But trump remains defiant insisting he wanted nothing from ukraine and that the inquiry should and. Also students is still under siege at a Hong Kong University as the u. S. Congress approves a bill demanding china respect human rights and a new symbol emerges to represent the diverse groups of people behind the protests in chile. So more dramatic testimony has been delivered on the 4th day of the public. Pietschmann inquiry into u. S. President dont trump and just the past few hours weve heard from the Deputy Assistant secretary of defense laura cooper also david hale the under secretary secretary for Political Affairs but when asked what they knew about u. S. Military aid being withheld from ukraine now in her testimony cooper mentioned that ukrainian officials are asked about the stalled a as early as july 25th contradicting President Trumps defense that they had no idea anything was on hold my staff showed me 2 unclassified emails that they received from the state Department One was received on july 25th at 2 31 pm that email said that the Ukrainian Embassy and House Foreign Affairs committee are asking about Security Assistance the 2nd email was received on july 25th at 4 25 pm that email said that the hill knows about the f m f situation to an extent and so does the Ukrainian Embassy and then in the earliest session the Us Ambassador to the e. U. Gordon sandland gave what was the most anticipated testimony so far he said while trying never told him directly about a reciprocal agreement or quid pro quo as they say for military aid it was made very clear to everyone involved that there was a Pressure Campaign against ukraine was there a quid pro quo as i testified previously with regard to the requested white house call and the white house meeting the answer is yes mr giuliani conveyed to secretary perry ambassador volker and others that President Trump wanted a Public Statement from president selenski committing to investigations of brewery sma and the 2016 election. Of course this inquiry is assessing whether donald trump withheld military aid to ukraine in order to pressure the country into investigating his rival joe biden following the latest testimonies trump himself said the impeachment inquiry should just and not only do we win today its over and some of the Family Friends of which there is a deal mike said this thing is over nancy pelosi is a competent shes got nothing done in congress and now with their big star witnesses and its going to be their star witness that just so you know i dont know him very well hes the guy that got put there he wasnt even on my side he came over to be i didnt even know that he came up to me after i defeated other people i defeated them all. Lets pull of together with alan fischer now has been following developments in washington alan its not over is it in fact today is possibly pushed the house closer to the idea of impeachment actual articles of impeachment than ever before. Well i dont know what media donald trump is looking at saying its over i cant see anyone saying that ive also been looking at fox news and some of their commentators are saying this was a very damaging day for donald trump no if youve been at what cold day or you cant sit next the television or the radio weve been watching these impeachment hearings so you dont have to let me tell you the big reveal is of course court and saundra and saying look there was a quid pro quo or you remember this all started because an anonymous whistleblower hared the call on july 25th or let me correct that got reports from people who were on the call on july 25th and said there was something wrong about this so lodged a complaint with the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community that then sparked these inquiries and that led to the impeachment hearings were seeing no essentially the whistleblower said he was told or she was told there was a quid pro quo always denied by the republicans there was no quid pro quo or donald trump or said that many times here is Gordon Sunderland one of the main conduit between the white house and the ukrainian saying yes there was a quid pro quo donald trump saying i hardly know the man he delivered 1000000. 00 to the Inauguration Campaign he would regularly in contact with donald trump according to his testimony he said that senior figures in the administration including the Vice President the secretary of state the Energy Secretary the chief of staff they all knew that there was a quid pro quo that they were putting pressure on the ukrainians to deliver an investigation into joe biden a political rival no interestingly enough in the last couple of hours weve heard from the Vice President s office and weve heard from the secretary of States Office they say that gordons on dylans testimony was wrong he gave evidence under or thought means if he is lying he could be in big trouble and they just put out statements to the mean. Saying that they got this thing wrong this was a big day it was an important day it could possibly be had historic day youre seeing the republicans moving closer and closer to articles of impeachment the republicans for their part they keep saying nothing to see here move along i mentioned alan that this is the 4th day of the public hearings at least what is still to come this way next great beyond. Well you know ive lost my list of people who are coming up in the next couple of days but what we will see is the democrats continuing to build a case putting testimony after testimony that backs up a lot of what theyve been saying this isnt just a random less that they have built this in the very methodical way so that it will get the initial statements and then you will find out what Gordon Sunderlands said and that was important and we saw that in the last couple of hours just as you highlighted from the woman who was at the Defense Department whose name escapes me for the moment laura. Could park who said exactly laura cooper who said that. Look weve were told by the ukrainians they were concerned about not getting this aid on july 25th an important date for a number of reasons 1st of all because that is a month before the white house says that the ukrainians found out about it so nor they knew that it was being held up and july 25th why is that date important come on you know the answer that is the day that donald trump held this conversation with president selenski and released the transcript that transcript where he says although he never said the word would like a quid pro quo he says and perhaps you could do us a favor so there are going to see more and more of this just building up a case that moves towards articles of impeachment and that is likely to happen soon but as weve said before come on weve said in the last hour America United states 2900. 00 politics here is very tribal the democrats think they are building a very solid case towards impeachment the democrats the republicans dont think theyre doing anything that brings donald trump course to impeachment and so thats where the 2 sites sit and although the house might go ahead with impeachment its still unlikely inconceivable says Mitch Mcconnell the leader of the publicans in the senate that theyll get 67 votes to impeach don. Trump and remove him from office its been a big day on capitol hill our thanks to alan fish if its taking us through it so lets step back a little more with a quick look at how this impeachment process actually works it begins in the house of representatives it debates it votes on whether to bring as alan was talking about the articles of impeachment the charges against the president if that is successful then a trial of sorts presided by the chief justice of the u. S. Supreme court happens in the senate a 2 thirds majority would be needed in that 100 Member Senate to convict and thus remove the president and historically wed have to say impeachment are rare out of 35 attempts only 2 president s have actually been impeached. Is one of them Richard Nixon bill clinton the of the other one neither have been removed from office. Richard nixon he of course resigned when the proceedings were under way from one alan fischer to Allan Lichtman now in washington d. C. A professor of history at the American University mailed friend who was here 3 years ago of course for our Election Night coverage allan when donald trump was was elected and you said if it wasnt back then you said not long after that that allan donald trump will not only be elected but he will be impeached you would be feeling fairly confident about that now. It is endeavor to bull that donald trump will be impeached look the republicans are wrong the democrats have not been pushing for the impeachment of donald trump ever since he was elected quite the opposite the leadership of the Democratic Party particularly Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said were not moving to impeachment but then donald trump brought it down upon himself gratuitously by opening up this entire ukrainian scandal he forced the hand of a very reluctant democratic leadership but they will not have gone this far and the evidence is so strong that an impeachment is guaranteed as you say we can talk about the senate as well well get to that in a moment i 1st just want to talk about the hearings that we were watching today and that weve seen these 4 days of public hearings do you get the feeling sometimes that the democrats and republicans are just watching Different Things or just hearing Different Things i know it is each of their jobs overseas to push their own party line but the interpretations are complete other ends of the spectrum. They really are and in heard republicans say we dont care what the evidence is we are going to stand by the president no matter what and thats what youve seen play out look at the devon noone is the lead republican on the committee the Ranking Member if you watch his opening and closing statements he almost never talks about the evidence he simply goes through these rants denouncing the democrats and bringing up these utterly debunked conspiracy theories that it was really the ukrainians not the russians who intervened in the 2016 election i think todays hearing though was very important because the blew away substantively 3 of the republicans most important defenses number one they said there was nothing linking this to donald trump well Gordon Sunland who has direct access to donald trump directly linked it to donald trump directly through a directive from donald trump through Donald Trumps personal attorney Rudy Giuliani who donald trump also said president s dyleski should contact after he asked him for these politically connected investigations secondly gordon seidlin blew away the defense that there was no this for that he said absolutely Rudy Giuliani told him that there was a quid pro quo that they would not get. The critically needed meeting with donald trump in the oval office unless they announced these investigations thirdly weve heard from laura cooper which blew away the republicans defense that oh the ukrainians didnt even know about this until maybe late august as your reporter indicated they were expressing concerns on the very day that trump out his conversation would selenski allen as you point out the senate is where it all really. Happens provided we get to page meant the likelihood of a republican lead we will actually. Removing the president from office is unlikely so if that is the case what will the impeachment have done with it and given donald trump a bloody nose so to speak in a reElection Year absolutely if you look at the past history 2 president s impeached Richard Nixon resigned to avoid impeachment in every case their party lost the next president ial election with the cloud of scandal hanging over them now remember a senate trial will get much more public attention then these hearings its very dramatic weve only had 2 of them in the history of the country and at the senate trial the house can appoint prosecutors who can bring forth witnesses and documents make opening and closing statements crossexamine the president s witnesses and the president will have to mount a real defense not just the bluster weve seen from him and not just Rudy Giuliani style spend no matter what happens in the senate vote its going to be a very bruising experience for donald trump right in the middle of the Election YearAllan Lichtman always a pleasure thank you for joining us. Heres what else is coming up for you on this news hour a Family Affair because newly elected president names his brother as the Prime Minister putting a firm grip on power also pressure mounts on colombias government as the country braces for its Biggest National strike in years and in sports as a marine youre settles into his new job his 1st Training Session as the manager of talking. To other news a magnitude 6 point one earthquake has struck in thailand it happened near the district of one in the north just east of chiang mai in fact so far. No reports of damage or casualties. To hong kong about 100. 00 protesters are still holed up in the besieged Polytechnic University the remnants of the hundreds who took over the campus for several Days International condemnation is now growing over the treatment of the protesters centers in the u. S. Of a even approved a bill to support human rights in Hong Kong China says its meddling in the summer and a u. S. Diplomat in beijing lets check in with sarah clarke outside that university in hi sara just bring us up to date with what you know of how many protesters are left and when and if theyre going to go. Weve got about 100 protesters still left inside there refusing to leave this campus impellor in the Polytechnic University and weve had some. Some voluntarily surrendered and weve had a 1000 leave over the last few days but this hard core Group Remains barricaded up inside we do know from some of those protests is that the hungry theyve also indicated this we saw on monday when. This particular camp itself i dont buy tear gas and rubber bullets by the place now since then the police and the government have negotiated a deal with your group of the principals teachers and headmasters who said can we get can be at school at some of these protests is that if we do you would you please let me exit and i asked for that camp said still inside round this area its all still congested with a lot of Traffic Congestion around hong kong this morning and we still have a cross have a town which is right behind me its been closed since wednesday after those protesters lit some of the top its certainly here in hong kong the last of the 100 practices of behind me but we have brought down this particular area in a very busy part of hong kong so i mentioned the same passing just before the u. S. House of representatives passing this hong kong human rights and democracy act and its got to go to the president yet for approval what would the reaction to that be in her own course. Yes it passed unanimously yesterday in the senate in the u. S. And today obviously the house of reps has passed it now it has 10 days to go to President Donald Trump well no doubt house is something outside this off simply because its gone through both houses now now this put this in particular this bill the government here has rejected it angrily theyve said that told the u. S. Not to interfere in the internal matters or internal affairs in Hong Kong China has had a similar response to what this particular bill does that requires a state department in the u. S. To certify that that hong kong is protecting respecting the human rights of people here in hong kong as well theyve also looked at the bill requests also allows hong kong to qualify for a special u. S. Try to sanction so if the u. S. Believes that the hong kong and china are not respecting you that protecting the one country 2 systems policy i can interact so i do as i mentioned trump has now 10 days to pass it but the Hong Kong Government once again and china has rejected it angrily thank you sarah clarke for the update from hong kong at least 11 people have been killed after an strikes and missiles targeted parts of syrias rebel controlled italy province activists are blaming the Syrian Government iranian militias for a missile that targeted an internally displaced persons camp near the Turkish BorderSyrian Regime air