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The bottom line. We all inherit many things from all families, stories sheet fire in highlands. There is Something Else we can inherit to. The effects of pain and suffering passed down through the ages, otherwise known as generation or format. So what does this mean for those carrying the weight of history in that gene . Im very impulse a lot and this is the stream. The if you want social media, you likely come across at least one of these countless videos and skips being made about generation, which will uh like this one. The or what is the descendants of the victims of the come errors and come bodya, the holocaust, the genocide against the touch sees in rwanda have in common well study so that many will suffer a higher rates of anxiety, depression and p t c. So if trauma is inherited tendency be the ones to finally break the cycle, hey, its a help on. So this all serene, thin out a Mental Health professional who addresses intergenerational and historical trauma with a native communities. Joining us from circle pines, minnesota dana, out of 5 palestinian american right to an old. The old you exist too much. Joining us from new york and elliot sighing agenda the content right, so it creates a musician also joining us from new york. Welcome to you. Oh, thank you so much for being with us, sir. And can i start with you . Um we had a lot about generation which former these days. But what this is the time i see referred to how common is it . I think its common, its common for really everyone throughout all the time. I think now were just having more of a context for its and more of a conversation about it because things like the internet and just a pollution in general. It allows us to really look at our behavioral patterns. And i really see that when people are starting to communities are starting to move out the survival mode. That theyre able to actually slow down and process some of the things that our ancestors because of being in survival mode through genocide and wars and oppression of just really did not have the space to do. And so generationally and things can be handed down after behaviors through and our learning about ever genetics and also um and, and the native way we, we taught, we call it black memories. So things are handed down. Resilience as well. Not just the difficult things, but i think everybody can talk about how something generationally that happened to them impacts their personal life today as well. Im saying i want to ask you about intergenerational with for, but im conscious the, as a policy in american, youll probably also dealing with very current forms of trauma. Do you recognize that in harris and trauma and you are in your life and, and how does it manifest . Yes, absolutely. I do. Both of my parents grew up under occupation. They both experienced the 1967 bore and a lot of their trauma went on, processed a lot of the fear and the constant uncertainty and living with daily violence, all of that just remain bottled up inside of them and i think trickle down to their children me and my brother when it came time to have children and a lot of that has manifested for me in this constant feeling of ruthlessness and groundlessness. This feeling of, um ex, receiving a lot of their anger that is mostly just based in some fear and hyper vigilance that has been instilled within them. And also this constant sense of, i think, inferior already. And internal has been very already that comes with being part of a community that is being erased to being wiped out, being the legitimize, and the humanized. So all of that is, is how this, their trauma on process to really trickle down into my own lives. And any, i want to bring you in as all, gen z here, jen z. All particularly aware of generation what formats a big, talking point on socials, but it is also one which sometimes gets smokes, doesnt it . If someones getting monks, the d is being too soft. Why do you think that is . Well, i think that as zayna was speaking to these processes of undergoing trauma and under standing one self in a world that is consummately traumatizing leads people to inhibiting certain behaviors certain believes about how to be an adults how to be a grown man that are often times toxic, but are also comforting because they re assure you that the way the world is, is the way its supposed to be. I think often times when you recognize that so much that has happened to you and that things could be otherwise. Its quite unsettling. And its often much easier to adapt to when you believe things to be the way that they are naturally or the way that they are justifiably. And so it, it leads to someones hacking is, im from older generations when they see younger generations try to recognize that and make actual changes to that. So 18. 00, it also turns out that all bodies can carry troll. Maam, he is eclipse by produce certain. Nadine, you also tell us more that you know that you may have experience trauma even before you were born. Thats right. The trauma your parents might have experienced in their lives could actually lead biological traces. And you from as early on as a feeder for instance, think of mothers with piteous need from the holocaust or pregnant women who are the World Trade Center during 911. A study was made on some of their offspring, which showed that when they were born, they have little cortisone levels and their saliva cortisone and a hormone that helps the body returned to normal after from the site. This also found the mother is what suffer childhood trauma might actually be passing down this memory to their unborn baby. They studied the baby and brain circuitry just as they were born and found a much stronger connection in the region of the brain central to processing careful emotions with other regions. To put this all into perspective, all the x, the woman carriers in her lifetime are already formed in her ovaries. Walshs and peterson, her mothers womb, which means we all spend a little time in our grandmothers room as well. This helps us understand how trauma might actually vibrate through generation and just how much more connected we are to our ancestors and their experiences. And we like thing 3, can i ask you to, can i ask you about the connection between historical trauma and phones of pool health, particularly when it comes to your own Community Within native communities . I mean, theres layers when i talk about the effects of trauma and we have to look at the whole picture. So we start with looking at collective trauma. And then we go down to community, family and individual. And what we know about the impacts of historical trauma, which is a mass trauma, a month emanating through generations, often through government policies. And so for our people, we know that for over 500 years colonization has been a process us. If we, if we look at just the basics of, this is the ology of how um, within children alone, when they are taken from their homes in the way that they were through the boarding school era. And unable to speak our language and do all the things that, that happened to our people that the architecture of the brain just inherently changes in their ability to form healthy attachments. Um headquarters, all levels, all of those things are link. If you look at the Adverse Childhood Experiences pyramid, youll look and see how all of the things that we experience mentally and emotionally are directly correlated to our Mental Health as well. And so we look at how the past impacts the present, but we also look at current oppression and systemic racism and all of those things and how they really do impact access to care and our ability to um, access those, i guess you would say the best providers and things through Indian Health service, we really have disparities there that need to be addressed in the Mental Health realm as well. Because we know that it directly impacts our physical well being. Well, there is a growing Awareness Among young people of the need to examine certain behaviors within themselves. Listen to this guy. Intergenerational trauma and brand communities is a real thing because for a long time, i really felt that something was wrong with me. I would often get so angry. I was really impulsive. I was always trying always achieving, trying to be the best. No, we can change our parents. Little we can do is we can focus on our own healing to the make sure that we can break the cycle of generational trauma. So that when we have children, that wont have to grow up the same challenges that we might have gone through. I want to pick up on your reaction to that video and ill ask you a little bit about how you go interested in this idea of generational trauma and whether there was anything that you recognize in your behavior and your friends behavior that resonates with that. Yes, i think understanding my familys behavior, their cultural ideas, things that i really struggled with early on became an ongoing process which im still undertaking, of course of trying to understand them not just through having dialogue with trying to listen to them even when its at times frustrating, right . Because theyll say things that sometimes frustrates you with their world views, but also taking time to study their situation, sprayed. And i think this is something that has also helped me understand the behavior of my friends. In particular, when example is doing side of things, i do something that i recognize my own struggles with more and more as i go on and through treating it both through physically, you know, helping the symptoms of anxiety, but also through working think things out in my own brain, i noticed how much anxiety that i was holding in from the way that my parents were treating me, for instance, not just in a negative way, but the anxieties that they had about money about work. And i noticed that a lot of my friends often times children of immigrants as well, like myself, also had significant anxiety issues that were related to work number related also to being insecure about one self and cultural context. And so anxiety is one of the manifestations that i think is the most fascinating and one of the ones that we share often and discuss often. Now as part of kenzie me, im saying i want to bring you in and ask you your pairing yourself. Is there a sense now maybe there are mistakes of the older generation were making in parenting, but needs to be examined that relate. So that trauma that your baby seeking not to repeat. Oh yeah, 100 percent. I think that, you know, is so much of my own parents experience and that generations experience has been about minimizing the impact of trauma and sort of down saying it in a sense, you know, l modeling it up and which can be really invalidating both to themselves and to those who are the sort of recipients of you know, the way that that got trauma manifests and that sort of outburst, so it couldnt sue. And so for me im, as you mentioned, im a mother to Young Children and i am constantly thinking about how i want to avoid that. How i want to both in still in this idea that their experiences their, the problem is that they may encounter or, or the difficulty is the challenges are valid and that it is okay to talk about that with, with, with us, with their parents or with a Mental Health care provider, and that there is nothing to really be ashamed of in the front on that front. And i, you know, uh, someone who has a degree of trauma thats trickle down to me from my parents, have spent a great deal of time trying to process that trauma so that it doesnt trickle down to my own children and really process a lot of the fear that can sometimes manifest in impulsive necessities. Elliotts word and also sometimes anxiety and anger. So yeah, it is something im very aware of as a mother, especially the mother of 2 young palestinians. Well, when we think about trauma, how far back might that former dates . One generation to 3, what happens when that format spends centuries . I dont think people really understand the ramifications generationally speaking. When you have a people group who are legally not able to share how they fell for centuries at a time. If you have a generation of mothers who are pregnant and while theyre pregnant, they have to run for their lives down to see whipping staff to see emasculation in in the womans body is tense and then that child gets born and then its again then that child gets born in business again and then thats how it gets boring. Doing this again, fast forward to the lynch things in the bomb is you cant even go to church again, women still pregnant. And then you telling the 1st generation to get over and i go, this is emotional cellular anxiety parents down at the, in, in, in now studies are saying we missed that and caring for the woman and child. We focus on nutrients. Only a serene. Weve had that parents on social media talk about the fact that they teach their kids not to, for example, ever lose a receipt or to keep the hands in that pocket so that they uh, you know, visible to those around them. These are just some of the lessons that, that parents have to teach the children to try and keep them safe. But how do you support your children without reinforcing trauma . I think that when we are so, even if people in the systems of power do not see, see the things that we see, we have to empower ourselves to be able to become aware and then understand what do we do . How do we activate that awareness into something externally . And me, being a parent, i think theres a lot of things, but even ill just give really small examples of micro aggressions. But sometimes my children and i experienced around thanksgiving and um, you know, mascots and all these things really perpetuate a lot of stereotypes. And so if were talking about just psychological well being and the impacts that make regressions can have on children and families. And it can really impact identity um, race, racial, trauma, trauma, all of those things. And so one way that i think parents can really talk about it is in a very factual way, like having the information because a lot of children are in that stage of Brain Development where theyre very concrete thinkers. And so if you get too far out there and trying to describe social dynamics that can be a little overwhelming, you can do that. But i think if you talk about it in terms where you can say, heres the history and heres a little bit how it has impacted even our family. And thats what i do with my children a lot. Just last night. My daughter was talking a lot about a lot of anxiety and, and things that shes going through and, and i listened and i think thats the biggest thing you can do is just listen with your whole heart and be present. And i could in fact theres one part of breaking a pattern is that you are not telling them to be quiet. Youre not telling them theyre going to be ok. Um or just move forward. Youre actually giving space and time for that healing to happen just by not your child not feeling silence. And so i think awareness providing information and then almost coming up with a, a way to address those situations when they come up. Because the realities are, we do have to keep our children safe, and at the same time we have to let them know that even with this reality we do not want to internalize that our oppression and internalize those negative stereotypes. Were doing it from a more informed place then then before. Ok, thanks so much dana. Um, can i bring you in . I wanna ask you about whether we wanna see structural changes to the ways in which society deals with generational trauma. We know that its linked to things like poverty, compromise, parenting, chronic stress and unstable moving environments. You know, do we want to see governments taking action when it comes to generational trauma . I mean, absolutely. Of course, you know, especially when, you know, a lot of the government like when i was just, you know, thinking about the fact of Palestinian Young palestinians right now. Seeing how Palestinian Lions are essentially beam to be less valuable than the lives of others in the way that the media has covered the genocide and cause of this constant dehumanization. And i think that given, you know, these reality is the way that these identities and these communities are represented. And, and also the fact that many governments, including, you know, the Us Government has a role in a lot of this. And this violence you know, these representations, i do feel that they have their responsibility to also process or how to handle some of the aftermath of that some of the trauma, the Mental Health issues that arise as a result of these action and these characterizations. And these policies, and so certainly, you know, in an ideal world, yet the government does have a responsibility to think not only about the world to think about the Mental Health and wellbeing of its citizens as well as, and those