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Another referendum, then campaign against their own deal in that referendum. Perhaps the next policy will be to have a referendum on whether to have a referendum. Mr speaker, the leader of the opposition cannot bleed, he cannot make a decision. We cannot work out whether he is for brexit or against it, for a referendum or against it. The only options he likes our deva and delay. Did. The only options he likes our deva and delay. Did. Order order order stop i am immensely grateful to the Prime Minister for his complaints. A point of order for mr davies. Order idont complaints. A point of order for mr davies. Order i dont require any assistance from you. You wouldnt have the foggiest idea went to start. Im seeking to establish whether it is a point of order. When i have heard today will no. Mr lender when i have had a table iio. Lender when i have had a table no. People watching todays proceedings will say it is the second time the house has tried to move that motion. Given the Prime Minister is displaying a contradiction by saying he wants to ask the question of the house again but not allow the beep of scotland and independence referendum. Inaudible. It is hypocrisy on the part of the Prime Minister. An ingenious effort. Let me just say this motion would not be on the paper unless it was orderly. And they are happy to conduct a seminar outside the chamber at conduct a seminar outside the chamberata conduct a seminar outside the chamber at a later date. It is, at this time, given the context, orderly. I am this time, given the context, orderly. Lam happy feet this time, given the context, orderly. I am happy feet toppie does not meet the needs of the case. The Prime Minister. As i say again to everybody on the opposition benches, if you really want to delay brexit beyond october 31, which is what you seem to want to do, then vote for an election and let the people decide, let the people decide if they want to delay or not. And if you refuse to do that tonight then i will go to brussels, i will go to brussels, our government will go to brussels, our government will go to brussels on october 17 and negotiate oui brussels on october 17 and negotiate our departure on the 31st of october, hopefully with a deal, mr speaker, but without one if necessary. I will not ask for another delay. I will not asked to delay. Order. Apologise to interrupt the premise. They will take these points of order but they hope they are genuine. Order. Order come on. Order i hope they are genuine and the Prime Minister will then proceed. Mr Prime Minister, im keen to have your guidance given that we are supposed to be debating whether or not to have an early general election whether the Prime Minister in the context is want to share with the house whether or not he is willing to obey the law of the land. That is a political observation, not procedural adjudication by the chair. I have a point of order on behalf of the Liaison Committee, mr speaker. The Prime Minister gave an undertaking that he would appear before the Liaison Committee this wednesday at 3 30. The Liaison Committee have met today and we have gone to the Prime Minister to ask if he will still appear. Order order. I recognise the sincerity and the strength of conviction, if she wishes to conduct to the debate in an orderly way, on her feet, in a speech, because she catches my eye,. Prime minister. Prime minister, repeat mr speaker, repeat my point. Point of order. Graeme davis. The Prime Minister has informed the house that on the 31st of october he will go to brussels and ensure we leave with or without and ensure we leave with or without a deal. In contravention of a motion we have just passed to obey the law and complains of a law that hasjust passed. Is that out of order . M would be best if the honourable gentleman did not keep pointing at me. I know he feels strongly but it isnt a point of order. Order they would say, in terms of the saintliness of these proceedings, come on, let us have fair play. The premise is entitled to make a speech and be heard seemly in us. The Prime Minister. Thank you, mr speaker. Thank you for allowing me to appoint my salient point that i will not ask for another delay. The people of this country. Have had enough of the. The people of this country, mr speaker, have had enough of the delectable dispute. Order order this is profoundly disorderly. Members mustnt be shouted down in the chamber. They mustnt be shouted down in the chamber. There are standards to be upheld and they must be. The Prime Minister. Mr speaker, from the turbulent reaction of the benches opposite it is obvious they want another delay. The public have had enough of the delectable disputations of this house. And they must warn mumbles that their behaviour in watching the will of the people is undermining respect for this house in the country. Mr speaker, if honourable members want another delay the only proper way to do it is to ask permission from our masters, the people. From our masters, the people. From our masters, the people. From our masters, the voters. Anai commenced this motion to the house. Order the question is that there shall be an early parliamentary general election. A call the leader of the opposition, mrJeremy Corbyn. Election. A call the leader of the opposition, mrJeremy Corbyn. Thank you, mr speaker. The only point of any importance that the Prime Minister hasjust any importance that the Prime Minister has just included in any importance that the Prime Minister hasjust included in his speech is his clear indication that he does not intend to follow the law that has just been passed that requires him to ask for an extension in certain circumstances. He also, mr speaker, gave no answer to the two decisions this house is already made today concerning the publication of yellowhammer documents and his own behaviour as Prime Minister in respect of laws agreed. The Prime Ministerfailing we seem to grasp that opposition benches have been cleared. Laughter. The house, mr speaker, has expressed its well until the act has been complied with and no deal has been taken off the table, no deal taken off the table, we will not vote to support the dissolution of this house and they general election. Now, i want and election, mr speaker, as the Prime Minister pointed out, and the conservative party has very generallyjust macro generously broadcast footage of me and my friend saying we want an election. I dont retreat from that at all friends. We are eager for an election. But as keen as we are, we are not prepared to risk inflicting the disaster of no deal on us, inflicting the disaster of no deal on us, oui inflicting the disaster of no deal on us, our communities, ourjobs, oui on us, our communities, ourjobs, our services, or, on us, our communities, ourjobs, ourservices, or, indeed, our rights. Mr speaker, no dealwould not be a clean break. It would not meanjust getting not be a clean break. It would not mean just getting on with it. Not be a clean break. It would not meanjust getting on with it. It would start a whole new period of confusion and delay. But this time, this time, mr speaker, set against a backdrop of rising unemployment, further deindustrialisation, and of deepening poverty all across this country. Order order. Order. They said a moment ago that the Prime Minister should not be shouted down. Let me say to everyone who is shutting their heads off, it will be readily obvious to people observing receding is that this is exactly what they are trying to do. Including some extraordinarily stupid and noisy yelling from people secreting themselves behind the chairand secreting themselves behind the chair and thinking they are being clever. Its very low grade, its very downmarket, is very substantive, its very boring, its very predictable, and if the web is operated any sort of discipline they would tell those people to try to get a life just macro whips. The leader of the opposition. Mr speaker, lee point i was making was it will be in a backdrop of unemployment increasing, deindustrialisation, deepening poverty within our society, not very surprising that our government was so surprising that our government was so keen to hide the yellowhammer documents, their own documents, which would demonstrate this to be the case. We have no faith that the government is seeking a deal in good faith. Indeed, the former work and pensions secretary said in her Resignation Letter i no longer believe leaving with a deal is the governments main objective. Eu leaders have received no proposals. Government ministers have offered no explanation of the deal they are seeking. Even if there is such a deal they are seeking. Let alone any workout proposals presented to parliament for scrutiny. No wonder they are so keen to avoid any scrutiny of what they are doing. The only conclusion, mr speaker, the only conclusion, mr speaker, the only conclusion, mr speaker, the only conclusion that can be reached, and it is backed up by all the lea ked and it is backed up by all the leaked reports in the press, is that the governments pretensions to negotiate a nothing but a sham. The Prime Minister knows, he knows full well there is no mandate for no deal. No majority support for it in the country, and no majority support for it in this house. But. But. But he refuses to rule it out and refuses, refuses to set out any proposals to avoid it. Mr speaker, this is a very serious issue. The Prime Minister is running away from scrutiny. Laughter. Running away. Laughter. Running away. Laughter. Running away. Laughter. Running away from scrutiny with his bladder and his shouting. Blather. Many people, mr speaker, including the member for hastings and rye, have come to the conclusion that no deal is his only answer. But he has no mandate for that. In the last general election gave no mandate for no deal. The 2016 referendum gives no mandate for that. And, mr speaker, the co convener that. And, mr speaker, the co convener of the Vote Leave Campaign said in march this year, and a quote, we didnt voted to leave without a deal. He is now the chancellor of the duchy of lancaster. No deal is opposed by every business group, every industry group, every trade union, and has been opposed in votes in this house. I want duterte this reckless government. Taif out. I want duterte this reckless government. Taif out. Laughter. This government that is driving up poverty, deepening inequality, scapegoating migrants, whipping up divisions, and failing this country. A general election isnt something for the Prime Minister to play about with four propaganda points or even his very poor quality post on social media. So perhaps the premise again, could be the last time in this session of parliament, answer some questions. Firstly. Firstly. Order order you are very loud. Calm down, young man. You are getting very overexcited. Very, very overexcited. Very, very, very overexcited. Very, very, very overexcited. Very, very, very overexcited. Very overexcited. You can do better than that. Jeremy corbyn mr speaker, firstly, to the Prime Minister, where are his proposals for renegotiation . Where are they . When were they published, what is the their contents . Secondly, if you think they know deal, why doesnt he argue and seek the mandate foretz that it so far does not possess. No, im not giving way. Thirdly, if he is making, if as he claims, he is making progress. Go to brussels and seek. Order order order let me. Order order order let me. Order order calm yourself. Order. Is the Prime Minister satisfied that he has made his intervention . Order. Or does he wish to complete it . Id like to know, id like to know, mr speaker, if the honourable gentleman wishes to avoid a no deal brexit, why does he not call an election, get a mandate, go to brussels, and negotiate a deal himself. What is his objection to that . Because, mr speaker, we are the responsible party in this room. We dont want to crash out with no deal. And there is also, mr speaker, the issue, of course, of trust in a Prime Minister who is unable to answer any questions and is desperate to suspend parliament to avoid any scrutiny. Thirdly, mr speaker, if he is making progress, as he told the house last week, why did the taoiseach tell the Prime Minister only this morning that he was yet to receive workable plans. That was only this morning. The Prime Minister must be able to remember it. Perhaps he can explain why they felt the need to say that. I realise the desperation of the tory party when all they can do is rearrange things on the titanic. And, finally, since, mr speaker, he didnt bother to turn up. Mr speaker, if i could just informed, with great respect, the members opposite, i have no intention of giving way to any of them. Ok and, finally, mr speaker, since the Prime Minister didnt bother to turn up for the previous debate, will he respect the law and implement the eu withdrawal number six are if he has negotiated an agreement backed by this house on the 19th of october . This parliament is not a platform for the Prime Ministers games stop no, it is a chamber in which the elect did representatives of people hold the executive to account. That is what parliamentary democracy is about. The Prime Minister has been asked four simple questions. Order. MrJeremy Corbyn. Thank you, mr speaker. The Prime Minister is talking up no deal to one wing of his party, and talking up. Laughter. And talking up getting a deal to another wing of his party. The sad reality is hes not preparing adequately for the first, and not negotiating at all for the other. On sunday, mr speaker, the 15th, it is Un International day of democracy when the un celebrates governments being held accountable to their National Parliament in a democracy. This government is only interested in shutting down parliament to avoid any scrutiny. His of the stations and evasions are being rumbled both at home and abroad obfuscations. And thats why he doesnt answer questions. And he is so keen to avoid any scrutiny, tonight he will be attempting to Prorogue Parliament for one of the longest prorogation is theres ever been. Shutting down parliament, shutting down democracy, avoiding questions, taking this country over aycliffe with a no deal exit with all the damage that will do too many of the poorest and most vulnerable communities in our society aycliffe. And all the damage it will do to trade and jobs. All because he wa nts to ta ke do to trade and jobs. All because he wants to take this country in the direction of a trade deal solely with the usa rather than anybody else. Mr speaker, we are not walking into traps laid by this Prime Minister cheering mrjeremy mr jeremy lefroy. Thank you very much indeed, mr speaker. Im going to be extremely brief, and that is simply, and if i could ask the right honourable memberwho could ask the right honourable member who will be concluding on behalf of the government one or two questions, if we do vote for a general election tonight, it will mean that we enter into new types of rules. There will be purdah, there will be other things, rules upon the civil servants. What i would like to know, because ive heard from his very lips, the Prime Ministers strong contention that he is in favour of a deal, is negotiating on behalf of a deal, and i absolutely believe him in this. Hear, hear what i would like to hear from the government is how this can be pursued and prosecuted in the course ofa pursued and prosecuted in the course of a general election in which i believe also that the opposition would have, to some extent, at least ke pt would have, to some extent, at least kept informed. That is all i want to ask because i think its a very important point at a time during a general election where everybody is so general election where everybody is so consumed with campaigning quite rightly, how are we going to prosecute these negotiations . And also deal with the matters of keeping everybody, including the leader robbie the opposition, informed . Leader of the opposition. Mr ian blackford. Thank you, mr speaker. Opposition. Mr ian blackford. Thank you, mrspeaker. Can opposition. Mr ian blackford. Thank you, mr speaker. Can i say its a pleasure to follow the honourable gentleman from stratford, and let me commend him for the way that he has behaved with dignity in his intervention tonight. Can i say to the house, this is an absolutely crucial time for all of us. Its an absolutely crucial time for all our constituents. Of course, there are strong opinions, and there should be. Of course we should have robust debate. Frankly, mr speaker, i be. Of course we should have robust debate. Frankly, mr speaker, lam utterly appalled and ashamed at what weve witnessed in the house this evening. Ican weve witnessed in the house this evening. I can see members laughing, but all of us have a sense of responsibility. And remember this, we had the death of an mp a few short years ago. Too many members in this house are receiving death threats. Too many members of this house are getting verbal abuse outside this place. The leadership that we show. How we all conduct ourselves in this place is very important, andl ourselves in this place is very important, and i appealto ourselves in this place is very important, and i appeal to everybody to show restraint, to act in a dignified manner and to show respect to each other. We are that to all oui to each other. We are th

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