i think jorge has enhanced his reputation and profile by doing this. >> in the right way? >> he's not apologizing. and i think it's going to enhance his reputation in that community. i think it will. and i think trump's dealing with it wound up being for his audience very strong again. also, i think he controlled that situation. he wants to contrast to what happened with bernie sanders in the black lives matter thing where he couldn't control that. he made fun of bernie sanders. trump controlled the situations. >> those were protesters. this was a journalist. >> i know. but i bet he would make the comparison. i have the microphone, i don't give it up. >> you have on ramos's side a journalist being taken from the room during a conversation with a potential presidential candidate. and on trump's side, as you made the point earlier, bill, a
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