Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News At Five 20170921 : vimarsan

Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News At Five 20170921

Rescuers work to free children trapped under a collapsed school a 12 Year Old Girl is among those thought to be alive the debris in mexico city. These are the latest pictures as a rescue involving members of the army and hundreds of volunteers continues. Ryanair says more flights may have to be cancelled as the boss admits theres been a Significant Management failure at the airline. And calls for the fa to answer questions over its sacking of mark sampson, as england womens football coach. Our main story at five on the eve of one of the Prime Ministers most important speeches since the general election, theresa may has given the cabinet details of her address in italy, which she hopes will break the deadlock in the brexit talks. Sources have told the bbc, that the Prime Ministers florence speech tomorrow is likely to propose a transitional arrangement between the uk and the eu of up to two years after brexit. It is expected that the uk would be willing to pay into the union during that period in an offer described as being open and generous. And after the marathon two and a half hour Cabinet Meeting, there was a show of unity among her colleagues. As yet there is no official confirmation of any of the speech. Our Political Correspondent iain watson reports. Open and generous as the Prime Minister arrived at downing street to share the contents of her speech with the cabinet, one minister told the bbc that was exactly the kind of offer theresa may was prepared to make to the eu. It sounded like a strong hint she was willing to cough up cash in future to move the Brexit Process forward. But do all her colleagues agree . Is the Prime Minister going to make an open and generous offer to the eu . Good morning. Morning. Is the Prime Minister going to make an open and generous offer . Morning, morning. They were remaining tight lipped. It is perhaps easy to understand why. This picture from the un suggested borisjohnson was doing some back seat driving, pointing out the direction of policy. Hes already set out his stall, ruling out long term financial commitments to the eu. Is boris helpful, mr hunt . His cabinet colleagues didnt exactly give him a ringing endorsement. Borisjohnson might have felt a little shutout from the Brexit Process but after his intervention, he certainly cannot be ignored now. Nonetheless i think its important not to overstate the divisions around the cabinet table, at least in the short term. There seems to be agreement there should be a transition period after we formally leave the European Union in 2019, and that we should continue to make contributions to the eu budget during that time. Its also been suggested to keep what are usually our Eastern European allies on side, the Prime Minister could reassure them they wont have to fork out extra cash to cover any funding gap when we leave. Some close observers of negotiations in brussels say the eu want to hear a specific offer of cash. Any number is a good starting point. We are spending too much time on an issue we shouldnt be spending time on so we need to get on with it and thats important to make progress with other stuff. Here, some of the most ardent leave campaigners say the the minister can make an open and generous offer, but on Citizens Rights rather than hard cash. The Prime Minister said actually we havent reached agreement but actually we will say today eu citizens can stay here whatever, then that would be an open and generous offer which i can support but giving billions of pounds to the eu after we come out, what will the British Public say to that . The chancellor and foreign secretary dont always see eye to eye, both will be flanking the Prime Minister in florence tomorrow and she will be hoping this show of unity can be maintained. In a moment, we can talk to my colleague Christian Fraser who is in florence where the Prime Minister will make that speech tomorrow. First though, lets get the latest on the days developments from our Political Correspondent chris mason. Youve been trying to keep up with all the day s developments. Its very striking, some of what we hearing. My first observation would be, why would a pmqs to go to florence in mid september to give a speech . This evening giving you the mildest p. Whats striking this evening, one, the length of that Cabinet Meeting. They usually last a little over an hour, it gives you a sense of how much there was to talk about. Each minister was given a copy of the draft at the beginning of the meeting, a chance to read it, then theresa may went round the table asking for contributions from her top team. When you look back through the history books in terms of the length of that meeting in context, i managed to find two references to Cabinet Meetings of a similar length. One in 1992, the other in 2003. The first 1992 shortly after the uk had crashed out of the European Exchange rate mechanism, and indeed thousand three when gordon brown was making the to tony blairs cabinet thatjoining the euro was not the best option. You will notice the common theme. On the specifics we have learnt about content, the specifics we have learnt about co nte nt, we the specifics we have learnt about content, we understand the Prime Minister will talk about the desire for a transitional period. That is a topic where the cabinet is united. The idea being that it could be around two years long, we understand, and that the uk will make, and we herded then report, a open and generous offer around money. That has been a Sticking Point with brussels till now. That could amount to around about £10 billion per year. The idea being that would not leave any individual eu member state out of pocket as a result of the uk leaving the European Union, and therefore potentially leaving a gap in its budget if it does not make this kind of offer. But, the expectation from another source is that that kind of deal would be based on continued access to a Single Market along the lines that the uk has now. Also membership of some sort of Customs Union, perhaps not the existing one, which presents the uk from going on striking trade deals around the world, or any eu striking trade deals around the world, orany eu member, but some sort of Customs Union which comes close to the arrangement at the moment. All of that just about the transitional period, then there is the bigger question raut the longer term picture. Thank you for now, chris mason in the rain. Lets go to chris mason in the rain. Lets go to Chris Frazier in the sun in florence. In all seriousness though, actually, why florence . Such a beautiful city. The perfect backdrop for such an important speech. Everywhere you go you spot the history and the links which go all the way back to medieval times, between florence and the uk. Back then in the 13th century, the bankers in the city with the painful treasurers and tax collectors were so treasurers and tax collectors were so rich they lent money to the english kings. There is an u nfortu nate english kings. There is an unfortunate that note in history. The english kings did not want to pay back their loans. Spot the theme . Fast forward to today, and theme . Fast forward to today, and the europeans want to know whether they are going to get their money back. The principalfocus tomorrow. What is theresa may going to commit suing terms of transition period, what sort of money will they get in the short term and will britain commit to the money at o is for things like pensions and thats . Interestingly, Michel Barnier was in italy as well today, hes in rome. He was quoting machiavelli, the italian philosopher coming saying where the willingness is great, the difficulties cannot be great. Urging the brits to get on the net. Interesting from the speech he gave, theresa may saying we can arrange a bespoke deal, we dont want be a brute, the norway route nor the canadian deal. Hes really saying we cant have the benefits of the norwegian model and the constraints of the canadian model, pick a path but at least choose one. Who is actually going to be the audience . With this end that . Who is this aimed at . There will be a lot of focus at the Prime Minister tomorrow, why she has in what she will say. I was speaking earlier in the week to the Vice President of the week to the Vice President of the european commission, who said we are all ears. Realistically, look at the german election and brexit does not even feature. They are not focused on brexit. Its not the be all end all in europe. The germans wa nt to all end all in europe. The germans want to talk about further integration and the future of the 27 countries that are left. France as labour reforms, the dutch are still trying to form a government, the italians want a dog about immigration and the migrants poring through their ports. Even in europe, the bulgarians want closer integration. At the same time they doa integration. At the same time they do a lot of business with britain, and they do want a solution. They wa nt and they do want a solution. They want a smooth transition, its in no 1s interest to get the new deal option. Thank you for now. And well be carrying theresa mays speech tomorrow live on the bbc news channel when it happens, and Christian Fraser will be back for a special edition of beyond 100 days tonight at 7 oclock. We can now speak to the labour mp and chairman of the exiting the eu parliamentary committee, hilary benn. He joins us from leeds this evening. We are getting something of a sphere, it would seem. What do you make of what weve heard so far . |j think the Prime Minister has to do three things tomorrow. First, she has to make a proposal on the money to break the logjam, otherwise the negotiations cannot progress to the really important questions of trade and access for our service industries. Secondly, she has to be absolutely clear that the British Government is going to seek a transitional arrangement, which will involve remaining in a Customs Union and a Single Market which is the position keir starmer set out on behalf the shadow cabinet in august. She needs to adopt the proposal, and thirdly, because europe will be watching the speech very carefully, she has got to try to persuade those we are negotiating with them that the government has a clear plan and crucially, that every Single Member of the cabinet is behind it. We have seenin of the cabinet is behind it. We have seen in the last few days nothing but division and confusion. That is not in the National Interest when we are engaged in such important negotiations. Doesnt the fact that we are getting something of a steer on this suggests that, to your last point, certainly there is a clear plan . It would appear we are absolutely going to hear about a transitional arrangement. That presumably makes you happy . Its been obvious for a long time that it would not be possible in the time thatis would not be possible in the time that is available, negotiations have two went by october of next year, to negotiate a final agreement on trade and market access. It has taken the government 15 months since the referendum, six months since article 50 was triggered, if the Prime Minister does announce this tomorrow it will have taken a long time to get to the point where lots of other people have been saying, for ages, we need to arrive at. On doing this relationship and putting back together a new relationship after we have left is a very, very convex process. You need to have the time to do that. If the government is now going to give up, saying no deal is better than a bad deal, ifor one would welcome that, because clashing with no deal would be a disasterfor the british economy which is why we need transitional arrangements. The british economy which is why we need transitional arrangementsm terms of any sums that might be paid during the transitional period, whatever that it ends up being, you will know that there will be people following the speech tomorrow who think, wait a following the speech tomorrow who think, waita minute, i following the speech tomorrow who think, wait a minute, ivoted following the speech tomorrow who think, wait a minute, i voted for this country to get out of the eu, why on earth are we still paying them . Some people are still going to be very unhappy, arent they, abolition . Some might, but we do have obligations. The crucial question will be guests. If payments are to be made, and that would be sensible during this transition, maybe two years, then the important thing is that those payments come off the total which in the end, the British Government and the 27 countries of the European Union agree is what is owed. Its a way of finding a route through the current logjam which means the negotiations are held up. If you cant move on to phase two, which deals with hugely important questions for business and jobs in this country, our trading relationships, customs and borders, services industry, 80 of the british economy is based on services, 1 millionjobs in financial services, notjust services, 1 millionjobs in financial services, not just in london the hearing needs in other parts of the country that is why we need to avoid a cliff edge, when we leave the institutions at the end of march 20 15. Leave the institutions at the end of march 2015. Then, to move on to the negotiation of a deal, we hope that will govern our relationship going forward. There is a lot still to be done. Its up to the Prime Minister tomorrow to make it clear that if the government does have a plan, it is exacting labours proposals that we need these transitional arrangements and makes an offer that allows the European Council do say we can move on. Currently we are stuck. If we are stuck then we cannot move forward. By the end of tomorrow, we now mop cannot move forward. By the end of tomorrow, we now mop we might not be. They have just heard enough to give them a reassurance we might need. That time to start planning, then they have a clearer sense of what the uk is aiming for . Businesses would undoubtedly welcome a clear statement that there will be transitional arrangements. The businesses i talk to them say, thats fine, but i need to know absolutely for sure that they will happen. Its one thing for the uk government to propose it, its another for the 27 to agree. Secondly, they say, we need to know exactly what those arrangements are going to consist of. We know there are businesses who are currently planning against the worst possible outcome, no deal, and we do not want businesses to take decisions that may be bad for the british economy, because they do not know whats going to happen after march 2019. Its a first step to say we will seek transitional arrangements, what is then essential is that it is made clear to british businesses as quickly as possible but those arrangements are going to be put in place for sure. And what they will consist of. British business is saying we need that certainty very clearly, which is why you have to break the logjam, because if you dont do that, you cant get that assurance that our companies and services are looking for. Thank you very much for now. Chair of the exiting the eu parliamentary committee. After half past, i will be talking to one prominent businessmen and asking what he wants to hear from theresa may tomorrow. That is coming up in the next little while. This is bbc news at 5 the headlines theresa may is likely to propose a transitional arrangement between the uk and the eu of up to two years after brexit, the bbc understands. Rescuers work to free children trapped under a collapsed School Following the earthquake in mexico city. Ryanair says more flights may have to be cancelled as the boss admits theres been a Significant Management failure at the airline. In sport, was he ever suitable . Questions now raised over what was known about Mark Sampsons background before he was appointed. Head coach of the england womens football team. Chelsea have agreed to sell diego costa to his former club, atletico madrid, if personal terms and a medical confirmed. He will be free to move come the new year. Brian cookson has lost the election to stay on as world cycling s governing body president to the frenchman, davidoff party. More at half past. Rescuers in mexico city are trying to reach a number of people they believe are still alive under the rubble of a school which collapsed during tuesdays earthquake. A senior official has told the bbc a young girl is sheltering under a table in the debris and that crews have managed to pass food and water to her. The government has appealed to other countries to provide specialist teams and equipment to help search for survivors. Rajini Vaidya Nathan reports from mexico city. After the horror of the earthquake, there is hope. These Young Children were pulled alive from the rubble of a Primary School in the south of mexico city. Rescuers searched o

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