Transcripts For ALJAZ Bellingcat - Truth In A Post-Truth Wor

ALJAZ Bellingcat - Truth In A Post-Truth World July 13, 2024

Im going to leave and you could have it out with them just allowed me to introduce the number of prominent members of big business the Construction Labor Workforce International union of operating engineers Jim Callaghan north america Building Trades union. Sure mcgarvie is a lot of friends of mine laborers International Union of north America Terry osullivan and to sharply criticize the World Health Organization announcing his administration would suspend funding had the w. H. O. Done its job to get medical experts into china to objectively assess the situation on the ground and to call out chinas lack of transparency ironically President Trump is on the record praising china for its transparency in dealing with the virus having what was described as a friendly phone conversation with president xi at the end of march and subsequently tweeting we are working closely together much respect once again president tran prepares to be ignoring the principle of the separation of powers legal experts argue that he does not have the right to suspend funding that has already been approved by Congress Another constitutional crisis is looming and despite repeated cautions by the countrys Health Experts President Trump insisted mitigating measures could be eased all listed in a number of u. S. States by the beginning of next month. But he walked back an earlier contention that the decision was his to make by calm perming that the question of lifting restrictions or not would be left to individual gov the white house would still provide guidance were going to pick a date were going to get a date thats good but its going to be very very soon souter then the end of the month thats on a day that new york city announced its most dramatic rise in the paternity rate so Health Officials for the 1st time included the deaths of those presumed to have died of the virus even though they had not tested positive this increase the death toll by more than 3700 in a single day driving up the number of People Killed in new york city to more than 10000 and increasing the overall u. S. Death count by 17 percent to more than 26000 thank you all very much stock figures that not even the president action against the World Health Organization can distract from mike hanna out of thier washington voting is underway in south koreas parliamentary election as the worlds 1st National Ballot to be held during the pandemic voters are required to wear masks and gloves plus maintain social distancing the International Monetary fund says the pandemic is leading the world towards the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression of the one 930. 00 s. The i. M. F. Chief Economist Says lock downs aimed at stopping the outbreak could cost the Global Economy more than 9. 00 trillion dollars for the next 2 years months long containment measures in 3 European Countries are now starting to ease spain italy and austria letting some businesses reopen. East jerusalem theres concern the virus is spreading through palestinian neighborhoods undetected the number of recorded cases rose this week to 41. And for us president barack obama has endorsed his 2 terms as President Joe Biden in his bid for the white house obama said he believes biden is the candidate that America Needs joining the Coronavirus Crisis the backing comes less than a week after Bernie Sanders dropped out of the race those are the headlines the news continues here on aljazeera the bending cat truth and the post truth with a statement thanks so much but its. Journalist has been beheaded by isis terrorists a video showing the whole risk a killing was released on the internet a short while ago along with a message to the united states. Want to get the bow. Down when. A hot aircraft. Very very. This is known since there are no Russian Forces anyway in the east of ukraine and fortunately the russian backed separatists who control the area continue to block the investigation the separatists are removing evidence from the crash site all of which begs the question what exactly are they trying to hide. We have to make sure that the truth is out. Before any official investigation into the tragedy of flight m h 17 is complete the website of one citizen journalist claims to have connected the dots during cat is run by Elliot Higgins a 36 year old leader of Office Worker among boeing can see were tools or you tube and google earth something higgins used to back his claim that russian big satellite images to play in the green army for the mh 7000 crash. But i was young i was super super show i was in verse i just couldnt leave the house or show shy. Terribly nerdy as this hour i was really into if your game and i was very withdrawn as well so its computers and those kind of people do. I used to play these games a lot and i would like join a group and in never be able to be a leader of the group because i was really good stuff ive always been like ive had this kind of assess if i see where i do Something Like really get into it. Ive just been looking at twitter and i know says there was a you know i suspect you know and someone said of this james foley all of. This is to start for an american citizen culture. I just felt like i need to do something so thats why for it see if i can actually figure out where this taking place. The 1st i notice is it was in this kind of very dry and arid area but in the distance you can actually see a very green and fertile area and if you are familiar with the train around raca. City is a state stronghold of that point you could see this valley with this river running for a cream but the foothills around there were very dry and arid these are very dusty heavy area we can see in the distance on these individual trees so when you look at rocca this is exactly what youre seeing you see in these green valley with these hills i basically just went through and followed this line looking for similar terrain and you can see here its very very rough indeed so awful that was the likely location and then i started looking up these little background details like these trees on the road and comparing them to imagery that was visible from a line of sight once i had a possible location i published it just to see if i could generate a discussion around where this could have happened and then several months later thats when i started thinking. I really was going to come here and talk to you about a revolution but with the discussion of the post truth world it feels like a counter revolution now and its been a very peaceful and quiet revolution. Smartphones funks to social media and fights to the vast amount of information now Available Online to anyone and this revolution is allowed to new fields to grow a mile its called this field online open source investigation can use their influence the powerful with use it to challenge the powerful and we can bring them to accountability as well it used to be that the tools of Media Production were in the hands of the media. And with the rise of the internet that is no longer true. With blogging starting in 2000 and social media starting 2004 and you tube which i think started in 2005. The tools for Media Production have been given to the people formerly known as the audience. Betting cat doesnt have Institutional Support they dont have a big building at the hague. Where they do their work they actually publish very Detailed Analysis and many of them a volunteer is living at home they dont have security and so what they do is really risk a great deal to find out the truth in very complex situations that include major global play is. Essential to the regime of the people. So many of these digital. Media scenes. In the dispersant exhaust and. Miss the ship were going to put on them even if. The mission really. Is lost or so you know or my dad school so my base of us will buy you kid. If you thousands of them will mobilize you just publish a lot of fear not of who. How i got involved bella cat was that i had been following the ukraine conflict so pretty much since the beginning and then when i made 17 was shot down i got curious because passenger planes fly very high they fly that cruise at altitudes of 1010 kilometers i hadnt seen weapon systems that could reach the guy so previously what ive seen is through his stroller launched missiles that can only reach a couple of kilometers but nothing that could down on the passenger airliner. There were these pictures of all the parts of the aircraft that were starting to appear on social media and what at once it understand was that could we actually see any damage on the Aircraft Parts itself that could indicate what brought it down and thats how i got talking to that other people. There was arabic and then that to me came along as well and we sort of naturally start i suppose talking to each other that at some point that elliott reached out to all of us and said hey do you want to actually do something in a more coordinated fashion and thats how we sort of ended up as the sort of core really cuts. I was at work here in charlotte at a bank and my job was to monitor events that were going on and try to see if theres any danger or risk to the bankers employees or travelers or whatever i focus a lot on Ukraine Russia work because i started russian literature and graduate school so i knew russian and i did a lot of monitoring of things to do with russia and ukraine and i remembered seeing some news that a plane shot down over ukraine. That i 1st i thought oh its not the deal you know but another planet and shut down. But soon obviously as everyone knows realize it wasnt a ukrainian plane and then i like everybody else was wondering what was going on them or i was watching social media and i was watching a few different feeds of news and a member i had. Which is like the main russian state news channel and life news and the life news channel members stream specifically was her if they were showing the bodies it was awful should people rifling through it was just horrible horrible scene and of course you want to know who did this why did it happen and how can you bring some relief when you know justice to it. We know the trajectory we know where it came from we know the timing and it was exactly at the time that this aircraft disappeared from the radar we also know from voice identification that the separatists were bragging about shooting it down afterwards so theres a stocking here but i really want to 1st understand what was a shutdown with because that that would lead to the who did it. A couple weeks before i was 17 was shut down there was a report on voice of russia that the rebels in east ukraine had taken over this book missile base in donetsk what i 1st thought that ok its conceivable since ukraine does also have books on the rebels if they had access to the books they could have access to people as well who could operate those systems but there was only then after. After a little while 1st learning that the same missile launcher had been actually seen in russia thats really when things started like the together and sort of the russian role started becoming apparent. The way citizen journalism investigations are trusted is different than professional journalism in professional journalism you have the reputation of the b. B. C. Behind you right. And the standards of institution are the basis for trust in citizen journalism works differently trust is generated not by the brand name or the glory of the institution its generated through transparency. And so in the citizen journalism investigations what what the journalist says is not trust me im with the b. B. C. Its dont believe me heres the evidence. Syrias deadly steve is now even more dangerous with both the u. S. And russia launching airstrikes but supporting different sides. This is the markets one month before that. More than 60 people who were killed its just a market i mean there is no military airbase its not near the frontline it was a strike why would you attack civilians i mean what is the reason. The core of what i have been doing with its human rights activism with some of my colleagues we started a Facebook Group called the uprising Information Center just in the beginning 2011 we were just looking at thing where the peaceful protests were coming from. But that turned into in pointing humanize variations and workloads eventually working on doing open source analysis for cat. So if we go from the beginning so you see its like the 1st moment of the dark you see 4 rockets going into the market and we are trying to see if its a fake video may be from a different country maybe in syria but in a different time and we have seen this has happened a loved one. War. If you remember the directors often a boy that has been killed. It was just a film that they were doing and a different country even but it got a lot of traction when people use that look at whats happening in syria right but actually it wasnt happening in syria. So we need to make sure that whatever were looking its really verified its not just propaganda. So you can see the skyline and then impacting 3 of them in a pretty much the same place for the further out. So there we see the bigger impact here and then theres one further down here. Its hard to say what exactly it is but i wouldnt exclude syria from this one but in addition to this it would be really good to see the actual remnants of the bombs themselves because that then gives you more data what exactly they are and that can tell you who strike the work that heidi and belling cat have been doing is critical theyre grabbing obviously large quantities of information much of which can disappear quite quickly from the internet and preserving it so that we have it for future accountability mechanisms one of the things that hadi and the syrian archive have been doing and weve been really trying to support them in that process is figuring out how do you code and label and tag all of these videos so that if for example a legal investigator later says we want to investigate this particular crime on a particular date and particular place that they can pull up that information quickly they can explain how. They got it so that its transparent for a court of law and can then actually send it on to the investigators in a way that makes sense. And fun but even. I know its. Tough thats his arm but not now not seen when the talk goes for ever had not this being. Is assuming. Of course obvious nobbut also had a phone so i was its a mom or on our way to help such as you folks always who wouldnt i would offer here all very true but he talked. To me is helping to understand better what happened in the impact sites so what i am asking to me is if he can create a city destruction of this location so then we can go in detail and see what happened in its building hes a software bug patient always the d. M. V. Do you also einstein and bill dont just read us in pride the mood it uses more come undone. In a book to enter the only kid those issues the fake argues a lot more to it would be more does id through the. Get an update from me from timmy and hardy about the occasional bombing. The big challenge for a journalist is just if you think about workability as doing that the mount of time that it takes to go through this so we have people on their free time in the evenings you know theyre spending hours and hours going through this sea of the pressure with many traditional journalist elephants as that there are getting so tight on resources and time these days that its hard for them to actually spend enough time to sort of goal through all of as an adult lives in the way that some of the volunteer groups can. In the case of syria itself there is more hours of the conflict online now than the hours of the conflict itself its the most documented conflict in history and i dont see big News Agencies doing any work like this. The delegations dating unfounded allegations against my country are depending on. Bloggers and videos and among one of them is a very famous british citizen called ilya tegans who was online imports about the situation in syria are intensively yet mistakenly adopted by many Media Outlets as well as governments according to wikipedia and i quote ilya tegans in 2012 when he began blogging this year in situation was an unemployed finance and admin worker who spends his days taking care of his child at home. Hagans analysis of syrian weapons began as a hobby out of his home in his spare time haggans has no background or training in weapons and is entirely selftaught and he said before the arab spring i knew no more about weapons than the average x. Box owner i had no Knowledge Beyond what i had learned from an which was a nigger and rambo never been to syria doesnt speak a word as arab there and he conducts his present reset from the concept of his. And his. When i 1st saw the idea for the website of the star to thousands are searching for the club and. I base it fails just like i was still open source investigation a lot of crap. And theyre all taking anyway so in a way frank got. They were picked one so i was stuck and i confess my friend hes a playwright you know so ill ask him and quite quickly he said what about the cat. A mouse town was recently visited by a cat since then all of the mice havent got any peace so the monks decided to be rid of this county maryland knowing that they were. Having a. Pity at the time how about do you bell the cat as you seem to be the one with the great idea to me oh no. We were in the greatest ideas are nothing when they cant be done. So thi

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