There is this knowledge, and there are different types of it. Different, different, different facets, different directions, well, there is a lot of yoga there, and there is ashtanga kundalia, yoga flow, yoga nidra, taichitaiz and so on, these are all some facets of yoga, so we came up with a story that we are a social movement, where we bring all facets of yoga to places where there is no yoga, and this is all for a voluntary donation. Yeah, like, so as much as possible and remove all the obstacles and bring this knowledge to people as much as possible, we have, in short, a bunch of people there, just a few thousand people there have gone through our movement, a lot of teachers have passed, were doing yoga, were doing meditation, yes, yes, yes, were doing enlightenment, no there is no more alcohol in your life, and ive been leading a Healthy Lifestyle for over 20 years, and you also dont eat meat . Yes, there was a time when i was a vegetarian for 8 years, uh, now im on an excursion into the world of meat, but something tells me that ill probably go back to in the near future, maximum sin with a fish, Something Like that, i still know from time to time what i do, i starve, imagine, the Biggest Record i had, i went hungry for 42 days, didnt eat anything for 42 days, yes, thats it sitting, alive, those years on tour, do you remember them, stirred up something with fans, of course, of course, i still actually remember, i dont know, somehow you can imagine, it sunk into my soul, i was in volgograd, and after the concert she comes up, the girl is alone, shes just the cutest, with an ideal figure, with big beautiful eyes, with. Well, just an angel, in short, i just cant forget her, can you imagine, uh , how many times ive been to volgograd, thats how i wanted it, so that after the concert , uh, theres some woman there, the girl said, but remember, but it was me, i was just waiting , can you imagine this kind of magic, and i didnt try to find her anymore, damn it, i dont know what happened, yes, maybe i didnt write it down at all. On the phone , or, i dont know how it happened, but you can be found on social networks, lets connect hearts, you can turn to the camera, heres your camera, to this volgograd girl, just tell her everything you think about her, and so that she finds you, precious, you are my woman, uh, that means i would really like you in some then she found me on social networks , and somehow she let me know, as if she made herself known, because its fleeting. This moment, what happened between us, it, it was so cool that i cant forget to this day , so if you can, show up, great, these are the moments our life consists of, this is a podcast 20 years later my guest was andrei tsyganov, aka mister small, aka andrei moloy, aka goga , aka just a small one, at first they called you a small one, and then the guys, why did they call you mister . No, they just call many small, yes, if its just a small shkket, its already small, so, but to add, so to speak, solidity to the scene after all, man, so we decided that it would be mistomala, be that as it may, thats all it was wonderful and as it should have been, we are not destroying the space of a temporary cantina, we are podcasts 20 years later, i am the host konstantin mikhailov, mr. Small was my guest, we make podcasts, we go to podcasts, yo. Funky, mami, move your legs, funkita mamita, bonita, funky, mami, move your legs, flankita stress, zumba and pilates, misto molito, your rito instructor. Rhythmikos, aerobics, funky gymnasito for sexy momosi, puno dostres, zumbey pilates, mista malito , your instructo, rhythmikos, aerobics, flanks gymnasito, for sexy momosita, funky mami, kick your legs, funky ta mami. Makita, chipita, pusita, shaved, paquita, tapita, molita, conchita, panita, chiquita, cusita, zabrita, paquita, tapita, malita, conchita, funky, mami, move your legs, fanquitamomita, bonita, flanks, mami, move your legs, flanks, hello friends, this is the podcast life of the wonderful, im with you, its host, writer alexey varlamov, my guests today are cinema and literature, the wonderful director Alexander Veledinsky and the writer, public figure, Sergei Shargunov. And the reason for our wonderful meeting, thank you for coming, was the release of the film 1993, based on the novel by Sergei Shargunov and, in fact, today is about it novel, about this film, about this time, i want to talk to you, lets start with you, sergey, in fact, the theme of 1993 in literature is reflected in one way or another, thats what comes to mind, well, this yuri bondarevs novels bermuda. Institute, his novel eclipse of mars, what else comes to mind, boris evseev, renounced hymns, and here is yours, Leonid Borodin had it, Leonid Borodin had it, leonidovich, by the way, and dwarf cranes , from vasily belov, from belov, yes, of course, from vasily belov, here your novels. Eduard lemov, well, look, all these writers are writers, so to speak, of an older generation than you, writers who encountered these events at a completely different age, and you, who were then a youth, a teenager, why, why, that you were a thirteenyearold boy, ninetythree years old, we are children of the terrible years of russia, unable to forget anything, remember, like in the bloc, i belonged to the generation that matured early, everything that happened and. Those events, in my opinion, were to a certain extent turning points in the modern history of russia and the first year is not a turning point . And this is all interconnected, of course, this is such a special time, but it is interesting that the people who defended this building together in the ninetyfirst year turned out to be opponents 2 years later, and it is characteristic that many young guys, either my peers, or a little older, those who defended democracy in ninetyone became defenders in ninety three, and among them there were those who died, for example, i rushed to the barricades in. The first and came already in ninetythree, in ninetyone they didnt let me in . Parents are not they let me in, in ninetythree they didnt let me in either, but i had already run away from home, it was all taken very seriously, painfully, but besides everything else, it seems to me that a certain gaze of a writer was already emerging, because when i got there, i tried to remember it all, to record it in your mind, and you were so crazy, what were you doing there on those barricades, well, first of all . You are such a witness, a chronicler, it was very interesting for me to communicate with people, to understand what they are like, i remember this krasnoprestinskaya station, ordinary people in the metro are completely indifferent to what is happening, and one person in shabby clothes, screaming comrades do not forget to get out, and how many people shied away from him, i go out, i see a woman with a mm vat of borscht, who was detained by the police, she is trying to sneak this borscht to the besieged barricades and its big. The pan tips over and a bright red slurry spills across the marble floor of krasnopresnenskaya, you knew about it , i told you about it, i think so too, its just that they asked, i didnt tell you, well, maybe there will be more series, no, probably not me then, well, theres a lot more, and the smoke of the fires, and the faces of the barricades, and completely different flags , an inflorescence of flags, arguing within the crowd, someone turns away from one speaker, someone. Towards him turns around with hope, completely different chants, completely different flags, and you memorized all this with your young memory , the society for developing the theory of youth happiness, there were christian democrats, cadets, anarchists, nationalists, such an absolutely amazing gatepark in the center of the city, wonderful, what are your memories alexander . And my memories are that i started on october 1, im not from moscow, and on october 1 we started studying at the higher courses for screenwriting. And directors and lived in a hostel in gik, this is galushkina street, next to mira avenue, from the sixteenth floor, which means we saw armored personnel carriers coming from our hostel, kostankina, and we, we lived in the same room, lyosha sidarov, igor porublev and i , this is the entire future brigade, who made the brigade, lyosha is the director, and we went after these armored personnel carriers, kostankina and saw all this with our own eyes, so to speak, we took part. Believed that we, novice filmmakers, should, of course, be in the thick of things, at that moment you lay under bullets there, they shot at us, reporters were killed before my eyes, all this happened, yes, and you can say that you as a director in a sense, they were also born there, of course, then i didnt think, then it was scary, there was real shooting, because armored personnel carriers were driving around, announcing that if you dont disperse in 45 minutes, in 30, in 10 minutes, we will open fire, who didnt believe, its all in the film, when ask, i was more focused on the novel on the chronicle, because we came when ask, part of ask, what is this, this is the Technical Center in ostankino, opposite the main building, thats where we crashed cars, we, we didnt see it with our own eyes, so i could only rely on the chronicle of roman seryozh and the eyewitnesses, but we tried to do everything exactly as it happened there, and when the first shots were already fired, tracing upward. And then we went down, we fell, crawled there, that is, on the ground, then my worldview changed, forever, but how did it happen that you read shargunos novel, and seryozha and i are friends, we met for 20 years in saratov at the trial of eduard limonov, we are friends and communicate, and seryozha gave me this book 10 years ago, well, when it came out, 20 years, not even 10 years have passed, yes , i read it, i always knew that this was my topic, ninetythree, then your geographer just came out, yes, the geographer just came out, yes, i i looked and thought, how is everything . The film is based on the novel by Sergei Shargunov, and why motives . Still, cinema and literature are absolutely the essence of different things, of course i think literature comes first, cinema is based on literature, even if it is original, but the script is still written, i just have to let everything pass through myself, which means im starting to. Its a fantasy, especially here im a participant in the events, so i already made, i dont remember, four or five film adaptations, starting with pietsukha with the first short film, limnov, then limnov, then ivanov, alexey ivanov, then prilepin, the monastery series, and yes , this is the fifth incarnation, it turns out for me, with whom i did not communicate with the writers, i immediately warned what i would do based on the motive. And not once did anyone have any objections, everything, all the writers, told me about the same thing, that the book is already good, if you make a bad film your problems, if you make a good one, this is only a plus for us, writers, so i think this i mean, im very pleased with the film, and i immediately understood that it would be a separate independent world, but its all the more interesting to observe those rapper points that are in the novel and see, as it were, such a parallel the life of your heroes or see the film embodiment of certain moves, for example, when the tsoi are singing on the opposite barricades, and how the camera, yes, goes into the sky and is transferred from tverskaya street to the ostankino pond, and now you came up with it, wrote it, now you see it already embodied on the screen, by the way, this episode is very important, in principle, this is something that should, should bring people together, but what is happening, it seems to me, is that in something important we coincide, because thought and books and films, how scary dehumanization is, how its scary when a split occurs among people, especially those closest to them, and this is not made up, we know thousands of such families, and then and now the archetypal story is absolutely yes, the heroes are not some kind of activists, these are ordinary people, its just that harsh reality has invaded them quite a quiet ordinary life, so read a book, watch a movie, compare in favor of one or the other, but seryozha and i seem to be happy with each other, right . Oh yes, well , i must say that it happened Something Like this for me, i was sitting while watching this film next to pavel bosinsky and i kept asking basinsky, pasha, and this was in the book, and this was, because i must admit, i had not read the book at that time, im guilty before you seryozha, that i read this book already after i watched this film, because i suddenly became wildly interested in what is in the film , what is in the book, when i read the book, i realized that it is, of course, very different, very different, and this interesting, yes, interesting, how did you work with this literary material, yes, interesting, how did you this novel develops such a canvas, such a saga, really a family one, but still, returning to basinsky , there have already been a lot of reviews of the film, mostly positive, in general it seems to me that this is a great success, on which i can sincerely congratulate you the entire film crew, but nevertheless, the question hovers are you still for the whites or for the reds . It seems to me that as long as we ask ourselves this question, we will live, not very well, here you are, a former teacher of marxismlenism, are you for the reds or for the whites . Im for private property, and so do i, but i doubt it, i want to figure it out, because i am for justice, i am for the people, we will apparently always discuss this question with each other, meaning that white and red are completely different, they are not necessarily colors, the bolsheviks are there too liberals there, nothing like that, yes, but as long as we ask this question, we will not achieve happiness, happiness cannot be achieved, only a madman is happy, but can we then conclude from this that such a super idea, a super task of your film is to make people stop asking this question so that they did you ask any other questions . This is mercy, this is very banal and simple, this is mercy, sympathy, empathy, as they say now, humanity, humaneness, you know, when they ask me who i am for, i am for the murdered, so i want them not to be forgotten, i like the fact that alexander resurrected, left two children alive, they were in fact a lover, a girl, a poetess, bart, natasha petukhova. Her fiance alexey shumsky, a young engineer, they died under bullets, i want there to be at least a symbolic monument to the murdered, in fact we need a real one, this is our common tragedy. When they ask for someone, why cant one be for the peaceful coexistence of different forces, why there couldnt be competition between different ideas and people, rivalry within the framework of the law of the revolution of power, this is said by Sergei Shargunov, who is now in his 40s, i did the same then i thought that when we went to these barricades there was already an idea that i was going against the violation of the constitution, and not more for the white house, it turns out . Against breaking the law, i was in favor of preserving civilized competition on both sides, i was in favor of simultaneous reelections taking place in 1993, for this, and i, already thirteen years old, understood this, but you said that your worldview changed after these events, what did you mean . Well, im just like a character, i gave this to the character victor, and the main character, i also once posted with yeltsin, for yeltsin, in the ninetyfirst year, yes, naturally, we all longed for this, i was luckier , than to our hero, because in ninety three i entered the higher course and just i just changed my life there 180, yes, here, here we imagine a person who longs for a new life, democracy, freedom of speech, everything, everything, everything, it all seems to come. At the same time they remove the ground from under your feet and say now live as you want, and the person is not ready, and there were a lot of them, and they were deceived, the reforms were carried out, apparently wrong, no one thought about the people, he says in a taxi, no one explained to people, and no one needs people, red and white, of course, the drama is in total intolerance, in the unwillingness to take into account another person, and many believe that this is some kind of historical curse, that all this. Has very deep, strong roots in history, i believe that then there was a very serious chance, a chance for a complex but compromise, and i believe that in 1993 there was the most severe trauma for the subsequent time, believe me, i still had many questions in relation to a significant part of those who were from the outside the defenders of the white house, but i believe in diversity, i am against defamation and mythologization, in fact its scary, both sides are looking at each other friend already through the sight, everything was split , not only the families there, but the country was actually split in half, and the way out of this was through blood, well, in general , in a sense, we still have not split in such a semantic postscript of the event ended, the split continues and, unfortunately, those events about the fact that there is the right of the strong, and this was , in general, the destruction presented by perestroika, because people. Already believe in politicians, in general in their civic capabilities, take an interest in what is happening, they understood , what will influence what is beyond our power, here in in this sense, after we lay under bullets, and i realized that the tanks would pass in any way, you cant create an idol for yourself, these are also commandments, thats right, i remember, i lived nearby, the glass was clinking, but they are commandments, everything responded pain, i must say that my dad is a priest, and we went, a few days later, he served at a memorial service, i saw these endless traces of bullets, everything torn apart, a sobbing mother, i then met a lot of parents, in general, this everything has become such a personal story, even in our home the barricades smelling of fires were hiding, well, of course, it was right to shelter the bison, models tomorrow after the program ill steal time if stealing is your thing, sometimes you wonder, besides your family, friends, children, does anyone else need you, for an actor its for the viewer, your role influences the viewer, in order to do something, you need to be either desperate from birth, so that. This may be the most important piece, i have emotions that arise in this year, there is simply no etching fear, please check that the seat belts are fastened correctly or no, the theater is necessary for the artist, it is vital, because professional growth occurs in the theater, i built the moskovensky theater in the image of a snuff box, i will not blow the budget, this is the very theater that i love very much. I love conventional theaters a year ago, vladimir sergeevich, the kid suggested that i take a course in geek again, sit down at the desk again , talk about it