E chat and share your experiences that our guest today now i would get them to introduce themselves. At tell at in the audience. Sharp thank you very good evening where members amount and i am a medical doctor by training. And Global Health policy in bioethics and am based in borgen so im going to thank you for having me oh youre so welcome good to have you on the stream tell everybody who you are. My name is full of digits in. Order to go to your and these did and what i need and god you would allow is i guess good or not. Underground to help migrants labor the other a different kind of which i was. Looking forward to that hello elizabeth. Family its always good to see you im Elizabeth Ryan and i am at aljazeera as india correspondent. So when elizabeth went to do some reporting or disagree pausing just after the extinction of indias lockdown was announced. To people in her report to migrants and they explained that with no work there was no food and that is a major issue it was the breaking point for many of these Migrant Workers. Indias Financial Capital a few hours after promised in that interim already announced lockdown continues for another 2 and a half weeks at least 1500. 00 people gathered outside a Railway Station the last 8 jobs and theyre demanding transport to take them to their home states. We arent getting anything here the government promised to provide money and other amenities but nothing has been delivered yet we have nothing to do now weve got small children and they arent getting anything to eat what should we do this im thinking now do we have a coronavirus crises in india and a humanitarian crisis which one has begun. Absolutely femi so while most people in india agree that the lockdown was necessary to stop the spread of corn a virus in a country with a very ill equipped Public Health care system a lot down without proper planning the implementation actually did lead to a humanitarian disaster and the migrants that you are talking about who went out and protested in cities around the country defying the lockdown that was after Prime Minister modi amounts of the law would be extended and when i say that it led to a humanitarian disaster im talking about the hundreds of thousands of Migrant Workers in india as a people who work in different states to where theyre from was stranded lost their jobs their daily wage earners they couldnt pay rent there was no public transport to take them back to where theyre from and they started working hundreds and hundreds of kilometers to get back and that was a humanitarian disaster and when the lockdown was extended by the Prime Minister so many of them was so scared about being stranded in this desperate situation that they were in that thats when we saw protests around the country against the extension of the lockdown by people who are desperate and just want to. Holon at such an uncertain time for everyone. I know and i want to share this tweet with most senior knew that we were going to have this conversation and they seem to teach most and a lot down millions of my going state the wages who work in cities struck without food or shelter. Most unplanned lockdowns how do you rate it. Yes i certainly a challenge i think of the fact that we went in for a National Lockdown is something which was probably an important step i think there was a sense of urgency which the government was feeling given that we had raising numbers but as a little bit was pointing out the real implication of that has been this very noble human tragedy that were seeing now economic migration is not unusual in india it happens often because this is also harvest season a lot of the individuals who come into the cities will go back home for harvest season but this particular make addition has been caused because of the lock down and if theres a culvert 19 economic migration and as elizabeth pointed out the problem is that a lot of people are stuck they are stuck in cities without access to any and sort of readers they are dependent on it all out where the food where there are russian where their groceries and that is not always coming through and also they obviously want to be with family members back home because as as would any one of us this is a time of places there is a lot of uncertainty there is a lot of you know theyre not sure if they will be able to get jobs back what will be the state of the economy so i think we could have done better and i think you know now that we have extended the lockdown there is a requirement for urgency to respond to ensure that those who are obviously very well that able in this situation their needs and interests. I just dont have any i just want to add a quick point to very quickly want to put into context the scale of the exodus that we saw it was the Biggest Movement of people weve seen in india since the creation. Independent and actually end the partition of bush and the end 947. 00. If you miss as you have said that. Before that there was. A lot of them before so you cannot. Get any of that all of the previous events and if you see that on in fort myers the log on what announced i dont going to 5th march gottman also rolled out a big package of 1. 7 1000000000. 00 and that back doored out from a pail and even even we had many stories india where the bison wouldnt od at the bottom of it and made them less believing that knowledge we have got money from god meant if you see that now we have the biggest is financially and so did no leak nor drop a double bill everyone in getting money from god meant say mr moore did it 100000000 people who will be benefited by these policies of god meant what is stated god meant taught that. We will get affected what are but a little better get affected so from good god it midnight mistakes medrol out and we will see that in coming we can come in did these are due to. Our learned lets let it go david good job we have a big scheme called monday got to dad david to get money so get out where this is. A bit of Financial Inclusion from which david get ready for good and apart from god would get many social obligations wanted to do came forward and out of money at the other and big city the big medical leg. So they all took him out and. Or or day was the great what so day all get headed by the one in 3 organization let me give you one of the nation state of art pieces in delhi its a lot of help being at least by black people mind 5000000 people they were feeding every day in different parts of india and if this. Im just going into this because i as the you tube conversation is already under way so no nonsense on you tube says. Modi is gaining wide respect for the very successful handling of epidemic. And then there is a lot of support for the way the Prime Minister this elizabeth go ahead what were going to say. What i was going to say was its true that the government has as for the age was saying Something Like 22000000000. 00 in Financial Aid to help those who were affected just a few days after the not dom was announced but we have heard from so many people the government said the finance minister that 800 people 800000000 people would benefit we have heard from so many people since then and aid just is not reaching them so there are so many people that are still really struggling and is not reaching them but as others has pointed out there are Many Organizations social organizations who are doing what they can and they are helping but the government aid itself i mean we actually havent heard from anyone who said that its reached them. So. It always said dont go d out and get a deuce to get mistake. Also coming. At all. And theyre also doing good but so do you see that i mean we had we should. All be federalism out of my goodness did god make along with this administration to look at it is just. An immediate you got to be fishing there and thats why we have we have seen that people are getting ready for get. Their dad not get help from god made site so definitely god mitchell but these. And also the just one. The point about what others were saying is that states and governments were quicker to act than the Central Government and many state governments have actually been more effective from what weve seen on the ground than the Central Government has in helping those who need it and give it i think its going to get in this game of grays hes going to. Get my car loaded. And these kind of politics but if there could not. Get crazy and all god meant about it said dont go to my buddies Good GovernmentArtistic Administration our people is deeper than get david issued blood together. Member of the west and be a member of. An article about it they should come together and they should be. Missing in india and you see. But. I also think that the you know the elected leaders have to be held to account as one especially during times of crisis i guess it is not often that as we do go in a virus updates and stories that we can share or a positive headline can do this one from the. Indian catalyst state because they have plot in the kerf this is a story that weve been running on aljazeera and then on you tube the comment is also talking about canada so precious and im from canada hello here 300 in 1000 cases reported and 273 covered this is the best example for others to show the lockdown and Health Activities by carolyn government and also essential government and. Yes were going to take what you have so i dash take a pause let me get a medical professional to weigh in here go ahead try it just i think as you know ok i was the 1st state of the. Actually i said. In there and get like it has a few advantages one it has a Long Investment in have they have a ready to go. The system theyve also faced outbreaks in the past need power brakes which happened twice in the last few years they have a garment which is expedience there also was this to marcellus garment trade up to the Community Level and that has helped them and us farming so without a doubt i think among the states probably a star performer in terms of how they have responded to the cases the other cases actually which we have not talked about beyond the economic migration is the basis of what happens to those patients who are noncarbon 18 because a lot of services are now being they wanted to over 1000 health care but there are a lot of patients who might be you know requiring cancer care immunization pregnancy care and many of them have been left in the lurch and i think that a sponsor that also has been a bit slow and that is actually turning out to be quite a worry because they had out individuals in the capital city actually reading for health care to teach them sometimes debts happening in their not being able to go back home to carry out procedures cultural. Programs etc because theyre stuck where they are so i think thats the other places we need to talk about as well so i have the question wasnt. You know i have a question for i meant on that front which is mr ban do you think that the easing of restrictions that are going to come into force from some monday from april 20th will they help those patients who have been neglected over the last few weeks do you think. It should i mean i think that it do 2 elements to it one is that i think that the National Guard as well the ministry has basically said of the main set a statement saying that they do that care for noncarbon 1000 patients has been impacted and they were put out at the instore requiring institutions especially in the Public Sector to start your way bring some of that service. Because obviously they recognize that whether they will be able to go back home i think is a big question mark it depends on what kind of public transport is made available because public transport so you know that a system which is right now shut down if its activated what it passes through multiple states i think the question mark would be if you have a state with a lot of cases would they allow the train system to be operational through that state so if i have to go from say daily to bihar or delhi to south india will i be able to travel to a state where there are still a lot of cases so those question marks out on who would that kind of transport be able to those who need it at the bottom end of the pyramid is a question whether or not everyone can take place you know you could have played Sport National but those who are right the bottom end of the pyramid will not be able to do the. So i guess i want to talk about medical professionals in india dr batty invented the hash tag docs need a he is a doctor he told us earlier on the stream that what doctors and medical professionals leave in india they need the protective clothing obviously they need to see more testing and they need security which is quite alarming to hear that in india the Health Care Workers are immediately concerned about 3 things. All health care. They must be provided but secondly we want more and more testings all the patients with influenza leg symptoms must be tested and told penger the very important thing is security of Health Care Providers and we demand from our goleman their national level. Must move them must move forward with protection so when you talked about he talks about security liz personal security can you tell us more about that please yeah absolutely femi so weve seen doctors around the world have a lack of personal Protection Equipment thats something that they all share but what i think is really unique to india is we have seen in the last 4 weeks doctors being physically attacked doctors in the state and that. Being chased and attacked on the Contact Tracing dr doctors in delhi being hit by their neighbors and you know so doctors and medical professionals in india are just fighting a lack of equipment but the stigma that that goes with coronavirus and weve had to have the indian the leading indian Public Hospital asked the government to issue an order asking landlords to not to doctors and nurses the landlords were a victim doctors and nurses they were kicking them out of their homes and delhi the government actually do. Cited to how those medical professionals in a hotel so that they would face this issue. In london just in delhi but its a pretty badass being the idea that these doctors are living in the because of their families also not just because of len lot of lives and their daughters and their son might get affected because of the call we divided by all doctors are living in these kind of places so if thats what it is goes and we had lord and. We had more than one electrician to be a did we have i dont give a 6 intelligent gazers i not so but we have that kind of. I mean theres a we had very much. And by good it will become. So they should be put out how to use this. And. Then just put this to actually talk says that hes working to help people get what the government is offering he says that its wrong to say that aid is not reaching people you actually and many young people have got together in something called the Youth Alliance against corona im just looking at the the website and its available for people to look at and also they follow you on line they can find you there as well and youre calling these young people kimono heroes what are you doing and why. So there we as you is. That its a humanitarian crisis its a big humanitarian cause and so it is not just that the sponsibility of. People along with the state of media need social obligations. We have also made an effort to get it back to govern and help people like dead love that gas in bihar and to be have one up and i just call it a lot and some behati migrants by the stand so there was one Organization Led by a lot of us and them. Just look at me you will tell and so these do have an edge and rid of what has to get out and. Migrate what are given sports are played to give kind of alliance we have we had we have more than and did social obligation body of the nation along with he told invited guests of these volunteers different cities social organization and we play to help old people missed a new idea but i think that their dark lord problems he was a player problem now they are having Mental Health problems they want to talk to someone like i am giving a small example if in this metro lake delhi it is a little late but its one of. The if someone call them dad will get what you sow he will feel better so we have done many campaigns late march in india that ve had a mosque we have done it. Like your sanitation but it got your meeting mates are not coming home but just make up. What you dont want your family so we have a. Days in alaska to get it and if it leave the out helping people on the grounds and the making do so is at liberty to give. And its. Your family i was just saying to slide nations point about you know how prepared the government is now to fight coronavirus including a number of hospitals and a quick thing Health Care Workers. Would be able to speak more about this but i think what the government has done right in the last 4 weeks it started with a very ill equipped. Public Health Care System and if there is one thing that they have done is theyve used the last 4 weeks to expand testing india was performing the lowest number of tests out of affected countries that increase testing so they have a better idea of the spread of the virus though this still not testing enough theyve acquired more equipment and expanded facilities so yes they are that is something that they use the last 4 weeks full. Out hes also talking about india administered kashmir so. Twitter tweets the Health Care System is in shambles in kashmir india he talks about the funding. To fund the military and then on youtube again the conversation from fast money myself thank you for be