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A planned weekend protest. Australian Authorities Say the outlook for the Great Barrier reef looks very poor, with Climate Change having a major impact on coral and marine life. Good morning, welcome to bbc newsroom live. A judge sitting in scotlands highest civil court has rejected a request for an injunction, preventing the suspension of parliament, but says its in the Public Interest for a full hearing, as soon as possible. A group of 75 parliamentarians were seeking an interim interdict similar to an injunction at the court of session ahead of a full hearing. Lord doherty said he believed the full hearing should be moved forward to next tuesday or wednesday. Lorna gordon is in edinburgh for us. Explain the significance of this . Explain the significance of thi57m effect, it means we are in a Holding Pattern at the moment. The judge declined to grant that emergency injunction. He said he wants to hear the full argument. In the end they settled on a date, that full hearing which was originally scheduled for next friday, because of course the moves to bring this case to court have been in the offing for some time. The petitioners started this court action back injuly. Anticipating, they said, that the government would seek to prorogue parliament. Original discussions we re parliament. Original discussions were that it was set for friday, the discussions were that it would get moved forward to tuesday or wednesday. At the end of the hearing, decision was made that it would in fact take place next tuesday. Thejudge, said it was in the interest of justice tuesday. Thejudge, said it was in the interest ofjustice and the Public Interest that it proceeds sooner Public Interest that it proceeds sooner rather than later. He said in declining the interim interdict he was not satisfied that there was a cogent need for one and that he would not decide whether the petitioners have a case until the full arguments are set out. So we now know that this is a Holding Pattern for now, but the full hearing will be next tuesday and the speediness of the process thus far would suggest that he would make a decision very, very quickly thereafter. What reaction has there been, to putting it in a Holding Pattern . We had the lead petitioner came outside court, she is one of more than 70 parliamentarians and peers who have joined this action at the court of session. She talked of the court of session. She talked of the timetable, she talked also of the timetable, she talked also of the expenses. I think we get bit of her now. The judge has declined to grant interim orders, that is like an emergency order. But he hasnt made any ruling on the merits of our argument that prorogation should be stopped. He wants to hear further and full arguments on Tuesday Morning, here at the court of session, before making a decision. And so i see that as a victory for us. He has said there is no urgency over the weekend because, of course, the order that came from balmoral on wednesday says that parliament cannot be prorogued before the 9th of september, which is a week on monday. He is going to hear the full arguments, as to whether or not that prorogation should proceed, on tuesday of next week, and he has found the expenses of this hearing to be expenses on the cause, which means that the ultimate victor will get the expenses of it. Interestingly, she also pointed out that she has given the caught a sworn affidavit talking about how she believes there is not enough time for parliament to properly scrutinise what is going on ahead of exit the court. We had the lawyer for the petitioners in court invite the Prime Minister to hand in a sworn affidavit as well which was acknowledged by the government lawyer, although not necessarily accepted. Of course it is not up to the petitioners whether or not the Prime Minister submits a sworn affidavit, what we dont know at this point is whether, if you chooses not to, whether they might request that thejudge chooses not to, whether they might request that the judge compels him to. Of course, that will ultimately be in thejudges to. Of course, that will ultimately be in the judges gift, to. Of course, that will ultimately be in thejudges gift, his decision whether a not he does it. But yesterday in court, it was said that this case was unprecedented and i certainly think what happened here in that short 20 minute or so hearing just a short while ago, you really do get the feeling that we are really do get the feeling that we a re really really do get the feeling that we are really in uncharted territory when it comes to the courts. Thank you very much. Sirjohn major has said hes joined the campaigner, gina miller, who is mounting a legal challenge of her own against the governments decision to prorogue parliament. The former Prime Minister said he wasjoining the challenge to avoid duplication of efforts in the court. Gina miller has tweeted to say that the challenge will be heard on thursday of next week. A similar legal challenge is also getting underway in Northern Ireland. The government says it is intensifying negotiations with the eu to try to find a new Brexit Agreement, as the uk prepares to leave in two months time, with or without a deal. Government negotiators will meet their counterparts in brussels twice a week, in september, in an effort to break the deadlock ahead of a crucial summit in october. It follows a backlash against the Prime Ministers decision to suspend parliament next month. More protests are being planned across the country this weekend. Meanwhile, cross Party Efforts to block a no deal brexit are also intensifying, before Parliament Resumes on tuesday. Lets get more on all of this, with our Political Correspondent ian watson, whos in westminster for us. Onjohn on john major joining with onjohn majorjoining with gina mellors legal challenge, it is quite something when you have a former conservative Prime Minister pitted against the current one . Gina miller. They made it clear some weeks ago that if there was a suspension of parliament, he would ta ke suspension of parliament, he would take this matter to the courts. As there is already a Court Challenge under way by the businesswomen gina miller, he has decided tojoin that action. The details are less surprisingly the fact that the former conservative Prime Minister is effectively taking the current conservative Prime Minister to court, challenging the way he is handling the Brexit Process and effectively accusing him of undermining parliamentary sovereignty. We have also had a very prominent conservatives planning to join may speak to try to prevent a no deal brexit no matter what the court say. So they are trying to rest control on tuesday with an emergency debate and then take further action during the course of the week to try to legislate for no deal. Amongst them, a former conservative cabinet minister who said today that nothing that these rebels were doing would stop Boris Johnson from pursuing a deal but if you didnt get it, then that is very little that borisjohnson can do if they are successful, to prevent an extension to the brexit deadline. I hope that parliament will take a series of actions in a proper orderly way, that by the end of the week mean that borisjohnson knows, that as Prime Minister, he has the backing of many, many of us to get a deal, but that if he doesnt get a deal he will have to seek an extension. Theres an irony here, i should just mention, which is if he does get a deal, as a matter of fact, he will need an extension any way, because its impossible to take from the late october stage a deal which is sort of written down but not solemnised and implemented in just a very few days. Should we be cautious about the fact that the meetings between eu and uk officials will be stepped up to twice a week . The German Foreign minister is saying in helsinki where Foreign Ministers are meeting that we cannot imagine not reopening our agreement, we imagine it will happen on the 31st of october. The British Government has needed clear that if there is no agreement on the irish border, and audio brexit will happen. There seems to be a bit of the chink in the armour a no deal brexit. Borisjohnson has been demanding, these meetings are being stepped up for two reasons. Domestic consumption, we talked about conservative rebels. If it looks as though Boris Johnson is conservative rebels. If it looks as though borisjohnson is pursuing a deal, some of them who have doubts about no deal may notjoin oliver letwi n about no deal may notjoin Oliver Letwin in voting against the government next week. They merely prepared to give borisjohnson more time. The second thing to say about these meetings being stepped up is this. Again, whether a German Foreign foreign minister or otherwise, they are not reopening negotiations as such. The onus is on britain to come forward with new proposals which they will then examine. They want to see if there is going to be workable alternatives which nonetheless stay within their para meters which nonetheless stay within their parameters of avoiding a hardboard with ireland to the controversial backstop. They will be making clear that they will not sit around the table and try and solve this problem together. They are going to say that it is the uk who wanted to leave, britain wanted to leave the European Union and it is therefore down to the British Government to come to us with any solutions that they think are workable and for us to consider. Given that is the case i think the view here at westminster is lots of people put different numbers on it, borisjohnson said i million to one at one point and then 50 50 but certainly the view is that money is still on a no deal brexit unless the opposition and some conservative rebels are successful in wresting control of the legislative programme and demanding an extension to brexit and demanding an extension to brexit and even then of course it is not guaranteed that borisjohnson would either go along with it or that he wouldnt, himself, call a either go along with it or that he wouldnt, himself, calla general election to avoid it. Thank you very much. The risk of Breast Cancer from menopausal hormone therapy is more than double what women are curretly being told. Mht replaces oestragen and progesterone two hormones that decrease in women during the menopause to alleviate some of the symptoms. Now, researchers at the university of oxford say the risks last up to ten years after therapy ends, and means one in every fifty women on the combined hormone treatment will develop Breast Cancer. There are other types of hormone replacement therapy and each of those showed an increased risk too. Lets speak now to professor sir richard peto, professor of medical statistics and epidemiology at the university of oxford who has been doing this research for twenty years. Thank you for taking the time to talk to us today. There is something quite confusing here for women who are on hrt, isnt there . On the one hand, we are being told according to this research about a new risk, on the other and, some people who specialise in dealing with the menopause say that there is nothing new in this research. So give us your take on all of it. The statement there is nothing new was put out by the Royal College of obstetricians and gynaecologists and it is not true. What is true is that this confirms that the risk while you are taking hormone replacement therapy is roughly as estimated before. And that some risks persist actually for more than ten years. For at least up to 15 years and so when you add the risk during and the risk after, that roughly doubles the total risks that there are. How does one describe moderate sized risks . One in 50 women, if they did five yea rs of one in 50 women, if they did five years of standard hormone replacing therapy, would get Breast Cancer as a result of it. Is that something which one should put as a stare slowly . You dont want an unduly concerned scare story but you dont wa nt concerned scare story but you dont want undue reassurance and i dont know how to describe one in 50 risk andi know how to describe one in 50 risk and i think the problem is that game ecologists dont either. Bc the women with menopausal symptoms, they dont see the women with Breast Cancer later on as a general rule. Gynaecologists. These cancers are real, it is not the biggest factor in the world, the biggest is smoking. But more than 80 of women dont smoke and for those who dont smoke in this country, this is among them moderate risks that are there and real. Given what he said, it is really important to put this in context. What is the risk of being on hrt in terms of a womans potential for getting Breast Cancer compared to other factors that may lead to Breast Cancer, perhaps you could put that into context . lead to Breast Cancer, perhaps you could put that into context . If you look at lean versus obese, obese women have a greater chance of developing Breast Cancer which would be roughly culpable, you would be talking about an increase of one third if you are obese as against lee. Here is the same thing. Us into changing the risk of getting Breast Cancer in your 50s and 60s from 6 to 8 which is a 2 increased. Which is one in 50 women so in comparison, with obesity as a cause of Breast Cancer, it is comparable. And i was very happy that the statement from the Royal College of obstetricians and gynaecologists and others have said it is not, people, because it is. And if you see alcohol can increase your risk of Breast Cancer, yes, but for five years of hormone therapy treatment you get a risk thatis therapy treatment you get a risk that is about the same size as drinking half a bottle of wine a day for several decades. I dont want to, i dont know how to do this. I dont want to exaggerate, but i dont want to exaggerate, but i dont want to under state. He wouldnt want someone who has Breast Cancer who has been on hormone therapy saying why didnt you tell me. But i dont see that one should have a huge panic. The biggest thing in this country is smoking. Let me interrupt you if i may. With various parts of the medical establishment contradicting one another, what message would you have for women who are on hrt right now who are worried, concerned, who are trying to decide how worried they should be, should they chat to their gp . That she would be sensible because menopausal symptoms can be horrible and menopausal treatment can relieve it. If one in 50 were to do it for five years, one in 50 would end up with Breast Cancer in five years. I ama with Breast Cancer in five years. I am a man and wont have menopausal symptoms. I have had cancer and it is not fun but it is gone now. We really appreciate you coming along to talk to us today and giving us yourfrank to talk to us today and giving us your frank views on this latest study. The headlines on bbc news. A scottish judge rejects a temporary halt to borisjohnsons plan to suspend the Uk Parliament but says a full hearing should be held early next week. Former Prime Minister sirjohn major says hes joining campaigner gina millers legal bid to stop the suspension gina millers legal bid to stop the suspension. The increased risk of Breast Cancer from menopausal hormone therapy lasts more than a decade after treatment stops, and in sport, formula i has returned after its summer break but it has been a tough morning in belgium for Lewis Hamilton who has struggled with power issues but he has just managed to set his first time in first practice. Uefa name their player of the year, a reward for a remarkable season for country and club. And dan evans faces Roger Federer at the us open later after an impressive win over his opponent. I will be back after half past. Police in hong kong have warned that anyone who takes part in illegal demonstrations on saturday is likely to face arrest. The authorities have banned a planned protest and arrested a number of pro democracy activists. There have been more than three months of protests, some of which have resulted in violent clashes. Two prominent activists, joshua wong and agnes chow, have appeared in court. They were arrested earlier on friday on suspicion of inciting others to participate in an unauthorised gathering and of taking part in an unauthorised assembly. Joshua wong and agnes chow where arrested, the authorities have banned a planned protest, however many of the protesters are saying that they will still be taking to the streets. I am not sure if we can hear anything from joshua one right now. Let us try . I am told it is not in english at the moment but we will bring you more details of that as soon as we can. There have been more than three months of protest which you may know. Some of which have resulted in violent clashes between these pro

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