Hello and welcome to the program and serve any a as israels brutal war continues and checked guns. As 2400000 people now face the imminent risk of famine. One of the worlds most densely Populated Areas has been reduced to medieval conditions by is really a tax and cruelty. Its forces have killed almost 32000 people and wounded 74000. The injured and named rely on the Health System. Its either destroyed or under direct attack. Those who have managed to survive, no face immediate danger from starvation and disease. With only a trickle of supplies reaching, garza destroyed Water Supplies and sanitation systems, meaning everyone is at risk of infection. Meanwhile, the United Nations discusses resolutions. Western leaders wring their hands and appeal for restraint. Despite some having supplied israel with vast quantities of weapons being used to destroy gaza. So what can stump israels leader, Benjamin Netanyahu and his government genocidal war . How much time is left for the people . Have gaza . Will be discussing all this and more with our guests and just a few moments 1st though, this reports from michael socially the daily struggle for survival for the millions and jordan is, was booms and, but its a mean the date is the most, some can hope for 5 months, if its reads, relentless bombardment has left 1100000 palestinians hoffe of cause Us Population facing catastrophic levels of hunger as well as leaving me at the goss. This trip is dying slowly, if not from the missiles, then from hunger, if not from hunger, then from dehydration. In northern dosa, theres virtually no food available. When animal bowed feed has run out families the pounds to survive. You and back for both says simon, is imminent. You for them policy chief joseph brand has accused as well of creating the conditions plus toleration and using it as a weapon. No, for nga, we on no long island on the bidding of, i mean, we are in a state or funding affecting housing of people as well. Is provoking for me they just unacceptable. Starvation is used as a weapon or will yes, this database shouldnt as use as a weapon on. Well, lets, lets say that or not the question. Also like with physicians for blige, international requests, as well as an occupying power to ensure people receive food and medical supplies. Garza has 7 land crossings, but only to drop off and cut in a bu selling are open for food and a 10 of the books. Tom says, just so will 15000 trucks have been allowed in since october 7. But this rattle began. Its florida on cause thats less than 20 percent of the minimum required to chat. The says lendy is really security check. So holding up crucial live saving 8 is well denies limited supplies and planes. Humanitarian agencies for failing to distribute to those in need. 8 convoys and palestinians nearby had been attacked by his Friendly Forces is rarely professed as have obstructed convoys to still have us what we do if we connect them now, fighting stops, you have full access. Theres huge commodities of central things like pool water medicine going in. It can still work is found accused of genocide at the International Court of justice. Its really Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu has no plans to stop to. Despite international warnings, not to, hes vowing a land invasion of the rough or the last place of refuge for the 1000000 palestinians were forced to move the by the is fairly ministry for palestinians in gaza. This know, despite but the from is really strikes hospitalization and to seize on the consumption grief ill just 0 for inside story as well. Otherwise, the agency thats been the backbone of delivery of basic services in a to palestinians in the occupied territories for 75 years. Sam rose is the agencies director of planning on joining us from rafa, sam palestinians in the north, as we know. And as weve reported, have already begun to starve to death. 23, approximately in the last 2 weeks as the largest state organization in gaza, kind of on the was still a vert, a large scale fan, and we will. And then the situation would get very serious if, if options one site can, and very, very sadly intrinsically those, those conditions have come to pass. But we are in a position where we can take an action to prevent an already very catastrophic situation from getting and fall off to us and, and for that to happen, we need to happen. We need to start and now we need to start yesterday. We need to increase the access to ghost coming in opening of more crossings into a gauze, and we can continue to service the population and then know are already in the highest category of, of, of, of starvation and hunger from the south. And we need to start serving them from the north and more importantly we need a sustained c, sorry. Its only with us or cited c, 5 at 80 or other required conferences, can get it. And, but also the commercial site. So can start opening up again and bringing in the supplementary materials that people really needed to meet the basics of life. And also, you know, weve seen of a trickle more 8 as you know, reach northern gauze or recently, and you said what currently cannot reach palestinians in northern guys . Its been the case for a while now. So recently we seem to come and boys of trucks make it to the north. Weve seen one boat delivery and weve seen some air drops. And so some of our viewers might think, well, this is good news in the sense that its the start of something right to the start of more 8, especially to the north as director of planning for an want and someone who knows what it takes to feed an entire population at scale. Can you speak to that little bit of aid that weve seen going it . It is certainly measured in the situation was before. Uh but it, so relative, given that nothing else was guessing in before that and its been incredibly difficult just to get a trickle going. Uh, the un we tried, uh, we were seeking uh, approval and permission to go know almost every day. In february, only 25 percent of those missions was approved or when they are approved. As you say, theyre bringing in 10 truck set, bringing in 16 trucks. Theyre bringing in 20 trucks. This really is a draw in the ocean in terms of loss need and what are we bringing . It really is the basics. Its allow us a so and so its comes through. These are the types of foods that can, can provide a minimum color orange inside. So the minimum number of calories that people need, but they all fall off from a nutritious diet. People need new traitors, my car and nutritive sending. Fitzsimmons for somebody to see, they need fresh, fresh. Fergus . Nothing on top about it isnt just the the food situation. Its the water situation. The sun, a nation situation. The almost complete breakdown of the Health System as well as country music. Uh, im sorry for a 2nd. Can i jump in . Because this is important, you said that you have been seeking every day approval. So that would be from israel approval by israel to send aid convoys up to the north, and most of them the majority of been rejected. What is the rationale, the israel . Just to clarify, this was in february that the you and the sol permission for 20 full missions to, to the north. This is the un us as a whole, not only 6 of those 24. 00 emissions. One reason why is really the various reasons, incentives of a issues with, with paperwork kinda and approvals, processes. It might be to do with the types of items that we were seeking to bring in as i saw some very difficult to understanding what the russian now is as those of us whove been working here for, for some time. No, the agency isnt under, as you said at the top of the show has been here for 75 years. We are an a situation where im fine. Awesome. We just received a no, we dont get clarification as to why permission we have not been in grounds. That is why appears to be a lead arbitrary or fabric dysfunctional system. Sam rose, director of planning for unwinding Largest Agency and gaza. Thank you very much for your time today. Lets bring in now our panel in room. We are joined by francesca of the easy who is the you in special ref . Whats her for the occupied palestinian territory in brussels . We have our one honda whos the middle, the Senior Advisor for advocacy and policy of the agency. Mercy corps which is operated in gaza since the eightys and in southern gaza. We are joined by fit on a raj and aid worker with aust. Them who lives in gaza if you dont let me start with you and youre also in addition to being in an ox fam worker. And well tap into your professional specialty in just a moment since you live in gaza. And i, i know youve told us on previous shows that youre also a mother of 5. Id like to know how your family is doing, how your children are doing and how you have managed to put food on the table over the last 5 and a half months. And um, yeah, thank you for having a um, this is actually a very difficult question. How we do. Were just managing to survive. How we do it is very difficult to answer. As i said, how do i put food on this day . But for my family is even more difficult to answer it. And its, uh, there is a huge light in the absence of whos commodities, isnt the markets to find, even if you have the cash to buy it, which is also something very difficult to get by for all of guns or fast at the button. There are the solution into that for you and you dont find anything to buy, even if you have the money. There is no produce fresh for the jews. We havent seen fluids in more than 5 months. We can find most or the kinds of visitors in the market. There is no full trade. There is no means there is no, any kind of the animal through to, you know, eggs you know, manic. Its really difficult to find something in the future. So you try to find something just to survive by and its main weekend food and dried food. And yeah, i go through the struggle every day. What am i gonna cook . How am i gonna secure the ingredients . And what can i do . The substitute you, theyre missing ingredients, and lets not forget that we are almost to the middle of the fostering mazda grandmother, which makes it even more difficult because im not going to speak of how we used to have them on down before what we used to have on our news before, but the minimum of the new additions to have for a fasting get eh, person is not nearly available. So its very difficult for so the everyday. So youre like new starting today and youre asking yourself, what am i getting a goal today . You dont decide because the there is something that comes to your mind or because there is it a gauge and or because there is something in season. Oh, but usually me planning. The scenario is not bad. You just look around. See whats available. Its very listen very, the very, very little to try. And then you start thinking how to cook. Theres like, we dont even have access to cooking guys to diffuse a, to even to this, to, for a fire would to been the fire. Its very difficult. So also may think of a food is not as easy as you can imagine. Are what youre with mercy, core, mercy core has trucks. As i understand it, waiting to go in, can you, weve touched on this before, but can you explain to her of yours . Why theyre not going in right now. I said, thank you. I know lets just to start by seeing what she has just shared with us is 100 percent preventable. Were not dealing with a minute, simon and guys because of a Natural Disaster because of an, as, as greg, its a hand made hand made. And so theres a death is preventable and there are very concrete steps at actions if they are taking today. We can stop this from happening in terms of them again, isnt it . Of a delivery that is being implemented right now is one of the key drivers for the humanitarian catastrophe that is in god. So the inspection, because in the, uh, the ability of what uh, items are allowed or not allowed to the um, deductible schedules and requests changing requests that come from those radio. So it is about what was in the trucks or not. Uh, they are able to view things to this humanitarian situation. The fact that that has the gaza has many land crossings that are being blown except 2. And even these 2 crossings have very limited capacity of an access to blend all the direct lightning up on the other side. And this is a key driver for the situation. We have seen efforts by the International Community and governments doing air drops and building up here and goes a name because his name that can deliver more aid, upscale and gaza is woke up. We just need to look at the conditions of whether this is meeting that needs, whether this is providing a security, a safety for the people who are receiving this aid. And for the aid workers ward that you think this is a, its very clear that these conditions are not in place. What can make these conditions in please is a payment of full ceasefire images of his fire opening up the crossings because the ard was sent up to deliver it a skills and stop babies and children from dying from malnutrition, on hunger. Stop all this bit of a disease is that is being caused by the level of water and drinking on save on the water. So there are concrete actions that can be politically with the political will be implemented. And then tomorrow we can start to we can say that all the human attendant organizations are lined up and are redid to scale up that the human 30th day that it deliveries and physical dishes are in place. Okay, you know, but you mentioned stop babies from dying. Im going to put a pin in that and i have a question for you for the on that and the depths of incense in particular. Ill get to that in just a moment. Francesco, been easy. Lets bring you into this conversation. Youre the you in special rep or terrific human rights and palestinian territories is, is real deliberately starving palestinians. Yes, i would say so. So 1st, so let me with things in context because it seems that there is the important, the government that is missing from the conversation in this context that hes the buying power has the response and the delivery itself a den relief to the finest, dancing god, the who are the protected people to protect the population, although is the leads them as the end of the, a little sign entity of the whole. Hes well is not doing that, but it, is it talking, destroying remove the brands layer rendering. Use this all checks that are in despite and support for survival because it is well it has heat the, the, the, the fishing boats, the unable as was see that was saying there is no way to produce food anymore and got so even what was necessary in the school, its absolutely rocks on the, the, the betterment of the conditions intended deeper. So yes, easterling by aging black and leaves franklin frank, monthly, international and whining starting have know and provoking and using started ration as a method a war. But there is another element here because in independent experts of the United Nations and refutable scholars have been talking on the general side general science. It can be provo to, to intentional starvation because the government calls the no trust me by a near to me, which by the way, hes really storing because he does scale the over 30 does of people it doesnt during the over 70000 people. And even when he got the key or directly the members of the printer, oh, its creating the condition. We try how it can be to, to bring about the destruction of the policy as, as a protective group of functions for, to be says, allow me to just want to be very clear as an International Lawyer. Where are you on this question of whether or not genocide is occurring . We know, of course, is real stands accused of genocide at the International Court of justice. I would also note for a few words that you had warned early on with other experts you had warned of the risk of genocide occurring in gaza. And ive seen some of your more recent quotes earlier this year saying its very likely that genocide is occurring. Where are you on that . Now . Id be spending the laughter for monster managing, investigating, providing context, analyzing israel, this conduct all those cds, each row statements of statements by political leaders and media, sorry, leaders and actions of the troops on the ground. And i concluded that each row is for meeting generals. How, you know, we present a reporter for the team to record to, to the Human Rights Council next week on the subject. Oh this, i dont believe this was known. You so youre, youre telling us that there you are as again you in special rep return. This is your job. You, you provide reports that illuminate the situation and give context in your capacity and capacity as an International Lawyer. Youre going to get a report saying that yes, genocide is happening in your view. Yes. Are we very cool. All right, we explain the facts of the complex and the legal analysis to argue why. So that is, i mean, i concluded that these are the change on assignment of setting before setting the force together with other birds. She said, how much did you lead t y now . Okay. Uh, that will certainly make news when that report is published, will look out for it should uh uh, back to you we were talking about babies dying. And it is just the fact that in any population, when there is a storm nation occurring, its the most vulnerable who die 1st. And that means infants. And after that you have pregnant women like tating women, you have patients of chronic a chronic illnesses. You have the elderly, but you start with incense, so starving a population really what it means is, is killing the next generation in this case of palestinians. Accent, they are, the francesca was, that clearly says a exhaust is or is committing genocide. And so anyways, getting off sick, the upcoming generation is something theyve been actively doing by targeting babys killing sugar. And like thousands and thousands of children are killed. Thousands of 1000 like 17000 children are list unaccompanied because either they lost all of their families or theyre separated and can be or united with their family. It is. This also is a targeting over children of the upcoming generation and huge numbers getting off infants and even started getting medical facilities making. Its almost its stream li, difficult, almost impossible for a pregnant women to give birth and save conditions as also can engulf and friends. And i believe you were saying the water is a Drinking Water and preventing access to supplies to a baby formula to meet a certain feeling medications. And then uh, supplements, and nutrition, and supplements. Its all actively participating and command golf the upcoming generation. As a mother of 5 children, as you are there,