the charts, wisdom, intelligence, and some kind of amazing amazing person, he was very modest, you know, its somehow unnaturally modest for an artist to have such popularity, thats when i filmed with him, but hes my mothers age , and i couldnt even imagine that an actor of such popularity, such magnitude, tried to be invisible to everyone, so i never saw him i saw that he was there telling jokes or he, yes, well, thats how they gathered , georgy zheburkov was filming with us, who was always telling jokes, some stories, everyone gathered around him, Andrei Vasilyevich was always somehow separate, and when his wife arrived, the two of them went somewhere, and it was so organic, it wasnt so that it didnt irritate, didnt raise any questions, well, you just looked, ska yes, youre right, its incredibly not just modest, but very closed person, absolute introvert, very a strange position in this in this profession, indeed, yes, there are, as a rule, some other people, a different way of existence , no, it is closed indefinitely, but it opened up, probably, with us, with the students, these ours opened up all sorts of night gatherings there, at their home, unlike you students, Andrei Vasilyevich, sasiy never invited journalists to the house, and thats why we are lucky. Yes, but that was precisely the period when we were students, then, then less often, then it was quite difficult, but later it was quite difficult to ask to visit, they completely closed themselves off, as if they closed the house, but how do you explain this to yourself, why they have such a closed lifestyle, there was some kind of selfsufficiency in them, just the two of them, yes, there was some kind of rejection, perhaps, of what was happening around, yes, that is, Andrei Vasilyevich always, no, then, when perestroika began, later, age, already when, and after the departure of Oleg Nikolaevich efremov, yes, already some kind of life was so closed, but what about they were at home, what kind of life they had, this too, we were here there as students, we ended up in this apartment on kutuzovsky prospekt, also very fashionable, stylish, so i remember that the walls were white, few people did that then, yes, everything is hung with paintings by andrei vasilyovich, he is also an amazing artist, simply amazing, very hes also strange, despite the fact that here, too, we are talking about this modesty , such closeness. Intelligence, intelligence, and the pictures are crazy, simply crazy, his vision of the world is so, so colorful, distorted, somehow peculiar perception, thats all concerns portraits, he has a lot of portraits, there is Oleg Nikolaevich efremova, and he is also a cartoonist, yes, yes, thats all, very much like saying, well, not unrealistic art, thats for sure, everything is covered with his paintings, very stylish, very fashionable house, very comfortable, anastasilenna. There was an amazing hostess and i remember , its amazing, she loved it, when we came, we were received at the highest level, that is, wonderful drinks, wonderful food from the market, and i remember, you remember, some incredible Little Things, and i i remember how i was assigned, and im not very economical, frankly , and i was instructed to chop parsley somewhere, and i mean, unlike you, larisa, im not very economical, i chop this parsley, its so suitable, he says, why are you doing this, i say, how and why chop the stems, tear off these Little Things and chop them , i remembered that the stems of parsley need to be removed, although i myself had no idea, that is, she is of the highest class, us always fed, treated all these nights to endless conversations, they were still very educated people. Andrei vasilyevich read a lot and some all the time you know a stream of names and you notice, remember what you need to read, what you definitely need to know, what you need to navigate, that is, these were the teachers, well, not only in profession, but although in the profession, for me, of course, Andrei Vasilyevich thats how to say, he shaped me, yes, he helped me, because i was very afraid of Oleg Nikolaevich efremova in general. With him and he, because he was for us some kind of authority, just crazy, with him they could exist normally, here are the guys who were older, there was kozabur again , we had such a team, yes, yes, we were all classmates, friends, oh, there were all girls, we were little after school, and of course we were afraid of him, well we had a student who was not afraid of anything, but she seemed to come later, she was also yours, also ours, yes, but she seemed to come to us later after the academician, and there was incredible fear, with megkov, since i was still in his group, i understood that he treated me very well, i felt it, and of course he he, he was incredible with me, i hated classes there, but i could have done these things , and something i didnt want, didnt work out, and i said everything, i wont, left, he kicked me out of classes, i cried , that means she was kicked out, it was a very funny incident when my classmate and i finally came up with, well, what is tut, it means you came in, something happened, and you changes, changes, i say nikolaevka wonderful actress of the theater on malaya brony, now sasha says, lets do it, here we go with you into the audience, i hit you in the face, you cry, and we leave, heres the event , and we entered, i kicked her in the face, shes sobbing, and mikhkov says this, well, now lets do the opposite, and im very good i remembered, that is, he raised us like that, so he helped me a lot, because in my second year he took an acting job with me, it was tsvetaevas blizzard and they gave me the role of an old woman, it says tsvitaevas old woman is full of life. Century, i cried a lot, why they gave me an old woman, i was terribly worried that the girl had all the heroics, and im an old woman, so hes with me in this poems, as tsvetaeva understands, he was very tormented with me, because i understood everything inside, but i couldnt reach that, that volume, that breadth that he needed, and i remember how he was already jumping in front of me showed me everything, just with his hands, everything as it should be, at some point, apparently, he told me, well, heres what else i have to do for you. To play it, and for some reason i felt so ashamed, i took it and i played, i had an a in skill, but it was myagkov, he turned some kind of lever in me that i began to open up, to open up or something, so he was very patient, delicate, but i had no head, in general i had zero brains, literally at all , when we were filming with him, and i understood that he was old, well, my mothers age, and how well, he wasnt brilliant, he didnt look after him. Of course, everyone always looks at young artists, Andrei Vasilyevich, no , i wasnt afraid of him, but i always got ready in front of him, so he somehow made me strict with his presence, so he was strict, and he could do something this is to hiss, help, in some moments, to suggest, wow, yes, yes, yes, i remember what a good word , strict, he also stricted us, for example, we were not allowed to laugh loudly, because. Here you are sitting there, reacting at someone who is playing something, and hahaha, well, so suddenly , such a hard look, yes, that means you cant, you cant express your emotions, there he hated bowing, yes, that is, these people, when the bows are being built, everyone bows for a long time while listening to the music, such a separate piece, he thought that it was just absolutely unintelligent, they came out, they bowed modestly and left, what are you saying, and now they just put on a whole performance with these bows, yes, but all this remains in us, and you are your student there, yes. You always pass on some of these things from them, from him there were two words, but for him it was just the biggest curse word, dont amikoshonstvo, i still dont know what it is, and nekabotinstvo, these are two curse words, but what are these, you need to look up the dictionaries, heres nekabatinstvo and nevekoshonstvo these are two of them annd vasiliovs curses, because he had impeccable taste, here existence on the set, and look, he played some kind of losers, as they say today , and then. Who do we want to play at the institute ititus, prostitutes, a drunkard, and even Homeless People because its bright, its easy, thats how he played this same loser in an Office Romance and in the irony of fate, the alcoholic is not an alcoholic, but a very drunk person, but everything is according to such a top rice and he didnt go too far anywhere because he didnt play anywhere, its all no more no me truth, yes, well, the organics are amazing, amazing, thats why its also very its strange that such an intelligent, apparently gentle, modest person, and such a powerful acting nature, yes, characteristic, with such a spirit, yes, yes, you know, i regret something, so fate brought me together with such personalities, and it s