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Im a hacker and a trouble maker of activist. I politically dennis as a non ideological in a. Legal let free carols account so we go out and find some cows we go over to the children to tell me more of them are you sure to make books to read these children who you think are walter reed oh. I started programming. When i was five. I learned to read so that i could read programming manuals. I love about. This is the house that i built with my family and we built it out of paper which is like this recycled paper. What we did was we just built the wall straight up and then we chain saw it out. The hole where the windows are going to be. Is completely off the grid which means that both the communications up and down go straight to a satellite. And actually try to figure how to get microwave internet which is going to ball playing in tennis on top of the mountains to to bounce signals back and forth to try to get a life so to be fair bit faster. Living out here you have to know much more about whats going on with your property you have to know all the systems theres no passing it off in some ways thats very aligned with hacker culture you have to get in there and see how it works. Programmers are like digital superhero. Everybody else gets to use the technology and the reality in which we play but the programmers we get to reshape the rules the physics of our digital universe. The values of hacker culture the values of social movements exist more in startups than we ever think. Capitalism is an astounding belief that the most we can use them in will do the most we could list of things for the greatest good john maynard keynes. Was a great. As it were my favorite shirts. On the back more work less bank. Beats move less room justice the end of number one thousand nine nine. Point two negotiate a new round where companies could go in and overturn the countrys laws and fight countries if their countries passed laws that hurt their profits. And so there was a very large protest maybe fifty thousand people. Dead b. T. O. Was supposed to be a shining moment for seattle but as we know it didnt turn out that way because the edges demonstrators determined to stop the trade organization mainland it was a centralized thing. They created the narrative in the message and so in the media had this radical concept that activists that anyone concerned about the world and social change should no longer focus on convincing journalists to cover their stories but they should make the media themselves. We have to find our own ways to get the message out revolution will not be televised by the Corporate Media the couple days before the protest i walked in and joined as a volunteer. That the whole protest inside just smelling the tear gas floating under the doors. Building software that let people go online and publish their own. Web site to stuff the cranks and that more place grassroots politics in the books they came from to come from their downward tionne and very exciting thing is emerging here in seattle and peoples opposition to the World Trade Organization we set up so that people are doing Live Streaming video in the streets we have laptops with all sorts of complicated Network Equipment published photos published video in the late ninetys that was a very rare interview thing that trade agreement ended up not being passed. That moment proved to be a shift where i said ok im going to quit my job to try and build software for social change full. And so i spent four years setting up computer labs and websites who are into globalization. Well you missed the raspberry but. There still are thriving. My friends had hers hed been trying to figure out how to Fill Technology for activism too he had this text message alert system for protest it was something called text. Books. In the summer of two thousand and four researchers produced a text model a cell phone text message broadcasting system text mob allows activists who are distributed throughout a city term in bergen ised during Chaotic Street protests or public and convention in two thousand and four was in new york and bush was the president running for reelection on the campaign of continuing occupation. So by this time we had any media sort of tweet like messages single said you know one hundred fifty hundred forty character long messages they were breaking news updates and we provide these every few minutes testers were able to bypass Preemptive Police tactics by sharing information on undercover officers and police techs mum was a bit of an improvised system but the basic idea was that users would have their cell phones. And they would send messages to a server. Going online saying i want to sign up for text mob and these are the information i want i want to be a member of this group and we had this p. H. P. Web server. And abused me web server say great whats your phone number and whats your email provider in there then it would send email providers emails to the Company Sprint eighteen t. T. Mobile. And that would then send an email message that became an s. M. S. And those would go back and forth. The problem was eighteen t. Very soon discovered this and said you cant do that give us lots of money being a bunch of activists who didnt have a lot of money. We decided that we were going to do that instead what we built was a sneaky system around that we built a what is called a peer to peer network. And we built a little java applet. And we put that applet in the in the media web page. And whenever we wanted to send an s. M. S. We sent it out to all of these little applets running on many thousands of peoples computers that uplift would then do the communication to the eighteen t. s of the world from a new ip address and it says oh you need person youre not doing this anymore in one thousand t. Says happily ill deliver a couple s. M. S. Is for you but not a lot and it started working and so we built this system that let us send forty to fifty thousand s. M. S. Is an hour through text mob without. Having to pay for any. Text in the media on the other optimism or is a major precursor to what has become a media. I was a broke activist traveling around living in a v. W. Bus that i bought for two hundred dollars and i saw this contract on craigslist listing the company trying to create a new media of communication and i was like im all for democratizing the media all do this this is the picture its not a very good picture but thats thats the demo. Of the original twitter and we videoed it in the video got lost. And this is the original team that got split up to work on twitter so when we divided up the teams internally whos florian jack and noah. It looks like the picture was taken in a club or something. The whole team said lets look at text messaging lets look at social networks lets look at building stuff. When we took text and looked at it we said well ok this is interesting but it doesnt have the social model that blogging. And so the transition from twitter to text love is that that reading relationship in the p. R. I. And the openness of the web. Over the summer it went on i actually personally after we launched twitter which. I didnt realize what i myself was doing by part of the team that i helped create and hire and partially that the way the technology worked and part of its roots in text bob and other projects i didnt realize the values that went into it if you dont have to be conscious of the values that youre putting in things when you do it. This is one of those sort of the biggest commercially focused open source conference in that sense theres an i. B. M. And theres a paper in microsoft and. They dont necessarily agree exactly with my politics but theres none of this like you should be shunned because you want to overthrow capitalism. Are you. Here yet. But. The couple years i worked on twitter and then seeing it grow totally changed my life. Ive done a lot of interesting projects and ive traveled around the world and built lots of software. Its a foggy field of bucks if you did the box exactly ok. And then one day i was talking to subpoena bill about how to build software for oil rigs. And i realized this is interesting because the problem was. I had. Lost track. Of the desire and the need to focus more directly on changing the world. And so i wrapped up my projects and Everything Else i said that i needed to refocus and apply the lean startup techniques apply big data play start of Technology Open source all of the things back to the activist world nuts thats where i am now. Heading up to seattle were going to drop in on a new project called the. And. The organization and Software Project thats been working for a number of years to create secure communication it was a very big problem with the way our email and mailing lists the way your communications work. People think that theyre sending a private letter and it turns out that what theyre sending are postcards. The lead team reach out to me because im one of the people that has bridged the gap between the activist world and the startup world. There are not a lot of anarchists Angel Investors and so they wanted to find someone who could advise them on and raising money on being a viable start up all the same time knowing that they dont want to abandon the larger political vision of why theyre doing. It. And its its really important to have the capacity to organize without all of your information being completely exposed and i think its in excess. Central question for social change and no i dont think that it will be possible in the future without the capacity to communicate securely whether its behavior tracking whether its Business Intelligence or what are other forms of analytics it is the data that matter not. On what most people in the tech read the radical to community. Ive worked with in that sort of. Work the people who are dollar big. Theyre going to stumble into more Efficient Solutions than the people who use intuition i guess taking a step back i would say all aspects of governance are increasingly becoming systems of code and analysis and data and certainly the lesson out of the dot bomb of two thousand. When the nasdaq internet stocks a version of their value in a week was that the Companies Left standing were the ones with the biggest databases and so that trance that lesson and that transformation has led to this current rise of surveillance as a business but surveillance is really a subset of this process of. Social control through data and. To go and work for Silicon Valley is not selling out in the sense of like oh that band used to be cool and they sold out and made money its not its not like selling out its like switching sides. Using our labor its very important to be building something that is not potentially part of a dark distance. You go and work for Silicon Valley the current game is Building Technology that could be used for talent area and social control. But if you dont collect data if you dont want experience get the stats of it then you determine what is good. To achieve the larger politically it needs to be something that exists to get Widespread Adoption and thats a thats a company in this world. You know i spent five years travelling around setting up protests and Building Community centers and technology for activist groups with the goal of changing the media and the project which i told my friends i was selling out work at the start up a larger effect of transforming the media. Twitter. Facebook twitter its a very good way for communication it has no power control for maybe one it looks like the media like the t. V. I want to get some t. V. Or whatever they are controlling everything now we did if youre going to i just make a capsule individual picture i just uploaded very little actual protests are coordinated on twitter. But the public street and the personal feeling about them is completely different. I. Let people share ideas and me and share photos and share videos and shape the media and shape their own narratives. Only activists only people who wanted to achieve social change use a technology that its very easy to get rid of so in the case of text mob it was easy to eventually block and shut it down because people only used it at protests but when people used twitter of protests twitter got used for lots of other things. To transform the world in the way we make social change we need the tools of social change be used enables everyday lives for things that have nothing to do with social change. With the Chaos Computer Club him Company Every four years its where the european Hacker Community gets together and hangs out play. And connects with each other in a face to face real world. This is a community that created the leaks this is a community they created tor is a you know a community that says that privacy is important and this is the the the communities that built the internet. Its a campaign with power cables and computers long as it doesnt rain its great but what it means its everybody rushed to get the Circuit Breakers and turn off the power is all that and. What i want to know. What do you think we should do but just be brutally honest about how we should get. Encrypted email into the hands of lets say a million lets say a billion people and like like what should we do like next next month be next year needs to. Launch products under different names with different designs with different sales pitches and Everything Else to see what people will sign up for you would basically say lets build two web pages of the one who lets begin with like i think when you think it was at one one web pages heres a v. P. N. Is great and we see if youll sign up for that name another pages of emails great and we see how many people sign up for that everything will thing you think you can do in the lead cloud for and make you launch ok before you build it. The startup world has figured out how to do stuff and do things that make their Software Work better in we think that selling out. If you dont do the experiments at all youll never build something that gets used but i think like the problem is. With the people here is because they know that the the kind of realize that the start up stuff might work on the techniques there but when they see start up people and they see that the people who work in start are directed primarily by money or by fame i mean everyone here is camera shy no one here wants to be famous people want to be anonymous and thus like i kind of think that that actually is causing like this weird. Paradox of the like we know and already we need in order to be successful as revolutionaries we need everyone to use the stuff i think thats like the disconnect is almost ethical does this connect but its not necessarily disconnect of the techniques with them so. I want to talk a little bit about why people are using start ups or corporations communications of where and why theyre not using our stuff and in particular i want to encourage us to steal ideas and techniques from from the capitalists and the start of community. Its a race that we face its a race between different applications to get security limitations we need to win the race and right now. Were not going to win that race. Right now we have all these different projects very bravely in valley fighting out there and were not learning quickly so we need we need to build things that people use we need to build things that people want to use buildings that people love. To. Have Software Developers that have people who work in startups as people who care about the future of the world we have to look at where technology is being built how its being built what values go into it because those are the values that will then shape future society. Right. Now. Its swear every year. For the nomadic jhankaar tribe survival is about reaching their destination if we dont hurry well never be able to give account of the storm we follow the mongolian herdsmen on a treacherous migration. Is dangerous to the ice and then as they strive to preserve their traditional way of life a little bit longer we sometimes lose our cattle there with cold war because of the storm risking it all mongolia at this time on aljazeera. You. Know. Its like the wild west they can do anything and the really hard for them to get the all powerful internet is both a tool for democracy and a threat somebody who controls ten thousand balls thats unfolding a hundred thousand voices and they distort the debate in the echo Chamber World of fake news in cyberspace the rules of the game have changed their no precedents people and out investigates disinclination and democracy part two at this time on aljazeera. This is aljazeera