Assads allies russia and iran are there groups opposed to us and are meeting in the saudi capital riyadh follows as a surprise visit to russia on monday. Those are your headlines the news continues after the stream. You stand the differences. And the similarities of cultures of class to. Aljazeera. I. Entirely the emotion. It was. The way it. Was. In the if it was. A. It is a if. It was a hole in the it. It is the. I am having ok im going the strain i went out is there i dont youre falling on you to do comment the stream team is that they were trying to get your comments on to the show now what you saw was in barber a speaker of Parliament Jacob medina on tuesday november the twenty first announcing the resignation of the now former president Robert Mugabe facing intense pressure from both the public and his own ruling zanu p. F. Party the ninety three year old mcgarvey stepped down just one week after the army placed him under house arrest of course the conversation about the end of mugabes thirty seven tenure is buzzing online of a closer look at that his make up allow a buzzing might be an understatement when it comes to this story from the high hopes of saturdays solidarity march to being disappointed by mugabes speech on sunday and if he defied calls to resign many zimbabweans are now openly celebrating the resignation. Of the only president theyve ever known a saddam god his departure from office ignited a huge discussion online and these are just some of the hashtags zimbabweans have been using in the last few days to share their stories from the streets of harare from save them to mind the zimbabwes two mugabi must go and it was news continues to break a number of people have weighed in on what look obvious departure means to them including a zen o. P. s parody a cowed our jima gobby has resigned the new era has begun the mori writes i never thought i would live to see the day mugabi resigned history has been written and not all zimbabweans are celebrating though many sweetheart writes mugabe is no longer our president im not happy about it that man protected us for years others were forecasting the road ahead driver and news publisher in zimbabwe says he was emotional adding that he also never thought i would see this day this is a stepping stone towards zimbabwe we want but it wont be easy thanks and he can with us now our roving africa correspondent who room a task in harare mr henry there are times when reporting gets personal you all as involved when these last three day what is happening like sharing this story with us at aljazeera. I still cant believe it following events the girl having imported in this country for so long having been born here grown up here when school here is still surreal im still struggling to just call him Robert Mugabe youve always called him the president understand he has had been such a big part of every zimbabwean life you know from the policies that we grew up and from from the way the family ran the country every zimbabwean was affected and i was thinking about how there were good and bad days and how it is almost sad that now hes being remembered for all the things that were wrong in this country and the economy the corruption the nepotism but there was a time and i remember the time that i was growing up here education i got probably the best education you can even ask for here he pushed through an education for policy he wanted basically blacks involved in to be educated because remember in the colonial years in white minority rule blacks were given any theory education and he really pushed that and in terms of land i mean yes the way it was done was chaotic everyone knows that but people understand that you couldnt have a system where a white minority had most of the good land so people did say in that sense thank you thank you for trying to redistribute light unfortunately things in a horribly horribly wrong its its been emotional it has been a really emotional theyve been really hard trying to to separate yourself and be objective as a reporter reporting on the story ive tried ive tried my best but it has been really really emotional reporting on the scene the highs and lows this countrys been to the seeing a great man in school you look up to him and think of him as your grandfather you know what is what is he doing today what what is he. Doing for the country what hes done for the country and its just sad to think just started to go downhill i was surprised that he went down this way im one of those who never thought hed go mugabe was have become entrenched in your life and now that hes gone. I think i still call him i still cant believe me. Thank you feel personal take on what hes been reporting today from harare zimbabwe we will keep an eye on your reporting on aljazeera english and also if youre watching your following online you can follow her room at twitter and shes at my taseff thanks very well joining us now from harare to discuss what the future of zimbabwe might look like without mugabe at the helm bright matonga is a former spokesman for the governing zanu p. F. Party as well as mugabes government mcdonalds the money guy is a political analyst guy is also up analytical analyst and linda my study there is a human rights activists she also hopes to represent what are essential as a member of Parliament Welcome to the stream everyone and its involvements what an amazing day it has been for you right you should share with us where you were when you heard the news that president Robert Mugabe was stepping down. And. Sitting about what was it. One of. The most. When you did the march studios i was the one on the mike. House to speak. So i followed this whole process i went to parliament i wanted to make sure that you know we you know. I wish that you know hed done this in a dignified manner so thats why were pushing hard you know we mobilized people so that he can see cells and i was happy with the speaker read that you know i robot garbage do here by ten am i just went to well it was. But i can say thank you mr president thank you for the more than forty years that you from preindependence postindependence there are a lot of good memories you know you are fearless. Youre go getter thats unfortunate things had to happen the way that happened but but today is. Re celebrity the good the bad in the ugly story and relatively unfortunately Mama Mama Mama just messed everything up for us but while father was such a role model Education Empowerment those are things you know that we the good things that i can remember was there were bad things also you know doesnt do bad things is part of the history of the country a good good and bad thing but today is another day just for hippie that hes decided to spend time. Maybe to write his memoirs you know but were not the only ones you are not the only one feeling like that you mention independence i want to bring up the three from eugene he says this is a second independence for zimbabwe since gaining independence in one thousand nine hundred eighty we have endured the woes of mugabes reign hashtags mugabi resigned its the end game to a regime mcdonalds you see here hes treating us as an Independence Day is that how youre feeling or whats going through your head. Well. Well i think that the political moment that definitely different i wasnt that dependent with no basis for comparison but but but if i was too much of what was happening in the next meeting which is the point that i was born out of us from but a lot of the feelings that were having a similar to what people think but also what makes this situation a bit different its that mixed feelings i think that when colonialism ended. Thirty two people it was a spiritual experience about it but at this point given what i just talked about some of the things that i talked about they are mixed emotions so we are just typical and we have to. Succumb to pressure but they are also some things that. People associate. And i think that that also. Makes students with used budgets constant but thats one group of people who are not a group of people like myself. But mr quinn said was right but. It was that what is happening now is. That when we begin to think that the old good discipline is. What is its out of this government but. If that is so well you have to see the president gore. All right. Let me share this if you count your political analyst there are lots of political analysts on twitter as well that will share this tweet with you when i go out is a former Vice President and she went ahead of zimbabwe and military they all worked in this together and one of them will be in line to the throne yet both men were former allies of mcgarvey on a possible seventy year old doing now see a pattern so really looking forward here looking ahead is it possible that there could be more the same tile or is this really a big milestone for symbolic. First of all. I think its important that everyone recognizes that this is a moment yes in this article moment however what we should be celebrating is the activation of the constitution the constitution that was in that twenty thirty its now coming into play the military which i think my head off to conducted the operation under the guidance of the constitution and even as we are where we are today because of what the constitution provides for. And therefore im celebrating a moment where the constitution has come to life constitutionalism its come to life a precedent being set for the future. In that light. While everyone is euphoric everyone is very happy understandably maybe perhaps some people are. I would also say that that euphoria nine hundred eighty is what got us to where we are today people forgot to focus on institution and focus on emotions and those emotions were embodied in robert. Robert mugabe became the system. And thats. Where we are today and therefore i would rather. Recommend that people focus on the institution that we have to build from the moment is great but tomorrow we have a lot of work out how do you do that what is focus on a situation that actually means. Today where shes leaving heading into wednesday what is a wednesday. Morning ask. You a question who will be the president. Whos the acting president. What was going to be happening i dont think. Those are the questions that we should be addressing right now so that tomorrow you dont find someone in a power grab a vacuum and jumped in to fill that so youre not the only one asking those questions other people watching the show live on you tube the sal hes one of them he says i hope the power vacuum here is behind the meaning mugabe doesnt cause chaos for those who will fight for power now that hes gone he goes on to ask us questions ourselves will grayson gary try to stay on politics or will she go into exile of course a lot of unknowns there bright but what do you make of what will happen next the session while linda im going to give this one to you we have a lot of people online asking about is are going to be power grabbing and what will happen to both Robert Mugabe and his wife grace mugabe when there are those questions that are on your mind as well. I dont have those questions right now because a militant reason garden was expelled from seoul appears and from politics and i didnt mean that there is any Political Parties involved with that will be able to take the stage to do what they can to their political but and mugabe has resigned which shows that she wants nothing to do with politics or to date with it was call westley didnt voluntarily but we have to court and say opposition get organized and which again onto the track and right now if theres going. To. Hear frankenstein. Tell you mentioned how the constitution was working in zimbabwe that is why president mugabe had to resign a cali boy here says to us in a strange pessimist obvious resignation should not be based on military intervention that doesnt promote democracy in africa and you say what. If if if were contrived to bring some context in. The military intervention that we saw last week when the first lady or firm of first lady now began her socalled rallies back in twenty forty before former Vice President joyce would you was expelled from. She i think grew a very big head politically although she was a political move with. Now to cut a long story short by the time that she started these rallies again in twenty sixty she particularly was offensive at one rally in last year with the. Directly attacked the military and directly attacked president under guard sometimes what was perceived to be vulgar terms and. From there she was considered a Security Threat reports were rife in both private media. In different political circles that the military were unhappy with with the discontent she was causing but yet they stayed themselves they stayed in the barracks for over two years so this is not an intervention in the in the context of seizing power i think thats a misconception what they did was. Stop what was going to be an explosive situation had she actually succeeded in taking over the Vice President let me just share the active social emotional issue this issue mouser dot com has been an indepth portrait of Robert Mugabe and his presidency this is the newly elected Robert Mugabe as we go back thirty seven years mcdonalds when you look at this picture and you look at the hope and the joy in this picture what would you say is the legacy of president mugabe. Well it certainly got there. And i think that is something that. Has been covered but when people talk about legacy its usually to both talk about one or two things that. Was tremendous and then the end. For the dispersal of the temple of the form. Of the next elections and such but at this point the way that were not. Looking element of his legacy. Is also a. Result of a country looking to seven years and was forced to leave Political Parties people and does not. Want to diminish and thats going to be a part of his of his legacy which clearly is unfortunate for many thats just. The way that the country and the championing of african causes that its called but. Also. Because its over there is it cant. Be political life. So heres another remembrance of mugabes a legacy solver on twitter says unfortunately his resignation came a little bit too late hell be remembered as a man who tried to cling on in spite of the peoples call as a gambler with faith who tried to postpone the inevitable but pushing forward a little bit and to what will happen next we got actually got this comment from a member of the opposition in d. C. Of which morgan is the president its good to told us we see the removal abu dhabi not as the end but just as the beginning of the democratization process in zimbabwe we want a total democratization of the country we want a la tour reforms that will make sure a proper and luck toral commission will be able to conduct elections that are free and fair linda what do you make about comment. When i made the comment is that it is the actual reality on the ground full of positions this is the time for opposition to regroup have focus and actually ensure that the push for electoral reforms it was for democracy to be to be a reality to zimbabwe not just the would we have suffered of the unions from unconstitutional is in we have suffered from a lot of violence nonalignment of rules of the constitution of zimbabwe which is the a very big challenge for opposition to get to penetrate in those zanu p. F. Strongholds but at the end of the day everyone has got the freedom of association and that should be allowed to associate with a part of your choice so. We actually need to regroup. As a Political Party especially the opposition. Come up. Of changing the system because at the end of the day celebrating thats who got caught is not enough because we have to sustain that we have to dealt the question still a system of corruption this is what we have a system to do to try to write. And Going Forward and doesnt back up and who wants to see it that is which as improbable as proper policies will probably get jobs what is critically important right now is to ensure that we have the system of how it went bankrupt it was not fortunate that some people inherited the Smith Machine and the smiths esteem it way of doing things and never tried to change that system Going Forwards that will to date some of the challenges that we have to start working on how do we change the system how do we transform zimbabwe interest social democratic developmental state to stop people who are just just just briefly i think that what everyone should should remember and should just accept especially the opposition circles is that if an election is called for instance in the next six months as provided for by the constitution the opposition doesnt stand and doesnt turn a chance because the euphoria that people are experiencing and expressing today. For the removal of president Robert Mugabe is the same euphoria the express of the ballot when Vice President a muslim and arab world is running for the presidency and the opposition should look look to twenty three as the next opportunity perhaps to have some space because as it. Is their. Popularity could. Yes different because we should not forget that that was not popular you can only lead the Transitional Government if we go to. The road and are going to go there if youre just trying to kill you if youre trying to keep up with us how to talk for a minute try to keep up with us linda there was referring to the Vice President who actually was fired and had to leave the country let me just bring back in bright bright you said that you were part of this movement to get rid of president mugabe your happy that he is gone what is the plan next you were sitting in Parliament Earlier today you were happy to hear about the resignation now what. Moral. Of the. You will do that and to finish the term that was supposed to finish the twenty eighth that is what is provided for in the constitution. So i think the big task for. Tonight is the people of zimbabwe we were so divided a low political alliance. So rushed out and rushed all the elections because the environment has been polluted people have memories about the election so i think its to unite people to bring even a Transitional Government. That will be. Advised. And. Just you know to take his time sit down with opposition write if you will charge. The million charge behave in charge of the military be in charge tomorrow in charge. Definitely not i think. Once the president i dont think they will rush to go away because as we speak right now. We dont seem to have a policy they all went into hiding we dont seem to have our Intelligence Department they always. Was. Accused of taking part looting of resources. So the rebuilding process is so thats why im saying we cant have elections next year because of the challenges we dont live in an Ordinance Police force in all its Intelligence Services so that i know theyll go back to the budget and maybe change uniform. Right now is this you know theres not been any looting with god well if they have whats in the. Inside before you just walk around the corner theres a policeman they take money along the road youre driving there for five stops it was just ridiculous ok but so you really have to. Macdonald entire island is such a fascinating team time in your countrys history we will continue to follow it with great interest in reporting on aljazeera english as well one of the last word to you jean who says i envision it in visit a safer in zimbabwe where more people will feel free less threatened to air their opinions are concerned governance zimbabwe where the Younger Generation will thrive in a better economy let us not be stuck in the past lets look forward to our new tomorrow and of course you can continue to follow the news about zimbabwe online at aljazeera adult com zimbabwe whats happening and also an indepth page about Robert Mugabe news thank you very much being part of the stream take a bite. To eat the earth. The new era in television news. But i wouldnt say that its a toss to do things in secret that i miss we had actually victims who had survived torture detention and saying this was the cause of my arrest if you would. 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