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Some argue the recent uprising in iran was fueled by president Hassan Rouhani economic policies this video highlights the economic grievances of some iranians but its often cissie has been clouded by reports the production was bought by irans revolutionary guards corps released just days after protests erupted reza of the National IranianAmerican Council tweeting it facts matter with little data and verifiable evidence how do we even know that iranians believe based on slogans chanted in protests malani says i am skeptical of those who have more arts is than questions about the Iran Protests others noted the irony of u. S. President donald trump tweeting his support for the protests he said ministrations travel ban prevents most iranians from entering the u. S. The protests also drummed up support from leaders who could capitalize on the antigovernment sentiment the last heir to the iranian moniker reza pahlavi. So what my message to the outside world is dont let the iranian people gone down yet again dont make the same mistakes as some of his regime before have done today the people are risking their lives for what they want is to know that you stand there starving. And the president elect of the National Council of resistance of iran who some say a controversial iranian cult shared a video praising their protest this activist linda sus or wrote in a Facebook Post we must also remember as we watch what some forty on social media activity that iranians are not a monolith so whats really fueling the protests in iran with hundreds of arrested more than twenty killed and a Leaderless Movement to we know whats behind the recent arrest here with us to discuss in iran i made him a savvy is a professor of Political Science at the university of tehran of said we have who signed that auction is a media analyst and also nygaard sabi is a journalist and commentator who also be bringing us purpose perspective from farsi speakers online thank you everybody for joining us so much talk about what actually happened in the last two weeks nygaard if you could somebody up what happened in iraq. These protests didnt come out of the economic protests against austerity measures that have been going on for months if not years building gathering here in their front of government buildings and they were scattered they were smaller sometimes even crackdown but this time it was organized and it all started in the religious city of masha which is the second largest city in iran and like you said before miss activists on the ground believe that this was actually started by the hardliners or the conservative whos the base for one of the major. Contenders of their previous election against president rouhani is actually in that but then it escalated it got out of hand and it spread like wildfire to dozens of cities across iran ive got here a tweet from Sayed Mousavi professor let me just share this with you says because of all the different camps the dynamics of very very these protests dont even have a nor official personality as a leader the protests directions a sense for the telegram app a crowd shows up no manifesto no clear message right submersion everyone goes back home professor how did you see what happened to the last couple of weeks. Well i would agree that it started with economic we even says now i think whether the hardliners were involved in organizing these protests i think the question is still all in who you really dont know but never the best people have no real economic grievances official Unemployment Rate in iran is around percent but when you study the detail of the Unemployment Rate for people aged fifteen to twenty nine is actually over twenty six percent and this is the official rate perhaps its even higher than this and as you can imagine young people without jobs are unhappy required list of this whole issue or part lives are reformers and you have to consider the fact that has had one on each change into power clive years ago on a mandate from improve the economy be a nuclear deal with what is now and he was successful in getting the nuclear deal any economy has arguably improved likely but we havent really beauty in the kind of improvement people were opening for so although i think there are real greeted the regarding the president. What has happened from your perspective. Well i actually think it had three phases the first phase was organized by hardliners who actually were defeated. A few months ago in the in the last president ial elections from rouhani and actually interesting enough they were running on a very very. Serious platform of economic you know grievances and injustice and unemployment and they lost in a landslide. So those same people who probably have long long long plans and they have Different Things that maybe were getting to they organize these protests because they wanted to. Put pressure on rouhani for Different Reasons that we might actually get into later and then you keep teasing at the same place later in the second story to think dive anytime you want to see a. Single phase that was when some people young very young people unemployed men dominated by me and then this is a very important point to make came to the streets and joined these organized protests that were organized by hardliners a specific group of partners who were close to the. Candidate who lost the elections in mashhad brain right you see is the name. And then the third phase was when it became violent and i think it was a result of probably Media Support by hawks u. S. Hawks. Who were always. Thought of regime change as the best scenario for your arm so we have to analyze this in three phases and we cant really make any judgments as a whole seven months of opportunity some seem speaking on its like people out on the streets maybe we can join they always have that but also we should never forget that their grievances are genuine like it was saying and its not just economic these slogans are not very political theyre targeting the entire establishment its started by death to rowhani chants in mash it went all the way up to the Supreme Leader death to dictator which is another code for a Supreme Leader who is seen as the symbol of the mismanagement in the political and Economic Situation of the system not just in this administration over decades and this is something that few people feel angry about and now have a platform to vent it out professor professor. To run it go ahead. Yet if i can add to that i think we should really distinguish between the protesters and the rioters when the protesters first started are about ten days ago in mashhad for the first few days they were very very peaceful and i think there was a lot of normal people than what regard this so you know if the conservatives were involved or not but after a while we had some sort of riots in it especially smaller cities the burning of banks the building of sharpes the attempt to take over at least they should and this is the time when the number of protesters started to decline because of the violence and at the same time the number of casualties started to eat and perhaps i think because odowd what i meant that was one of the reasons why the protests died away i do why is i think if they had been peaceful then they would have perhaps continued interesting here handmade here on twitter says i separate protests from our rest it is only one professor says what time but i want to add this the difference between this time and two thousand and nine was that the middle class that joined these protests and this is a huge huge aspect of the dynamic here because and actually its another sign that i dont think it was about economy i mean people have problems but this pacific protests were not about what was not an organic protest about economy. What i was you know what i was postponing was that this protest was organized by a group of hardliners who wanted to secure the succession to Ayatollah Khomeini the Supreme Leader rouhani now has a high chance of be the successor to him specially now that another grand another sunni ayatollah has been apparently diagnosed them as. Having cancer this rumored. So now even i mean sin. Last year before the elections that was the they can say because they knew that this would probably be. Happening so the the this that bushman should decide about the success so i thought harmony so they groomed their candidate brymer a see not only for another four years of presidency but actually for a few decades of Supreme Leadership so with ronnies victory these plans. Were shattered and so now they are trying to do other things to bring down rouhani and to take the possibility of succession and harmony from. Economic reasons potentially for why people would be miserable in iran have a look at these vox pops people talking about standard of living how look. John the car im working but in this society im always stressed about the possibility of getting fired the next day always being worried about my job my family the security of my family the main problems people are grappling with are their security the economy and their livelihood danced and there are some who are poor and cannot make ends meet what should they do life is really difficult we have tenants i have a daughter in school the high prices that really put me under pressure at home. Grievances right there. I think so i think what to just to assume was saying a hard line line is to push that all of these economic grievances have to do with the presidency of Hasan Rowhani which is not true these are many of them are holdovers from the Previous Administration there is a high level of corruption there is an equality there is even environmental factors that have led wrong Environmental Policies that have led to grievances there is serious air pollution in some of the cities where that you see that on the rest of the level that people cant leave their houses on certain days for Health Reasons there is shortage of Water Drought so there is a mishmash of all kinds of many policies that people are upset but at the end of the day it is their livelihood and every day situation of the economy that has made them very you also have the ability to tap into what people are saying. On social media very Different Networks when you look at what reformists are talking about right now what are you saying i actually had a couple of comments i talked to an iranian journalist a reformist journalist on a tablet into iran and she had two main points one is that the dissent has always been going on but along with the same as saying its usually not violent thats when you see the majority thats when you see the millions thats when you see the two thousand and nine type of movement happening people participate in election to show a form of dissent they vote for someone like Hassan Rowhani whos the furthest from the Supreme Leader to show their dissent but in a peaceful manner without risking their lives the other point she was making was about the reaction of the trumpet and as straight as she was saying that this administration is trying to use sanctions to weaken the Central Government in iran sanctions are not going to bring democracy look at the countries around the iran iran in the region where the u. S. Has invaded and has or has somehow meddled in and this is not the situation that the iranians would want to be in specially the middle class or the political elite that have kind of stayed away from the streets in these protests what kind of pressure do you feel that these recent protests have put all the government in iran and we just had this quote from you here. With protests initially emerging from the middle in the lower class iranians government is now under a serious demand for full me economic policies creating jobs reforming Banking Systems etc should the government nor the samantha People Lose Trust in the harley more than ever now of course not these are but these but we have to be aware that these are the heritage of two things the previous very corrupt governments of families are going to in eighty years and then the fact that us hawks are preventing iran from benefiting from the opening that the Nuclear Agreement was supposed to bring about so the economy i mean the Foreign Investment has not happened as much as everybody expected for that reason so then we get into a very interesting tacit alliance between the us hawks and iran hardliners when it comes to nuclear deal because both sides once they get rid of it for their own benefit and they also are against rouhani or any kind of moderate or reformist because obviously they have another interest because of their plans and their larger goals for for you ron the americans want regime change they run the hardliners want a very isolated closed military society so. Then the same groups of people they do two kinds of exaggerations they exaggerate about two things one is the impact of social media and telegram in inciting violence and in organizing the protests which is an interesting thought topic specially for this program and then the economy they also exaggerate about the impact of economy because the iranian hardliners want to bash rouhani for that without excuse and then trump and the u. S. Folks want to get rid of the Nuclear Program because of that theres a farmhouse there thats what the u. S. Hawks are focusing on and irans support for outside groups that are spending their money on internal issues first if you notice any change since the protesters hit the streets in terms of how the government is reacting to the protests. Yes so there has been some changes im i should point out that one of the reasons perhaps there was a little bit of concern and its it resulted in the protest to begin with is that the government of wrong on me is trying to for its budget for next year and there was a lot of discussion regarding increasing gas prices by fifty percent now and that sort of an increase would have that effect on all sorts of prices and they have actually backed away from that proposal in the discussion right now is maybe to increase it by only ten to fifteen percent and also the one other interesting thing that there arent government did a few days ago is they have actually back and the imports of cars have worth over forty thousand dollars to iran so it would no longer be able to import merci disses and you know b. M. W. s and all that and i think this is partly because of they dont want this sort of economic gap to you know for the poorer classes to feel pressured and to become angry. Also i would regarding to the previous discussion if i mean. That it is very true that theyre wrong on the government has had actually some successes for example one wrong on each team and watch this insulation rate was about forty percent and right now its about ten percent never did that i think the expectation of the nuclear deal was much higher in iran people were expecting you know the economy to improve significantly in one of the mechanisms for that was the attraction of floor and direct investment in reality especially in the past year or during the administration of dawn will draw out. This kind of investment especially from the europeans has dried up because people become concerned about what the future of you want u. S. Relations will be in action result they will not invest in you want resulting in a big redemption in the economy basically so i think repaired or actually be partly responsible for this mess to begin with. We got i think the americans are responsible promises of the nuclear deal these are all issues but also another point about the budget this budget has been one of the most transparent budgets put out by the administration and what people see is these foundations organizations institutions religious entities that dont answer to the elected government that have high budgets. Cultural social like i said religious or Even Economic and they still call parts of the fights of the finances of the country without being part of the administration or the elected body and basically directly respond to the Supreme Leader thats also something that makes people angry together with the Foreign Policy with their presidency and everything its like i said a mix of all these policies and everybody and establishments is seen responsible from the viewpoint of the protesters its interesting we saw at the very top of the show reza pahlavi hes the son of the form ashar of iran. He talked just a few days ago about iranian authorities not really caring about the people of iran have a listen. The core issue is the dismal Economic Situation that forces people to voice ou