Transcripts For BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire 20240714 : vimar

Transcripts For BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire 20240714

Coming up at 6 00, breakfast with rogerjohnson and rachel burden. But first on bbc news, a look back at the weeks highlights of the Victoria Derbyshire programme. Hello, welcome. Over the next half hour we will show you some of the highlights from our programme of the last week. We start with a story from one of our viewers who the programme. Vicki, not her real name, is from birmingham and was adopted. When she turned 18 she requested her records from social services and hope of finding her biological parents. That is when she found out she was conceived by rape, and started her fight to have her father prosecuted. In our exclusive film, her words are spoken for her to protect her identity, you may not want your children to watch, it last for around eight minutes. My name is vicky. I was conceived by rape. I was born in birmingham in the 70s and adopted when i was seven months old. Growing up, i always wanted to find my birth mother. It is almost like she had been a ghost in my life, knowing there was somebody who had given birth to you, who was alive, walking around, when i hit my 18th birthday i was determined to get the files. That is when i was told by a social worker, and i saw in black and white in my files that my conception was a result of rape. My birth mother had been 13, a schoolgirl. My birth father, a family friend who was 35. The record said that she had gone to babysit at his house and he raped her. To find out that you have been born to a horrendous act of violence against a child, and that people knew, it says in seven different places in the files that it was rape. The fact that she was 13 means it was statutory rape, because he had sex with a minor. It states his name and address, that social services and police and Health Workers knew, but nothing was done about it. My birth mother was from a black working class family, and i cannot help thinking attitudes at the time had something to do with that. It made me feel angry. Devastated for my birth mother, for me. And i remember thinking, well my birth mother ever want to meet me . I trace my birth mother with support from my adopted father and i found her. Seeing the photo of her for the first time was incredible. It was like looking into a mirror. I remember as meeting when i was about 20. I walked off the train as she was there. I can only imagine how she must have felt seeing me there is an adult. She said that she had always hoped i would find her. But it wasnt some soft focus moments are loving embrace. It was just. Really surreal. It wasnt until decades later when thejimmy savile case and other historic cases were in the news that i really thought about trying to do anything about it. I had always thought it was so wrong that my birth father was never prosecuted. It was then that i thought, i have got dna evidence. Because i am dna evidence. I am a walking crime scene. And its all written in the files, surely people are going to take me seriously. I wanted him to be held accountable. I wanted justice for my mum, i wanted justice for me. The ramifications of what he chose to do have shaped my entire life. Sorry. Youd think i would get sick of crying. And he has been able to get away with it and just live his life. My birth mother made it very clear that she had reported that it was rape at the time. And people hadnt listened to her then, so why would they listen now . More than a0 years have passed, and she. Well, she doesnt want to go through it all again. But she supports me pursuing it. I have contacted so many people, police, social workers, solicitors, mps. They just say, you are not the victim. Because of that crime, i am alive. My whole life has been dictated by it. But no one will seem years the victim. I am living, breathing proof of a child rapist, and nobody is interested start how is that 0k . My birth fathers name is on my files. So i traced him. I was getting nowhere with the police. Eventually i decided to go to his address. I just remember the nerves, my heart was pounding, i was sweating. This man, like a ghost, he has done the most heinous act, and this is who im going to meet. He came to the front door and i just said, hello, i believe im your daughter. He said, oh, come in. And that was it. It was the most surreal a0 minutes of my life. I remember saying to him, well, did you have sex with her . If you didnt, we dont need to be having this conversation. And hejust said, thatjust because you have sex with someone, doesnt mean you make a baby, and so to me, that was. He just confirmed it. Why would you not deny it . I noticed theres a photo on the wall of a girl, maybe about 12 years old. I just sort of said, who is that . It was his great granddaughter or someone, and that made me feel absolutely sick. I mean, who is protecting her . Ifound out that there have been victimless prosecutions for rape, when people dont feel able to report it, because of the nature of the crime. But there is evidence. I want the police to look at the files, id at least consider a victimless prosecution in my case. And i want the definition of victim to be reviewed. This has nearly beating me down. Being adopted comes with so many difficulties. And the trauma of this has affected every part of my life. But i will persevere, because i know this is so wrong, and i want justice. So i am not going to go away. If you have been affected by the issues in that film, there is a range of organisations to offer you support. You can find them on the bbcs action line website. More than 253,000 people have signed a petition, qualified legal aid to be provided to all families at inquests into terror attacks. Calling for legal aid. It was set up a month ago by the boyfriend of nurse kirsty bowden, known as the angel of London Bridge. She was stabbed to death while trying to save the life of another victim of thejune 2017 attack. Nowjames holder is fighting for all families involved in similar attacks, including those of the Manchester Arena, to be given legal aid for the inquest. Anyone who met her, whetherfor a brief moment or longer, with always remember her. She loved life, she loved people, obviously she was a nurse, so she loved helping people, both professionally and then her personal life. She just had such a zest for life. Now that that has gone from myself and michael tupacs familys lives, it is incredibly difficult to carry on with life without that. What was kirsty doing when she herself was attacked . She was trying to help the waiter of the bistro, who had been stabbed in the neck and was obviously bleeding from that wound. She came to his aid as she put a cloth on his neck to try and stem the bleeding. It was at that moment that the three terrorists came across her, despite the fact that they came across her she still did not run, she stayed with alexander and they swarmed her and stabbed to death. I dont know how you cope with that. You dont, to be honest, you take it one day at a time. I just try to get on as best you can. You have just gone through the inquest, and that was really difficult for you. Just expire to our audience. The inquest was almost torture. That sounds like an extreme word, but it was. We had to wait two years for the inquest to start, in which time we were obviously grieving for kirsty ad be could continue that process i told the inquest started. The inquest itself went on for two months. In which you have to relive the worst night of your life in extreme detail any public forum repeatedly. So you have to look at cctv footage, photos of the crime scene, coroners reports, witness testimony of kirstys last moments. It is literally torture for anyone that has been through that. At the end of that process, the government has then turned around to me and all the other families on London Bridge and said, you should pay for this, all the legal phase that you have racked up, you are the ones who will pay for it. What the ministry ofjustice say is that they appreciate how on the face of it not providing grieving families with legal aid for an inquest, because it is not in the public interest, may seem strange, but they say an inquest is designed to be about fact finding and establishing the truth rather than being adversarial and as a consequence they say legal representation is rarely necessary. It is a pathetic excuse. I can see that working in inquest of a smaller size, fair enough. But for an inquest the size of one like London Bridge, which goes on for two months in which for example the home secretary himself had three qcs representing himself and his office, there were eight separate public officers, all with their own legal team, who were there for the whole process. As we know at least one of the killers families got legal aid, so everyone has got lawyers. It is a lawyer first. Getting what was spent on legal fees from yourself . We dont know exactly about hundreds of thousands, because it is notjust the inquest, it is leading up to it as well, the legal team have to prepare themselves. They went through over 10,000 documents over a weeks worth of cctv, just to put together the starting point of the inquest. How would you possibly do that on your own without help from a legal professional . It is impossible. The families of the Manchester Arena attacks are about to go through this. What is your message to the newjustice secretary . What do you want to say to him . I want to meet him face to face. He can have whoever he wants with him in the room, but i want him to explain to me why he fixed it is not necessary to give state funded aid to victims like ours. Face to face, i am going to spain to him why i think he is wrong. So we can get theirs changed before the manchester inquest starts. What happens when an mp is unable to do theirjob . What is the impact on their constituents . We have been to Sheffield Hallam where the local mp has said he is unfit to continue. That was after his chief of staff apparently use the mps official twitter account to denounce his boss as selfish and degenerate and to accuse him of letting his constituents down. What has really been going on, and what do his constituents make of it . 0ur reporter has been to sheffield to find out. Just a warning, there is Strong Language just after three and a half minutes. 21,000. Cheering jared 0mara took the seat from nick clegg, one of the biggest shocks of the 2017 general election, an unknown 35 year old bar owner who had campaigned for disability rights had ousted the deputy Prime Minister, riding a wave of ill feeling over tuition fees. But that was about as good as it got for the constituencys first ever labourmp. Last month, for the second time, he said he was cutting back on his mp duties. He also told journalists he had made three attempts to take his own life. Are this is a story about the impact on his constituents. There must be a process to make sure that every constituent has an elected Member Parliament that is actually effective in doing thejob. 0n the labour party. I cant imagine people will be too quick to vote for labour again in this constituency. At whetherjared 0mara has been used by those who were supposed to be helping. People have joked to me that i was basically the mp for Sheffield Hallam. Because he was so not here basically. Jared 0mara was born with cerebral palsy, at last year he told the media he had been diagnosed with autism. He has spoken openly about the difficulties of being a disabled mp and his Mental Health problems. When allegedly sexist, homophobic and misogynistic comments he had made before he entered politics surfaced, he was first suspended and then quit the party. But he didnt say that he would step down as an mp until his friend and recently appointed chief of staff used 0maras twitter account to publicly destroy the mps character. Gareth arnold took to twitter to resign and denounce his boss as a degenerate who had let his constituents down. It was, it seems, the final straw. This is arnold. He initially agreed to be interviewed and invited us to film 13 moving offices. When we arrived, he changed his mind, saying he didnt want to be part of the story. But the following day he did give and interview the bbc podcast the next episode. I am just a man with a job description. I am running this office. Nobody has vetted you. I dont have a security clearance. A self described trawl and a little provocative, arnold says he has an old drinking partner of jared 0mara from their days on sheffields late night bar scene. He was brought in eight weeks ago to sort out the mps communications. Referring to his brutal twitter take down of jared 0mara, arnold told me he publicly burned his boss to put the mp out of his misery. He said it was like seeing a lamb by the side of the road with a half broken neck, stamping on the ground as if to kill the animal. He joked, it is what you have to do. And strangely for an mps medications officer, he tried to direct me to the most vocal critics of his friend and boss. And he told me it is him, notjared 0mara, who has been blocking constituents from contacting the mp on twitter. Something those constituents have only complained about happening since arnold took control of the twitter account. If you are going to be eight white, he told me, you are going get blocked. If you are going to be a twit. Constituent jodi garr set up Facebook Group for people worried about their lack of political representation. She says people were blocked for asking a legitimate questions of their mp. It was one of the ways of contacting him, so by blocking them they didnt have that. It was just shutting down constituents who were trying to reach out. On a lot of his tweets, it is difficult to know which came from him and which came from his communications officer, seemed almost to ridicule us. He blocked quite a lot of our members in the first instance, some people who were calling him up on his bad behaviour. He just replied with various means and gifts. If you look through his twitter feed, there is this thing about having a statement and the one before says, if i had a dog, i would name him stephen. Justin buxton is a Labour Party Member who says he questioned 0mara in person about his unorthodox use of twitter and that the mp told him he had nothing to do with it. It was all arnold. This yearjared has not done any tweets, it has all been Gareth Arnold, his so called chief of staff who has been taking over the twitter account. But what are the motivations of Gareth Arnold . When i met him, he showed me what he said was his tory Party Membership card. He said he had been a member for five years, id be seen a tweet from him suggesting Jeremy Corbyn should have been murdered instead of the labour mpjo cox. It is not clear exactly what role Gareth Arnold played all is continuing to play in jared 0maras offers. Labour sources claim arnold is manipulating jared for his own anc, an allegation arnold says is laughable. Jared 0mara says he intends to resign after the summer, saying he is in no fit state to continue as an mp. He said he will be seeking professional help for his Mental Health and his personal issues, but in the meantime he will carry on collecting his wages add Sheffield Hallams constituents will be without an mp. Jared 0maras office told us he has five Staff Members at that case work is ongoing. They told us there is no backlog, although the two constituents we spoke to for this film are still waiting for a response. One of them was anne marie, who has multiple debilitating conditions and wanted 0maras offers to do more on disabled parking and raising disability issues in the commons. I was brought up by, any labourfamily, i supported labour for a long time, and i did actually vote forjarryd, because i thought was the potential. I have been really let down. He could well be in post, but he is not, he may well be on the bankroll until the end of september, possibly mid 0ctober. Unfortunately there is not much we can do. One of the men attempting to restore faith in politics after the expenses scandal was ironically nick clegg, who 0mara beat in 2017. He introduced a law allowing constituents to sack their mp, but their powers were limited. An mp has to be convicted or suspended from the house they can be recalled. We as constituents had nothing we could do. We looked every could recall them at their zero legislation for that. We discussed whether the office of the speaker of the house, and they said there is not much they can do, he is responsible to his party, he doesnt have a party. We have contacted parliamentary standards, they do not deal with individuals. We tried a petition, you cannot make a petition about someone losing theirjob. All these things that are supposed to be there to support ours, we basically got told that we need to talk to our mp, but we cant because we dont have one. 0ne local councillor described 0mara as a paper candidate. He was never expected to win, id long static labour members likejustin are living with the consequences. I cannot help but think it is a squatted opportunity. I cant imagine that people are going to be too quick to vote for labour again in this constituency. Who do you blame . I think the labour party should have taken more care about the selection of jared as a candidate. Labour told us they follow the correct procedures in selecting 0mara, and continue to support him. It is understood the party rejects the idea that background social media checks would have revealed concerns about him. Do you feel like because the truants have any form of recourse . It is fairly touch and go whether he would resign in the ed. He has clung on for two years. It has early been capitulated by the behaviour of his chief of staff. It has only booked. That chief of staff is of course. Gareth arnold. Serious questions remain about the offers he is now running, and in whose interests he is working. Earlier this year, 0maras well thought of and experience staff left where sack, leaving arnold and his young team running the constituency office, like his boss, arnold says he is still getting paid while he works out his notice period, leaving a list of questions, his constituents and taxpayers will want answering. Thats it for this week. You can always set as your ideas at victoria bbc. Co. Uk. We are back on monday morning at ten oclock on bbc two and bbc news channel. Goodbye. Hello. The weather has thrown a lot of things at us so far this weekend. Torrential rain, thunderstorms, and of course those very strong and in places damaging winds, really whipping up the sea at lyme regis in dorset. While it is a

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