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So what happens once they make its impact to have a special investigation . 1. 00 oh, 1. 00 east of chinese, my friends, the American Dream is, was there risk and the sacrifice on out to 0 . Would you join a protest if it would land you in jail . Would you criticize your government . If you could get you killed . They say young people are the future, but in the system dominated by one man, 10 russians, jen z, bring about any. Well change. Im on and these forces in this is this tree. The passport is a part of your credit because i no longer wants to be a citizen of the country that permits or crimes against your premiums. And that goes into the russians. Will head to the polls in march, but the results are a foregone conclusion with most of the opposition and exile jail were killed. Today we focus on what keeps young people in the country hopeful in a different future. Here to discuss this with me are 3 russian political activists pulling aria, or they can nova, who joins us from the u. E. U yet did silva, who joins us from montenegro. And on a was joining us from an undisclosed location in russia, and has asked us know to show her face for fear of the repercussions of joining this conversation. Thank you all so much for joining us here on the stream on the ill start with you what youre doing. Joining this show is quite dangerous in todays russia. Um, can i ask you why you still believe it was important for you to come and talk to us about your vision for the future of your country . Um i joined you today because uh if i have a sub facility to speak even with the the sub low to much of my face. I even not to mention in the location and the why. So name i want so to speak. And i want to share their real you much. Whats happening now and brush me pulling are and you were turning 21 later this month, but you actually started your activism even earlier. Can you tell us about how does this all come about of the um, the point of entering a world of ballistics where we started because nobody how it was a lot of, uh for a lot of people of my generation. So i would say when i was for 2 years old, i was uh, you know, like in my school they lived close, close the school, close all the doors so that we could, and i was living in the board as well so that they couldnt go out and go through the process and i remember i was jumping from my school to go and joining the students to i think thats how thats how it all parties, even from the age of i could see that something was going wrong in my country. And i really wanted to miss lambs, its somehow. 5 you and yeah, what about you, when did you start disagreeing with the political establishment in russia . I did something particular happen for you to say, right . I need to get involved here. Well, actually i was quite a police go for for a very long time. Then i own decided football kind of protest and itll be an interest it when i was already like, think or something. So um, oh, when basically when the, when they ran for man in moscow. So that was 2013 to the phone. The uh, well, uh i, uh before that moment i always told that people who are protesting they just have nothing to do or Something Like that. And uh, hes gonna band changed everything. Um, youre both mention devonie. Hes definitely been a source of inspiration for many people, a long generation, arguably, the most prominent opposition figure in russia, in the aftermath of the announcement of his desk, this video resurfaced and went quite viral. Lets take a look. He was just coming in from the navy news though. Its not the human just that. What . So yesterday at the police, us look at those my change to meet me up a connected via and receiving me with my me. Im going to send you to shoot even you will be there in the sports, which of a single . Yes, no, thats a prominent tungsten. Wait, a girl may use your good daughter. Yeah. Not cold. Its about getting your dont what they took, what she walk, if the wife least with almost when you moved or massage night. And this will just be your store that this to us live at the beach to buy some of these. Do you not on . I wanted your take here. Um, would you agree that the vonny was a symbol of hope in a different future and how did his death affect you and the people around you . Uh uh yes. Uh she was uh, definitely the symbol and uh, role model. Uh for most of uh, uh, russian people um, who are engaged uh go to the system. Uh and uh, i know, uh lets now they are uh, 3 and then they, uh they basically lost their home. Uh beds uh after the this uh grief. Uh, i am pretty sure that it will uh come more stress for all of us because uh as uh nobody is just like, well, if you set in this video and they are a free agent of people. And uh, so uh, uh, such a big National Loss will leads uh, to the rates. And, uh, i think a lot of people that are in direction now they ask us. And even if they believe somehow our governments now are they are pretty sure that they do something really bad. But the stakes are also very, very high. Usually what about the Pro Democracy Movement more generally . Are you worried that you might dont know, crumble without in a valley or as i just mentioned, do you think we are witnessing the birth of a legend here and this will actually reinforce people to fight for a different future. To me, i know actually i know that optimistic, i mean i do believe that the people who are being who, who have been following the law in his investigations and everything and just uh, well who they put me in watching closely. It was getting on that definitely feel reason they want to do something, but for most people i think its just the loss of hope and Something Like that as well. For example, i was contacted by one of my followers almost around just yesterday. And she said that she never went anywhere to any kind of protest. And on friday when the wrong, his death was announced, she went to put some flowers to to some immoral or something. And after the 2 days later, she was contacted by the Police Officer and now she said it was gad. And she told about its too old to france to her husband, to the brother to everybody at school. She says that i know im going to just stay at home and all of my relatives. Busy my friends, we are going to stake why . Because this is just nonsense, like i didnt do anything wrong and they saw how they found me like 2 days later and i wanted it to delta Something Like, oh, dont worry the brain just go put more flowers. But its easy for me because im not in rush anymore. So i know that ultimately, to be honest and before and of all these death, his daughter dosher spoke about her fathers wish for russians to united against a lot more improvements. Taking us in one of my fever chance my dad used to do during the 2011 to 2014 protests and moscow was one for all and all for one. This is the phrase that were all familiar with. But most of us often forget dictators like who didnt want us to forget it. As they want us to forget how strong we can be when we work together. They want us to forget how much we can accomplish when we stand side by side. A pulling are you are joining us from the you a today. Um, are you also, lets say no. So up to mistake about the future of this movement. I mean, how much more difficult have things gotten for activists in an outside of russia to continue campaigning for just a different reality. I completely agree that a lot of people in read sure, a lot of people that that took me from inside of much of my family. They still stayed there, my friends and then told me to, to be honest, they dont have any hope left. You know, theyre just tired but nobody knew that its really all the same. Gave me more energy into the suns the i you will be as oh, look as a lot of pressure people, the fuel, if you read the fuel, do reach and i feel like for a lot of people, now this range is the source of action. This range of stuff can be converted, the actions against the foxes produced government. Um, you mentioned leaving russia in march 2022, thats shortly after russias invasion of ukraine and many of the activists. We have been speaking say that that was a watershed moment. Really that things have gone much more difficult since then on on. I want to get your take here. Would you agree that things have gotten significantly more difficult since russias invasion of ukraine and how people are just today unable to go outside protests, even if theyre carrying a white piece of paper . Ah, yes, its, uh, became uh, definitely worse. Um, because uh there are some really crill lot now and uh shows um it is uh becoming, it has become worse and its uh we will be a worse i think. But also uh, i can agree with that, you know, ends up with an ira as it so people now they are afraid. So because of the money may be in presumptive and for i, as you mentioned, taking the, just the sheet of paper. So, um you yeah, you, you mentioned how much more difficult things are likely to get in your opinion. If you guys are part of a generation that have known nothing but life under log me a put in um is that because of the narratives that were around you guys taught in school, etc. And how do you go about changing that . Do you have any hopes that people, the people of russia could choose Something Different . Mm. Not, not, not now. Definitely. I dont know. I, i dont, i dont believe in some kind of a change like, uh oh too many protesters will go out and something will change and button will look down from travelling and he will say, all of that, tell me it to me and people are going on very happy with what im doing. Okay. Ill retire. I dont believe in the us. I, the only option is like some kind of coded or some something we lease or i dont know, its all portions data or Something Like that because people want to scan even though theyre, theyre not very many people who are not to is actually very happy with what theyre getting on people are a twos gant, and i believe they have some kind of a wrong picture about their basics. I mean, i dont want us say that while everybody do, all this is completely safe. I wouldnt be outside russia if it was the case, but to get into real trouble, you need to be a, it needs to be either. No, its very lucky like really not lucky. Or you have to kind of do lots of things like id, like ive addressed it many times and this is why, well, my next case might be uh, like a it might mean real present. So this is wireless. But you could just go out if you just, um, well, but while you can get a fine, you can get the rest as for, i dont know a few days and then youll get in trouble. Maybe when the Police Officers will come, come by every now and, and well ask you like i, you okay, im going to protest again or Something Like that, but its it, but its not like youre going to do it right away. Oh, there, there is the 400. 00 plus people that were detained for, i dont know, just laying flowers for devonie. You say that they are not risking that much, at least if that is the 1st time that theyre out. But if this is the 3rd or the 2nd, the 3rd, the 2nd of the 3rd time, maybe that that will be dangerous. And also the previous, um, the previous decision of the court uh should already kind of take place. Uh should i dont call him coming to paula whatever the time is the legal time. So its not, oh, well, i can even get to rest a few times or uh like 5 or something, but you have to, uh, kind of have but 3 uh, real Court Rulings against you so that it becomes a real or 2 to yeah, the 3rd one is uh, the 3rd one means game. So thats my case. So i was arrested to more than uh, 2 times. Oh, but optimize it and no, im sorry, good to official decisions. I had to leave because next time would mean do that sounds quite so real though to live in an era where you have to calculate how many times youve been detained for. Yeah, going out in the street. Oh, yeah, im pulling are, you are also detained. You also got yourself into quite a lot of trouble. You actually got married the day russia invaded ukraine, then you went out to protest once again. And again, you took the difficult decision to leave your family behind and leave russia. Would you say that most russians, Young Russians of your generation today want change or are they just, i dont know, just so lost and so hopeless about what you just said. There is not a possibility that many people will look down at a mass of protests and resign. So theres really no change coming any time soon. To be honest. So things like, Blood Pressure are like any other people in any other country is some of my friends and people who stay in the shop and theyre like me, you know, theyre full of reach and paid for the total loss for the country. And they do want to change other people, for example, for example of my family to do it from. Of course this time its the most cannot simply just work and people there. Um, oh, they leave in the actual property. And even so my young friends from there, you know, they dont have their interest like the will of politics or do your politics. It just wont do you not to eat to the been, you know, to take care of their family. So of course it depends. But i would say that the majority of young people, i know, of course the one change because i said people from russia, theyre like any other people from any other country. They would also be going to the freely people on to normal future. Going to be normal People Living on the be shumate. So thats how the people here to its interesting you, you bring a picture of a rush or that we rarely see um, obviously this, this russia that is struggling to feed their children kind of thing. But um on, uh, what about this change that weve been talking about here . How do you go about making it a reality that and because i mean there are president ial elections coming off on march 15th, would you are you planning on even going out to vote . Uh yeah, im going to go to it. So, and im definitely going to vote thats, i know thats a little too. Uh my friends, they just are, they are not a political, but the, i dont see any sense in uh go in and vote for many young people. Uh, just uh they are, they gets used to leave in this feeling of uh they can do nothing. Hm. Even if they want it to be against, uh, the actual government. Um youd, yeah. What would you say it would take for the russia on the, her dreams and aspirations, the russia youve been fighting for when you took to the streets and took those risks and were detained multiple times. What will it take for that russia to emerge . I didnt know, i think i think this and i, i dont really, i dont really believe in some uh, clue change it because make too many people into protest. But the elections actually is. Uh the what was the 17th of march is it is a good day up to, to do something because it is completely legal. You can go to the balls and just vote and no, but you can ask you to stay at home, especially with this uh, ideal um is it getting deposed at the same time uh, uh at midnight. So this is quite, quite an unusual time actually to vote because, well, ive been, i web and the elections and usually its not like the most popular time people usually call me about the later in the evening. And so to 12 oclock, just in the afternoon, thats a good time for everybody who doesnt support what is going on to just come in vote. And just to see that there are, there are many people. So it will probably, it will not change anything. But at least people will feel some kind of unity, or they will see the neighbors for the 1st time and they will understand why they are there. So if, if i way rush, i would definitely do that. What about you . Im pulling aria. What do you think you will take for the russia that you hope will emerge on day . What . What will it take for that to happen . Definitely number the selections that are coming into the middle of march. And the think um for this bribes, russell future to call the 3012. We should really change the tactics and change the attitude. Uh, richard kendrid oldest here says a position before the war because the thing that arbor comes to the machine has changed a lot. And now i dont even think we need to focus that much on the selection of that theyre coming in. Because you know, as it sounds like it will not change absolutely anything. And i dont think that you should even yeah, we should be able to focus on any type of um, word that we were doing because for example, i was also working on elections. I was working in political headquarters for a position and candidates, and now i think of our, of instruments the need to change according to the change of the region. So i would say that to see our beautiful restaurant will future really need to sense this love for our country and do reach that we have. And china phillips in um, i would say qualitatively on other options that theyve been doing before. And i take take, put in baltimore while im with protest, if any people that can afford it so much more radical measures in your opinion from here. And i can jump in please. Su