Transcripts For ALJAZ Bellingcat - Truth In A Post-Truth Wor

ALJAZ Bellingcat - Truth In A Post-Truth World July 13, 2024

There has been this trend of finding now more than 100 cases amongst this population of several 1000 people who have tested positive again so these were people who were clear and they had had tests either in hospital look at clinics Testing Centers it proved to be negative and more than 100 now 3 have now tested positive 7 questions here for the experts is what is causing this is this a reinfection people coming into contact with a carrier and getting the infection again or more worrying they use a reactivation that somehow they were may not have been asymptomatic at they may not have been its certainly on the face of it infectious but seem to have possibly still being carrying the virus in some dormant form possibly deep in body tissue that somehow has managed to become reactivate so it is a worrying trend here does that mean that there has been a problem in testing and does it mean certainly that there are many more questions about this virus that the experts simply dont know about it russia is reporting its largest daily increase yes of more than 2 and a half 1000 new cases the government says 148 russians have died with the number of infections now surpassing 18000. China has recorded more than 100 new infections its highest in 6 weeks most came from people arriving from overseas but no new cases of being reported in the province of. Break was 1st detected so clocks in hong kong she says the authorities are putting in place new measures in areas with a growing number of cases large number have been reported coming from the north east of china this is an area a province called heilongjiang thats a province a province bios that are based in bordering russia and china is now building a makeshift hospital in this particular region trying to deal with the increasing number of infections coming from the northeast and also put in strict new border controls in that particular area due to the number of infections of the chinese nationals coming from russia back into china now those measures include in the capital harbor they put in place some stay at home orders for some of those residential compounds where theyre identified some of the clusters as well as in the cities the border of russia or public gatherings have been bad across the entire province and Train Services have been stopped in parts of that region and theyll also be Health Checks on all arrivals coming in to that particular province and thats obviously mainly from russia the be mandatory testing of the coronavirus when they do arrive as well as a 28 day quarantine scenario now local authorities have also already put the city that borders russia into a lockdown last week thats got about 70000 people in that particular city now russia and china they share about a 4300 kilometer border between them and as a result of the spike of these cases that are coming in from russia its clearly putting a number of the the hospitals and that particular region its testing the capacity of how they can deal with the increasing number of infections that were seeing in china as a result. Some nonessential businesses have reopened in spain are almost 3 weeks of a shutdown there and of the 517. 00 deaths linked to the virus were also reported thats fewer than on sunday the loosening of the lockdown is being criticized by people worried about a possible resurgence in the disease in other news forces loyal to libyas internationally recognized government say theyre making gains in the fight against the wall orderly for half the troops went to the city of sort of man and theyre continuing to advance those are your top stories the news continues on aljazeera after belling cat truth in a post truth world more news in 30 minutes either. d after. Crashed. Into russia. Finally without problems. And american journalist has been beheaded by isis terrorists a video showing the whole riffs a killing was released on the internet a short while ago along with a message to the united states. Went activists green very powerful. Or you have data getting out who didnt want a damn about 38 cows they eat and kill but you dont want to let you. Know aircraft you know getting ready and you know carrell a very very. You know this is known since there are no Russian Armed forces anyway in the east of ukraine unfortunately the russian backed separatists who control the area continue to block the investigation the separatists are removing evidence from the crash site all of which begs the question what exactly are they trying to hide. We have to make sure that the truth is out. Before any official investigation into the tragedy of flight m h 17 is complete the website of one citizen journalist claims to have connected the dots during cat is run by Elliot Higgins a 36 year old leader of Office Worker among boeing can see were tools or you tube and google earth something higgins used to back his claim that russian big satellite images to play in the green army for the mh 700 crash were when i was younger i was super super show i was in verse i just couldnt leave the house or show shy. Terribly nerdy as this out i was really into if your game and i was very i was drawn as well so its computers and those kind of people think. I used to play these games a lot and i would like join a group and inevitably object to being the leader of the group because i was really good stuff ive always been like that have this kind of assessment to see where if i do Something Like really get into it. Ive just been looking at twitter and i know says there was a you know i suspect you know and someone said of this james foley all of this is the art form and american citizen culture. I just felt like i need to see do something so thats why for it see if i can actually figure out where this taking place. The 1st one i notice is it was in this kind of very dry and arid area but in the distance you can actually see a very green and fertile area and if you are familiar with the train around raca. City is a state stronghold of that point you could see this valley with this river running for a cream but the hills around there were very dry and arid these are very dusty heavy area b. Can see in the distance all these individual trees so when you look at rocca this is exactly what youre seeing is seeing this green valley with these hills and i basically just went through and followed this line looking for similar terrain and you can see here its very very rough indeed so awful that was the likely location and then i started looking up these little background details like these trees on the road and comparing them to imagery that was visible from a line of sight once i had a possible location i published it just to see if i could generate a discussion around where this could have happened and then several months later thats when i start to think. I really was going to come here and talk to you about a revolution but with the discussion of the post truth world it feels like accounts revolution now and its been a very peaceful and quiet revolution. Smartphones thanks to social media and fights to the vast amount of information now Available Online to anyone and this revolution is allowed to new fields to grow a mile its called this field online open source investigation can use their influence the powerful we can use it to challenge the powerful and we can bring them to accountability as well it used to be that the tools of Media Production were in the hands of the media. And with the rise of the internet that is no longer true. With blogging starting in 2000 and social media starting 2004 and you tube which i think started in 2005. The tools for Media Production have been given to the people formerly known as the audience. Banding cat doesnt have Institutional Support they dont have a big building at the hague. Where they do their work they actually publish very Detailed Analysis and many of them a volunteer is living at home they dont have security and so what they do is really risk a great deal to find out the truth in very complex situations that include major global play is. Essential to the regime of. Someone like you telling. The scenes here. In the mistress an. Exhaust and. Nothing should would have been a problem even if. The mission really. Is lost on you know all my dance school so my base also my you kid. If you thousands of them are more lies you just publish a lot of fear not of who. How i got involved ellicott it was that i had been following the ukrainian conflict said pretty much since the beginning and then when i made 17 was shot down i got curious because passenger planes fly very hard they fly that cruise at altitudes of 1010 kilometers i hadnt seen Weapons Systems that could reach that high so previously what ive seen is this is a troll who launched missiles that can only reach a couple of kilometers but nothing that could down on the passenger airliner. There were these pictures of all the parts of the aircraft that were starting to appear on social media and what at once it understand was that could we actually see any damage on the Aircraft Parts itself that could indicate what brought it down and thats how i got talking to that other people. There was arabic and then that to me came along as well and we sort of naturally start i suppose talking to each other that at some point that eliots reached out to all of us and said hey do you want to actually do something in a more coordinated fashion and thats how we sort of ended up as the sort of core delegates. I was at work here in charlotte at a bank and my job was to monitor events that were going on and try to see if theres any danger or risk to the bankers employees or travelers or whatever i focus a lot on you could russia work because i started russian literature and graduate school so i knew russian and i did a lot of monitoring of things to do with russia and ukraine and i remembered seeing some news that a plane shot down over ukraine. That i 1st i thought oh its no big deal you know but another planet been shot down. But soon obviously as everyone knows realize it wasnt ukrainian plane and then i like everybody else was wondering what was going on in there i was watching social media and i was watching a few different feeds of news and a member i had. Which is like the main russian state news channel and life news and the life news channel members stream specifically was her if they were showing the bodies it was awful should people rifling through it was just horrible horrible scene and of course you want to know who did this why did it happen and how can you bring some relief and you know justice to it. We know the trajectory we know where it came from we know the timing and it was exactly at the time that this aircraft disappeared from the radar we also know from voice identification that the separatists were bragging about shooting it down afterwards so theres a stocking here but i really want to 1st understand what was a shutdown with because that that would lead to the who did it. A couple weeks before i was 17 was shut down there was a report on voice of russia that the rebels in east ukraine had taken over this book missile base in donetsk what i 1st thought that ok its conceivable since ukraine does also have books on the rebels if they had access to the books they could have access to people as well who could operate those systems but there was only then after. After a little while 1st learning that the same missile launcher had been actually seen in russia thats really when things started like the together and sort of the russian role started becoming apparent. The way citizen journalism investigations are trusted is different than professional journalism in professional journalism you have the reputation of the b. B. C. Behind you right. And the standards of institution are the basis for trust in citizen journalism works differently trust is generated not by the brand name or the glory of the institution its generated through transparency. And so in the citizen journalism investigations what what the journalist says is not trust me im with the b. B. C. Its dont believe me heres the evidence. Syrias deadly steve is now even more dangerous with both the u. S. And russia launching airstrikes but supporting different sides. This is the markets one month before that. More than 60 people who were killed its just a market i mean there is no military airbase its not near the frontline it was a talk about air strike why would you attack civilians i mean what is the reason. The core of what i have been doing with its human rights activism with some of my colleagues we started a Facebook Group called the center uprising Information Center just in the beginning 2011 we were just looking at thing where the peaceful protests were coming from. But that turned into in pointing him in as of early actions and work led eventually working on doing open source analysis for burning cat. So if we go from the beginning so you see its like the 1st moment of the dark you see 4 rockets going into the market and we are trying to see if its a fake video may be from a different country maybe in syria but in a different time and we have seen this has happened a lot. More. If you remember the directors who filmed a boy that has been killed. It was just a film that they were doing and a different country even but it got a lot of traction when people use that look at whats happening in syria right but actually it wasnt happening in syria. So we need we need to make sure that whatever were looking its really verified its not just propaganda. So you can see the skyline and then impacting 3 of them in a pretty much the same place for a further hour. So there we see the bigger impacts here and then theres one further down here. Its hard to say what exactly it is but i wouldnt exclude syria from this one but in addition to this it would be really good to see the actual remnants of the bombs themselves because that gives you more data what exactly the bombs were and then that can tell you who to strike the work that heidi and belling had been doing is critical theyre grabbing obviously large quantities of information much of which can disappear quite quickly from the internet and preserving it so that we have it for future accountability mechanisms one of the things that hadi in the syrian archive have been doing and weve been really trying to support them in that process is figuring out how do you code and label and tag all of these videos so that if for example a legal investigator later says we want to investigate this particular crime on a particular date and particular place that they can pull up that information quickly they can explain how. They got it so that its transparent for a court of law and can then actually send it on to the investigators in a way that makes sense. And fun but you. Know im i know its. A human talk thats his arm but not i not seen me talk as. This being. Is assuming. Of course ive been i would also have a phone so i was its a mom or on our way to hope so shes you folks always who wouldnt i would offer you know its very true but he put. To me is helping to understand better what happened in the impact sites so what im asking to me is if he can create a city destruction of this location so then we can go in detail and see what happened its building these are software but they should not always d. M. V. Do you also einstein and bill dont dissuade us i mean pride the mood it uses more come undone. In the book to enter the only kid those issues the fake argues a lot more to it would be more does id through the. Going up to from the from to mean hardy about the occasional bombing. The big challenge for a journalist is just if you think about workability as doing that the mount of time that it takes to go through this so we have people on their free time in the evenings you know theyre spending hours and hours going through this sea of the pressure with many traditional journalist elephants as that there are getting so tight on resources and time these days that its hard for them to actually spend enough time to sort of goal for all of us and analyze in the way that some of the volunteer groups can. In the case of syria itself there is more hours of the conflict online now than the hours of the conflict itself its the most documented conflict in history and i dont see big News Agencies doing any work like this. The delegations dating unfounded allegations against my country are depending on. Bloggers and videos and among one of them is a very famous british citizen called ilya tegans who was online imports about the situation in syria are intensively yet mistakenly adopted by many Media Outlets as well as governments according to wikipedia and i quote ilya tegans in 2012 when he began blogging this year in situation was an unemployed finance admin worker who spends his days taking care of his child at home. Hagans analysis of syrian weapons began as a hobby out of his home in his spare time haggans has no background or training in weapons and is entirely selftaught and he said before the arab spring i knew no more about weapons than the average x. Box owner i had no Knowledge Beyond what i had learned from and which was a nigger and ramble never been to syria doesnt speak a word as arab there and he conducts his present reset from the concept of his. And his. When i 1st saw the idea for the website of the star to thousands are searching for the club and. I base it fails just like i was still open source investigation a lot of crap names and theyre all taking anyway so in a way frank got. They were picked one so i was stuck and i confess my friend hes a playwright you know so ill ask him and quite quickly he said what about the cat. A mouse town was recently visited by a cat since then all of the mice havent had any peace so the monks decided to be rid of this guy knows me knows that you. Have an idea about picking up. How about do you bell the cat as you seem to be the one with the great idea to me oh no. We were in the greatest ideas are nothing when they cant be done. So this is a photograph of the book i shot i make 17 this is take about 4 hours before the shoot down. And we look at this we can see a few things that are pretty obvious like we have the book right here which is in the back of a white valvo with a red loader trailer rounded and also we have here the jeep. If we look at other videos of this convoy we can find the same vehicles in each one so for example right here this is the wide valvo carrying the book. And here you see. The same sheep that we saw in that photograph along with a video taken 2 days prior accompanying a number of russian and separatist tanks 3 Eastern Ukraine today this video was taken on the day of their make 17

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