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One i want to investigate the plight of thailands did on how do you fear last year if the o. P. s Prime Minister won the Nobel Peace Prize, now hes waging war in the countryside, north. What happened to democracy and whos to blame allies . 2 senior officials from both sides of the conflict in this weeks upfront special and just a few weeks, a power struggle in ethiopia between Prime Minister and the rebellious teenager, a region of the countrys north as escalated into armed conflict. Earlier this month, the government launched air raids on t. Gray after it accused its leaders to tikrit Peoples Liberation front or p. L. F. Of attacking a military base. The t. P. O. Left denies the attack, but with communications down and video barred. Its impossible to verify claims made by each side. Now, 100 supported killed tens of thousands fleeing to neighboring sudan and missile attacks on eritreas capital. There are fears the conflict could spill beyond borders and trigger a humanitarian crisis. Joining me to defend at explain the t. P. O. Lets position is best to samer, an advisor to the Regional State government of tikrit and former ambassador to the u. N. Mr. Fess out to same. I thank you so much for joining me on outfront. Thank you for having me. So youre a member of the Peoples Liberation front, the t p l f, which ruled ethiopia for almost 30 years until 2018. When i became the Prime Minister. Now your party has been basically feuding with him ever since then. Or now the situation has deteriorated into war bombings, massacres, rockets fired into eritrea and deepening ethnic divisions. What happened to democracy for this show for did not rule for the city. For the last 30 years, that has to be corrected. You are the dominant party though. What if it was the dominant, it must stop being because it was a Prime Minister who was dominated the party because of his intellect and what have you, but thats a lot the whole world wants to believe that tippit is some minority under 7 or 6000000. People who are dominating if you appear, but i beg to differ that if it is not administering any part of the country except its own region, how to set off to cry. Did bad things happen for the 27 units . Yes, i had one that is i didnt come out of nowhere. He was a member of the leadership. He was a member of the Central Committee executive committee, head of the national security. What have you before, including the took care of and the other affiliated parties. And im going to say the idea of did accept the responsibility and they wanted to do for me. We stick with taking the development output to feet. But what he just said earlier, the shortcomings in the problems that we have. Why did i view, do he believe . Is the program of the country on the ticket . If he demolished the fair that allowed him to mint egypt eyes in multinational country. We have been out of intimate affair that i listed. Even if you want to do that, you have to go through the corners to should he divided his political thinking among what you call of friends that are versus you need to state it so that if you had a fuse to participate in this kind of what you have going for the last century or so. And so you had said ok. And some of these things that you are saying are valid concerns. And we plan to put that to the other guest that we have and speaks on behalf of the government. But i have more questions for you in the meantime. So the team p. L. S. Had an opportunity to join the unity government and december and, and you did and you turned it down. Why . Because the Political Party throws part of the party, you need to appeal this fall. Is this a unique to the state he is getting read off the faded out of enjoyment. Again, its just you should that to feel if paid over 60000 feet is due to young people, i guess it does to getting avalos the fear that i didnt order the mission and nationality should big have an exam. So therefore with the help of is how yes, you know them are either you have just photocopied what he wants to be, you need to know for that or not. And you meant so that the creative said no, its not me, were not. So youre saying 40 people, i say are saying that he felt that it wasnt in your partys best interest. Im actually glad that you brought up eritrea. Lets talk about that right now because there is a concern that what is happening between abbys government and the t. P. Left could spiral beyond ethiopias borders. This past weekend that spokesperson, pataki read it confirmed that the team had fired rockets on quote, military targets. Not anything but in eritrea on the capital asmara that certainly seems reckless. What is the goal. d what is too great trying to accomplish, doing this to eritrea . Let me tell you about the background to a fair trial and the Current Situation and if you appear to it could be for us to see 1st answer. The question just what it was. I am going to answer the question, but you have to have the background. What has happened is, you know, the current. d will notice and the period if you did fight side by side to get rid of the court order to move to a city jim not into war. And in 1908 is how yes opened a war against you taking a border issue as an excuse. He was defeated and he has a good idea, is it to go to people in the to be and if before that time. But i missed it was in each of the Defense Forces where mainly the how of the 100. So i said i could afford it, youre giving, let me finish. So here i said, i hate to destabilize and didnt know they would you that i side by side what we have thanks. Crossing the border before that to appear. If that is what i was thinking, those are party seeking regime change and to destabilize eritrea. It is not, it is not there to feel if its business secure. That is human, i was, it is protecting itself. I do, you know, its only what we say yes. Yes, us get it because you can confirm it from the sources of the south sudan government. He has asked the 450000 soldiers to defeat, to go to the border that the forces into that incited to go back. They had to destroy the border town number. So i guess it added into so that ok, so eritrea, so i would, id let you have your time. So just a moment eritrea does deny that i want to talk. Now more about the human toll about what is happening. Amnesty international confirms that likely hundreds of people were either stabbed or hat to death and make in the region almost 27000, people have fled the country. Hundreds of people are dead. Families are being traumatized. Thousands of people are homeless. Is all of this worth it for the fight for autonomy . Enough you know, its a single last resort is internal. So if your mom knows about it is the target and people are defending themselves against to a tyrant. Right. They didnt look cross no border. They did not fight, they did nothing to be. You completely one just people and this is if it should be, it should be in the conditions of the people in the International Community that have a license to own citizens. So its very good to decide is a very strong word in a lot of whats happening in the region. Unfortunately, its very difficult to confirm because the region is so is so cut off. But just to be clear, when you Say Something like that, you talk about the outside world. What happens at the t. T. L. Left cannot count on khartoum to facilitate links to the outside world, as it has in the past, i mean, is landlocked as landlocked. Pardon me, between the rest of ethiopia, eritrea and sudan, the really is not a lot of connection to the outside world, but khartoum is not in the same position that it has been in the past to facilitate any of this. What happens to the tepee, a lot of it cannot count on khartoum to facilitate that. Whats happening . First of all, if i am telling you, if you doubt, and if it is not true, you should ask the International Community. The media like the b. B. C. To be out allowed to go into the ground to get our it is completely equal, not off. There is nothing thats come out the Government House because it has the media because International Coalition is. But this wouldnt come out one of the states, i am sure, including by international media. The International Community should call for an immediate cessation of hostilities and all part of the should come to no bush, you can table that has to be a money center and kowtow to suck. Are you concerned that this could erupt into a proxy war . It is already going to, you know, war i just told to editor i was there, you have said that about eritrea. Eritrea has denied that. Are you still concerned that it could become broader than that . There is a possibility of gulf rivalries being ignite and how concerned are you about that . It is already there. You know, if you, if theyre determined to deny that i said, look, i am here to new york talking to many countries. They do have their own sites and i think they know many constitutional whats happening is a very good. They just want to look the other way. So editor is involved, he just sank into if you dont take my word for it, i ask for they took piano government to allow you to go to the im going to tell me what they are, what is the end goal for the t. P. L. F. What is it that you want for ethiopia that to get out of people who wanted to live in peace as you call it was a restore one on the 10000000 into a pianist. No more nor less. They went to a new set of themselves. They were not accept that tight on the government dictating them like it was happening the last 3 days, snuffy. So it was out of me. They have been doing this out for 2527 years. They dont want to give up on that. Believe me, that ryssdal, if you cant be honest, also wanted to do that, they guess dont to have this strong defense, that the guy people now for know has this government has weak killing the omo. So what i thought was for 2 and a half years it took, we have been known for this before, that a spirit in is to leave was it if you look at so long as they had a suspect, as their culture is a suspected, they couldnt be satisfied in the state. Ok, i want to ask you one last question. What is your message to the people of ethiopia beyond t. . Great people are scared and some of them might even say that this conflict is about a power struggle between the elites and has nothing to do with them. Whats your message to them . The 1st my duty to you. If youre a pianist, no venue where this is not the parser going to court as the violinist, that killing half the displacement has been, you know, all part in all of that. If youre about to get out for the last 2 years, weve both to come to a negotiating table. People are suffering, people are dying and therefore they feel if hes ready to do that, government is ready source that inclusion for their political thinking that has to participate. We need to go toward negotiations and come out of the political solution. Otherwise, yes, this is good. I know by many standards just too strong a National Academies for special forces from a very mobilized but they have no 2 exams to live that have a history. That will be the final word. Thats a to say my thank you so much for joining us on a project. Next step, im joined by zytiga, prague. Prime minister. Ill be at metz minister in charge of democratisation who until last year was actually a member of the t. P. L. F. Himself. So take a broad thank you for joining me on up front. A year ago at the obvious Prime Minister was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize at the time. This is what he said. Its very striking. He said, war is the epitome of hell for all involved. I know because i was there and back now he is bombing part of his own country. The country is on the brink of civil war. What happened see years ago, the people of ethiopia now split the loan. If you have to say, how do you know forth, if you get it, its better still to believe was given the chance to believe it was too good to be resistant. But instead youre doing it is a really key. And then you can use this go isnt, lets talk about how things have escalated so far and how to deescalate that. And, so the u. N. Secretary general and tony, good terrorists, actually called for immediate measures to deescalate tensions and ensure a peaceful resolution to the dispute. The t. V. Regional president has publicly appealed to the African Union to mediate this conflict. Yet abhi outlet has refused offers of mediations. He says, this is an internal affair and it, and assuring the rule of law, why wont the Prime Minister allow mediators with for one thing, we have to be part of those initiated them to be forces of change for the past 3 years, to believe choice to be here and i dont know that betty let well let me out in that many of the hands of the just a moment in the day. You know, that was all of us just a moment though. Why, why wont the Prime Minister allow mediators well, you know, who will, who, which government would see in their wishes we see dont in which it was a terrorist group that chose to kill our school because we had to do it to defend it. Again, people from a force with no mission, this government, when it comes to peace, cannot be questioned. We are the ones that are suited to get a loan. Tell me to eat it too good. It is the party that was so to do this piece. Today of how is normal and to question, oh im going to go into the waiting just a moment. Some of us only call them a terrorist group. Thats a very, very harsh language, a group of which you were recently just a part of. But are you saying that there is no way to have any type of dialogue . The Prime Minister is a Nobel Prize Winner. Are you saying that he cannot sit down with this fellow countrymen be at the, the t. P. S. Later to sort out some sort of nonviolent solution . He spoke with eritrea and work things out. Is there not a way for him to deal with, with regional governments that something that if he has to fail if spokesperson has even call for these out in total, out of their countrymen, the People Choice to shoot in the forehead of our sort of yes, i do sleep, these people try to loot and it is how doing that. That would have meant to political people from any place you put in addition, this season, it is in this act of maximum sort one that one can possibly imagine. You cannot sit down, you cannot be asked what i did, but i am stunned that you had serious allegations about that. But the un human rights chief has warned that the situation could spiral out of controls that war crimes may already have been committed. More than 2 27000 refugees have fled to sid and Mc International supported large numbers, potentially hundreds of deadly hackings in an stabbings. Integrate just last week, which ever side is responsible in a lot of this is very difficult to confirm from from either side because of a blackout there. Whichever side of responsible are you saying that that a dialogue to stop this is just completely off the table and that it has to be force to give it if it is noise that it more than parties, its believed. Even as i was informed that he said, i know this because a country and as it isnt going to be easy, simply trying to bait so that it will be needed to cause havoc to the country. So the military increases the citizens. But you know, this is a serious thing. We know not what is its going to be disdained by any standard. You know, if you call that a terrorist group, and i do want to point out that you are not willing to sit down with the representative from the team for a debate on this program. Thats why were conducting these separate one on one interviews. But i do want to put some of the allegations against the Prime Minister from the t. V. Tail off to you because they are very, very serious. So folks per cent call the Prime Minister of violence, entrepreneur who is using Security Forces to suppress dissent, kill and maim hundred