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Comments this week. If you want to share your opinions on bbc news and Current Affairs or even appear in the programme, do e mail us. Or you can find us on twitter. You can call us. And you have a look at our website. Samira will be back next week. From me and the rest of the team, thank you for watching. Goodbye. Good morning, welcome to breakfast with Charlie Stayt and Naga Munchetty. Our headlines today prince harry takes on the tabloids, the duke begins legal action against the owners of the sun and the mirror over alleged phone hacking. Violent protests in hong kong as demonstrators respond angrily to the new face mask ban. This was my mum and dad we were talking about. In her first tv interview, the daughter of a woman cleared of murdering her husband calls for a change in the law around assisted dying. England will reach the quarter finals of the Rugby World Cup with a win this morning. But their match with argentina is their toughest test yet. The return of the crazy cowboy. Well catch up with mike as prepares to take to the dancefloor as magic mike for strictlys movie week. And, as parkrun turns 15, ill be finding out why millions of people are notjust benefitting physically, but how it is helping their Mental Wellbeing too. Good morning. Quite a mixture of whether this weekend. Today looks like Western Areas will see the thickest cloud and rain. There the east should be brighter. Tomorrow is a reverse of fortunes. All the details later on. Its saturday, 5th october. Our top story the duke of sussex has launched a legal battle against the tabloid press, taking action against the owners of the sun, the now defunct news of the world, and the daily mirror, in relation to alleged phone hacking. Its not yet clear when prince harrys allegations date from, but in a phone hacking trial in 2011 he was named, along with prince william, as a victim. His move follows the announcement that his wife meghan is taking separate legal action against the mail on sunday. Ben ando has more. The end of another high profile tour fulfilling their royal duties, meeting and greeting, but amid ever frostier relations between the prince and the press. Now, harry is suing the publishers of two tabloid newspapers, the sun and the mirror, over allegations his mobile phone was hacked, its thought, in the early 20005. The phone hacking scandal led to the closure of the mighty news of the world newspaper in 2011. And, during a trial that year, princes harry, william and kate middleton, now the duchess of cambridge, were named as victims. But why is the prince suing now . Royals rarely reach for a lawyer or a writ, and the reason is that its such a high Risk Strategy. They can be cross examined, they can also have disclosure go to places that they dont really want. So it is a very high Risk Strategy, the things that are outside their control, but its also a high Risk Strategy for the editors who are going to have to give evidence too. There are strong suggestions that in taking this action, harry is ignoring the advice of palace officials. But ever since he refused to take part in the traditional newborn baby photocall when his son archie was born in may, its been clear that the duke of sussex is ready to challenge expectations of how much or how little privacy members of the royal family can expect. On tuesday in south africa, the duke accused britains tabloids of a Ruthless Campaign against his wife meghan, and she started Legal Proceedings against the mail on sunday, claiming it unlawfully published a private letter. It seems the sussexes believe only the courts can give them the privacy they feel theyre entitled to. Ben ando, bbc news. Speaking in the last hour on breakfast, former editor of the daily mirror roy greenslade, said prince harrys decision to take legal action was a declaration of war on the media. That kind of outburst that we saw earlier this week was not just suddenly a one off, but obviously a campaign, a full frontal assault on the tabloid newspapers. It is a declaration of war, in effect, which several papers have carried the story today, not, i notice, the sun and mirror but other papers have covered the story, saying much the same thing. They see this in the context of the prince really saying, enough is enough, im going for the tabloids. Thousands have taken part in unplanned protests in hong kong, after the territorys government announced a face mask ban. It comes after an escalation of violence during protests on tuesday, when an officer shot a demonstrator. 0ur china correspondent robin brant is there for us now. What can you tell us, robin . Give us a sense of what might happen today and how it feels on the streets where you are. Well, it definitely feels, this morning. There was a small gathering outside this Department Store about an hour ago. Around 300 people, most of them wearing face masks. Some were shouting that they have the right to wear those face masks. They moved peacefully down the road. This is an area known for its shopping on the west of hong kong island. That is the beginning of a small protest here, but it does seem pretty quiet here, but it does seem pretty quiet here today. Most of the people are shopping, and that is what they are doing as they come and go in this area. Ithink doing as they come and go in this area. I think the reason that things area. I think the reason that things are calmer today, certainly compared to last night, is because the metro system remains closed. Services of light rail, underground railand buses were suspended yesterday, the first time this has happened since the protest. If you come down to this area of hong kong this afternoon, there are grills over metro stations, and that station actually shows the scars of some fire attacks in recent days. The move by the authorities to shut down the metro has been effective because it is harderfor the metro has been effective because it is harder for people to get around, and harder for it is harder for people to get around, and harderfor protesters to get to places they want to get to. Here, businesses have yet again taken preventative here, businesses have yet again ta ken preventative measures. Here, businesses have yet again taken preventative measures. Some are closed. The bank of china just down there, it is a prominent symbol of Mainland China s influence here, they are closing all of their branches today, apart from one. They dont want to take any risks. We saw the incident last night, i think it isa the incident last night, i think it is a real example of the microcosm that we have here, in terms of the tension between protesters and police. The policeman used his pistol in self defence when he was dragged from his car and someone was shotin dragged from his car and someone was shot in the leg. It is an unpleasant feeling between some on both sides here. Thank you. A british australian woman and her australian boyfriend have been released from a prison in iran after being held for three months. Jolie king and mark firkin were arrested for reportedly flying a drone without a permit. Australias foreign minister says tehran has dropped all charges against the couple. Senior democrats in the us are demanding the white house hands over documents for their investigation into president trump. Mr trump is accused of pressuring ukraine to investigate his political rival joe biden, which he denies. Heres our washington correspondent, chris buckler. Democrats in the congress had been asking the white house for these documents. Now, by issuing the subpoena they are demanding them. And this is all intended to put pressure on the president. Among the things they want to see is a full rather than a rough transcript, of exactly what donald trump said to his ukrainian counterpart, volodymyr zelensky, back injuly. You might remember that controversially, on that call, mr trump asked president zelensky to launch an investigation into his political rival and potential president ial candidate joe biden. Democrats also want to find any documents that suggest people in the white house were discussing the possibility of suspending Security Assistance to ukraine. There had been suggestions that the president might have been looking at that something he can use as a bargaining chip with ukraine. Theyve also asked for a letter from the chairman of the congressional committees looking into impeachment and in them they say they have been stonewalled by the white house and accuse the president of choosing a path of defiance, obstruction and cover up. These were strong words and there has been a strong response from the white house, in which they say this is nothing mr trump is accused of pressuring ukraine to investigate his political rival joe biden, which he denies. More than 1,600 uk high street shops have closed as a result of restructuring deals since the beginning of last year, according to new figures. The local data company has looked at the impact of so called Company Voluntary arrangements and found that nearly two thirds of closed stores are still sitting empty. When you think of someone with a lot of shoes, imelda marcos, or perhaps Carrie Bradshaw from sex in the city, might spring to mind. Well, heres a new name for you. Gary aspden. Hes a trainer obsessive, who owns 2,000 pairs of adidas sneakers. Hes put around half of them on display in blackburn, lancashire, where fans queued overnight to see the collection, and to buy a pair of limited Edition Trainers emblazoned with the name of the town. Profits will go to a charity for the homeless. We will have the weather for you for the weekend. Here this morning in sa lfo rd , the weekend. Here this morning in salford, a beautiful morning. Absolutely stunning. And we will also have all the sport because england take on australia in the by. England take on australia in the rugby. Argentina. Sorry, argentina. Have they paid australia . No, not yet. Argentina. 0k, no, not yet. Argentina. Ok, lets do a timed check there are fresh calls for a change in the law on assisted dying, from the family of an 80 year old woman who has been cleared of killing her terminally ill husband. Mavis eccleston and her husband dennis were both found unconscious at their home in staffordshire after taking an overdose. Mavis recovered, but was later charged with murder. John maguire has been to speaking to their daughterjoy. Married for 60 years, their intention was to die as they have lived, together. 18 months ago, Dennis Eccleston was suffering with terminal bowel cancer. He just wanted to end his life without any pain and go without any treatment. So his wife mavis gave him an overdose of prescription medicine before taking one herself. Both were found unconscious at their bungalow in staffordshire. But after hospital treatment, mavis survived. She was then charged with her husbands murder. That word murder that doesnt live in our lives. You know, were normal people and when you hear that someones been murdered, you think of something horrific and this was my mum and dad we were talking about. So i was literally. Its ok. I was holding on to her and just didnt want her to i didnt want them to take her, and you could see that they they didnt want to take her, but they had to, because it was theirjob. And so obviously, she went away, bless her, and shes only four foot eight in a nightie, dressing gown and slippers, because we got told she was just gonna be away for three hours. It ended up being nearly 30. After a trial lasting almost three weeks, a jury found mavis not guilty. Her family are joining calls for a change in legislation to allow assisted dying. The law exists to protect the sanctity of life. How can a law like this be introduced and how can a law do both things . Well, they have it in another countries and it works perfectly well. Were talking about people not the Vulnerable People people who are of sound mind to have that choice, to be able to turn around and say this is it now. This is how i would like to go. So for instance, my dad i would like to go at home with my family around me. And then, of course, youre going to have the medical team there, youre going to have signed all of the documents and everything else. Theyre going to have been safeguarded. Were not talking aboutjust anybody being able to do it and get away with it. This is not what were talking about at all. Were talking about a law. One which the government says would have to be approved by parliament which, four years ago, voted against a change. But maviss family says they will keep campaigning after the loss of their father, and very nearly losing their mother. John maguire, bbc news, staffordshire. Werejoined here in the studio by sarah wooton from dignity in dying, an organisation that believes assisted dying should be legal. And from our glasgow studio by Gordon Mcdonald from care not killing, which promotes Palliative Care. Sarah, i know you have been supporting this family is the case has come about. Can you tell us how they have been dealing with it . |j was with the family earlier this week. I know that mavis is quite damaged from the experience of being in court. It really has caused suffering, this law, basically it has criminalised compassion. Mavis was trying to show compassion towards her husband. They discussed him wanting to end his life early because of his terminal bowel cancer, said to have this happen behind closed doors, to be forced into this agonising situation for the family was horrendous, but then find yourself in court charged with murder was a horrendous situation for a grandmother of 80. I know that jy for a grandmother of 80. I know that joy feels strongly that the law has put them into this position. The whole family feel that stop they feel the law needs to change as a people can have upfront conversations about what they want to happen at the end of life. Conversations about what they want to happen at the end of lifem conversations about what they want to happen at the end of life. It is interesting to hearjoy speaking a moment ago. This family has been through a terrible ordeal, and they are now questioning the law in relation to how it is applied. What do you make of that appeal, that they think something should be changed . Firstly, i would they think something should be changed . Firstly, iwould say they think something should be changed . Firstly, i would say we are all moved hearing their story, but the law is there to protect people who are in a vulnerable position, it is there to protect us all. Actually, mavis was not charged of assisting suicide under the assisted suicide act. She was charged with murder, and so even if the know have been changed, it would not have altered the fact, in terms of the Decision Making that took place in this situation. Do you think it was appropriate for her to be charged with murder and manslaughter . Well, i dont know all the facts. I was not involved in making that decision, so i cant comment on that. But what i can say is the love we have is there to protect people who are in a vulnerable position. There are many people, particularly towards the end of life, who are very vulnerable, and that is why we have a law in place to protect them. We are conscious that there are pressures applied to people, pressures applied to people, pressures that we apply a ten quit internally to ourselves, and pressures from external forces, so we have a law in place to act as a deterrent. Given the sequence of events in this family situation, do you think it was the right thing for her to have gone through this Court Process . Her to have gone through this Court Process . Well, i am not commenting oii process . Well, i am not commenting on whether it was right for her to have gone through the Court Process or not, i dont have the facts to comment on that, but we do have the law treating people with compassion, the director of Public Prosecutions 80 years ago produced guidelines in relation to prosecution and assisted suicide. There are very few prosecutions in relation to assisted suicide because the law does treat people with compassion. But that doesnt mean we should remove the law because it is there to protect people. I dont think the law has treated this family with compassion at all. It is wrong to say that if the law was changed, that it would not have affected this case. It clearly would have. The cps was clearly would have. The cps was clear that there was evidence to prosecute and it was in the Public Interest to do so, so it would happen to other families in this situation. They also said that it was the courts place to look at the law on assisted dying, was not their place. If it was the place, they could have had upfront discussions about what dennis wanted at the end of life. Is it your belief that if the law was changed, people would be unnecessarily killed . That is what is happening in other countries. In the netherlands, many people are killed without even giving their consent. That is where there is a full euthanasia law. Giving their consent. That is where there is a full euthanasia lawn that was the case. Lets just bring sarah that was the case. Letsjust bring sarah in on that was the case. Lets just bring sarah in on that point. If that was the case, why would other countries keep legislating . We see law is being taken on by other countries. There is no evidence of abuse, but there are ten states, over 150 Million People worldwide, that have access to this. Australia has legalised, the Western Australia government has built in legislation. New zealand, canada, america. The discussion does go on, and we have debated this a lot on this safer, but there are concerns, and what gordon is saying other concerns about the welfare of Vulnerable People, and that is what makes it very, very difficult, wavy lines can get blurred. How easily can below clarify that. Yes, there should be strict safeguards. Nobody is saying this to be a free for all. At the moment it is a wild west with people abandoned. If you can afford to go to go to switzerland for assisted dying, you can. There is a police and crime commissioner who was recently diagnosed with motor neurone disease. He has got 30 years of experience in policing, and he says he is having to look to switzerland and he says there should bea switzerland and he says there should be a clear process with upfront safeguards. 0bviously, that would be safer than an investigation after the fact. Do you want to pick up on that last issue . That people who are ina that last issue . That people who are in a vulnerable circumstance could be more at risk. Well, if you look at the official statistics from the 0regon health authority, 54 of people last year who opted for assisted suicide said they did so because they felt a burden. Of course people feel a burden, but that doesnt mean we should help them to kill themselves. We actually need them to help to see that they are not a burden. Thats what we really need to be emphasising and concentrating, on providing proper Palliative Care. 25 of people in the uk dont get the Palliative Care they need, and that is where we should focus our resources. We will have to wind this up. Thank you both for your time this morning. It is important to say a big thank you to this family as well. Joy he did the interview, withjohn this family as well. Joy he did the interview, with john maguire, this family as well. Joy he did the interview, withjohn maguire, it is a brave thing they have done, say thank you for sharing with us. Heres stav with a look at this mornings weather. Good morning. Some glorious sunrises out and about this morning. We have got a weather front pushing in from the west. The sun is reflecting off the west. The sun is reflecting off the clouds, giving this lovely glow. This is the banks of loch lomond. This is the banks of loch lomond. This weekend is quite a mixture with a weather front working its way in, bringing wet weather to western parts. Tomorrow, the weatherfront will be across the east of the country. It is difficult to put a headline on it, but all of us will see rain at some point. This is the weather front i am talking about. It is starting off dry, central and eastern parts of the country. Wendy and the wind will pick up through the day, could feed him one or two showers. Further east across england, it should stay dry with some hazy sunshine. The rain will p0p up some hazy sunshine. The rain will pop up across the west, turning heavier for western scotland. The wind will pick up and they will be quite strong by the end of the day, 40 quite strong by the end of the day, a0 mph gusts. Wet and windy across Northern Ireland and knocking on the door of western england and into wales later in the day. Light rain and drizzle ahead of the main vein. Given any brightness, 15 17dc, not too bad. For the evening and overnight, the rain spread eastwards. Itll turn out be quite heavy at times, with a rumble of thunder as it pushes eastward. And it grinds to a halt across the north east of the country. A bit drier by the end of the night further west. Temperatures for most in double figures tonight. The weather front will linger across the east, but it will get squeezed out across the north. You will notice an area of low pressure just developing, which will hold the wet weather across Eastern England and the south east. The wind is picking up, too. A met Office Yellow warning is in force for the eastern side of the country, where we could see quite a bit of rainfall and the risk of some localised flooding, particularly across Eastern England and into the south east. The wind is picking up across the south as the area of low pressure develops. The best of the sunshine on sunday afternoon Northern Ireland, wales and the south west, but staying cloudy across the north. Some late brightness across eastern scotland as the weather front pivots around. Next week, it stays unsettled with areas of low pressure moving in from the west. Windy and wet at times come up with some sunshine in between. Thank you. A lively paper review today. Lets look at the front pages first. Harry steps up press war with phone hack claim, the Daily Telegraph says. The paper points out the timing of the dukes legal challenge, which comes just days after he announced his wife meghan was suing the mail on sunday. The guardian front page also features prince harry it says there are no details on the nature of the intended claims, but that they could refer the photo there is of Katarina Johnson thompson, who has won gold in the heptathlon at the athletics World Championships in doha. The times reports that the review of the metropolitan polices investigation into vip sex abuse has led to growing demands for a criminal inquiry into alleged misconduct by senior officers. Katarina Johnson Thompson appears on that front page too, alongside herfriend, killing eve star, jodie comer. They went to the same school. And finally, a defiant borisjohnson insists britain will leave the eu on the 31st of october, according to the daily express. It reports a downing street source as downplaying the requirement for the pm to seek a delay if he does not achieve a deal. Dr nighat arif is here to tell us whats caught her eye. Charlie, im not sure how much you will like this. Maths teases. Some great stories, this is a great teaser. Thank you i have had plenty of criticism in the past for pulling the face i just of criticism in the past for pulling the face ijust pulled, so i retract that, because you shouldnt be scared about maths. I have retracted my face. This is a great mass teaser because it is linked to Better Health and well being. Apparently, studies say that if you are better at doing maths teases, you would better at making financial decisions, health and well being decisions, health and well being decisions, and possibly, dare i say it, live longer, so it is good to get those brain cells fired. Are they long winded . A town has 1000 people. This gives the illusion. 500 of them are in a choir. 0f this gives the illusion. 500 of them are in a choir. Of the 500, 100 men. 500 of them are in a choir. Of the 500,100 men. Of the 500 of them are in a choir. Of the 500,100 men. Of the 500 500 of them are in a choir. Of the 500,100 men. Of the 500 inhabitants not in the choir, 300 amen. Are men. What is the chance that a randomly drawn man is in the choir . Lets leave him to ponder that. I am dyslexic so maths is not great for me. Ifind dyslexic so maths is not great for me. I find number dyslexic so maths is not great for me. Ifind number is really confusing, which is bizarre. I have to be really careful. As a doctor, when i was training, i had to be really careful because i found out early on in my medical training that iam early on in my medical training that i am dyslexic with numbers. Early on in my medical training that i am dyslexic with numbersm early on in my medical training that i am dyslexic with numbers. It is possible. My possible. My next story is one that is really close to my heart. Kings college hospital, a father donated 20 of his liver because his baby boy needed a liver transplant. The dad donated in a ten hour operation, and bake for united after the transplant. I know that bbc brea kfast transplant. I know that bbc breakfast have already covered organ donation, or the lack of organ donors out there in the to spring 2020, the law change that is coming about, where you have to opt out, and knowing the experiences we have had with my own son who needed a liver transplant, this really struck home. I know the team at kings couege home. I know the team at Kings College hospital, they are fantastic, and what an amazing, heart warming story this is. We forget that being live donors carries more risks. Someone who has passed away and decided to donate, the risks are not as great because you are not putting a healthy person at risk. Even if you are on the donor register, you have to share your wishes with your family. When it comes to it, if they dont know that you wanted to be a donor, they can actually go against it. You mentioned your own story. He said hello to you yesterday, uncle charlie everything is good . He is doing really well. He is going for his six monthly cheque next thursday, so we are really excited that this. It has been nine months and we have kept him out of hospital. He is such a bundle of energy. We have time for one more story, you love the stock story, dont you . Im a huge dog lovers, i love dogs but this amazing lady, who has, i think, als. Spinal muscular atrophy. She trained her doctor load the laundry, trained her dog to load the laundry, use the cashpoint machine, take out cash. Does it know the pin number . She puts it in but he takes out all the money and has done that since he was a money and has done that since he was 3 puppy money and has done that since he was a puppy just money and has done that since he was a puppy. Just the tenacity of the human spirit and dogs coming together. And also these very practical applications, but also talking about animals and how they are good for your welfare. They are. And she says in the article, i got my independence back from being able to do that. And the dog can load laundry. We will speak again in an hour. Thank you very much. Lets see whats coming up later. Hes trading in his stetson for an umbrella. Well catch up with mike, or should we say magic mike, and his daughters, ahead of tonights strictly come dancing. Stay with us, headlines coming up. Hello, this is breakfast with Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt. Heres a summary of this mornings main news. The duke of sussex has launched a legal battle against the tabloid press, taking action against the owners of the sun, the now defunct news of the world, and the daily mirror, in relation to alleged phone hacking. Its not yet clear when prince harrys allegations date from but in a phone hacking trial in 2011 he was named, along with prince william, as a victim. His move follows the announcement that his wife meghan is taking separate legal action against the mail on sunday. Thousands have taken part in unplanned protests in hong kong, after the territorys government announced a face mask ban. Demonstrators blocked roads, torched chinese flags and vandalised metro stations, as police fired rounds of tear gas. It comes after an escalation of violence on tuesday, when an officer shot a demonstrator. A british australian woman and her australian boyfriend have been released from a prison in iran after being held for three months. Jolie king and mark firkin were arrested for reportedly flying a drone without a permit. Australias foreign minister says tehran has dropped all charges against the couple. More than 1,600 uk high street shops have closed as a result of restructuring deals since the beginning of last year, according to new figures. The local data company has looked at the impact of so called Company Voluntary arrangements and found that nearly two thirds of closed stores are still sitting empty. Nottingham, birmingham and harrogate are among the worst affected areas. Senior democrats in the us are demanding the white house hands over documents for their investigation into president trump. They say they have ample evidence that mr trump put pressure on ukraine to investigate his political rival, joe biden which he denies. A disgraced politician in colombia has escaped jail by shimmying down a rope during a doctors appointment. Cctv footage shows aida merlano who is serving 15 years for electoral fraud and other crimes pulling the rope from her bag and tying it to a desk at the Doctors Office in bogota. Her daughter has been arrested but merlano remains at large after being whisked away on a motorcyle. So we will turn our attention to sport, now. England against argentina in the Rugby World Cup. Yes, avoid an upset, thats the key thing. We have seen a couple already at the world cup, when ireland lost to japan. And this morning, knowing a win will see them to the final, but argentina are capable of causing an upset, they were semifinalists last time. But it is a big one. The atmosphere certainly building in tokyo, around 30 minutes from kick off there. Thejob tokyo, around 30 minutes from kick off there. The job of qualifying almost done, englands top of their group after a bonus point win against tonga and the United States. But its not lost on eddiejones that it will be their toughest test yet. Rugbys a physical game. Its a tough, physical game. Weve seen that already at the world cup. So the passion and pride come out and the toughness with your play. But then, theres the emotional control, because when youve got a lot of passion and pride, it tends to multiply your strengths and multiply your weaknesses. So we obviously want to multiply our strengths and attack their weaknesses. Australia, beaten finalists four years ago, remain on course to reach the the quarter finals, beating uruguay a5 10. Remember they were beaten by wales in the group. Jordan petaia crossed over for their second try, handy work at the end to get the ball grounded, the youngest player to start for australia in a world cup, Tevita Kuridrani scored two tries, this his second, a lovely break. Dane haylett petty also got two. This was australias final score. They crossed for seven tries in total and will qualify if wales beat fiji in four days time. Now to some fast times at the world athletics championships where great britains a by 100 metre relay teams reached todays finals. The men chalked up the best time this year to qualify. As the reigning World Champions, they were anchored home by Nethaneel Mitchell bla ke bringing it home in a time of 37. 56 seconds, a seasons best. Brazil came second and usa in third. Dina asher smiths hopes of a third medal remain alive as the women came second in their heat behind jamaica. The new 200m World Champion was rested but will return to the team for the tonights final. Bit of history in the mens1500m as three british men reached the final for the first time in the competitions history. After neil gourley qualified comfortably in his heat josh kerr made it through in ath, while Jake Wightman had a nervous wait to find out if hed made it, but his seventh place finish was enough. And in the mens 20 kilometre race walk last night tom bosworth finished in seventh place. He was disqualified from the event at the last World Championships, and was delighted to finish strongly here. But hell be able to sympathise with fellow brit callum wilkinson, who was unfortunately disqualfied this time round, heartbreak there. To todays premier league action. The big game of the day sees Brendan Rodgers making his first return to liverpool since his sacking there as manager, he returns with his in form leicester side. And amongst other things, dan, he features on football focus today. Good morning. Its four years yesterday that Brendan Rodgers left anfield. We had anniversary, as well. Its a strange 3pm kick off today for liverpool, and Brendan Rodgers has spoken to mark this week talking about all sorts of things, one of them the sort of realisation you get it when you are, i suppose, getting a bit older, he says that its that relationship with the players when they are all a lot younger than you are. You sort of realise that they are not the same generational space. Realise that they are not the same generationalspace. Heres realise that they are not the same generational space. Heres a little bit of Brendan Rodgers. In this sort of click and ping culture weve got, people are saying that the ability to manage individuals and have empathy are going to be the key qualities moving forwards across the whole of life, let alone football. Yes, i think it always has been but i think even more now so in society. As a coach, i always say that youll always work, as a football manager, in an age group of between 16 and 35, and there might be a few that will go on beyond that, but each year you move away from that age band. But its still very important that you can connect with the young guys. But also whilst not making an idiot of yourself, which is important its not just in its notjust in football, because its got to the point, i used to be the youngest in the newsroom and eve ryo ne the youngest in the newsroom and everyone would be like, youre so young, you wait now, i do exactly the same thing with all our producers out there. Its like when you meet somebody going to university and you think it cant be that long ago that i went to university. You thought i was going to Say Something about you then didnt you . I was saying, im feeling old its all overrated, anyway. We are all the same, we are all human beings, arent we . When clu b all human beings, arent we . When club together. Charlie has brought it back now. Remember aaron ramsey, losses and it looked like he was going to sign a contract with arsenal, went with juventus, and he is playing with rinaldo and the others. Going to go and see him this week as well. England play brazil in Womens International today, so we are only on for half an hour today. A short programme. We will not mess about today. Thats good. For womens football. Its a very important game, 30,000 tickets sold. Its great that now womens football women sports are being given that time. Essentially, we are a warm up to date for the Womens International. And we norwich play aston villa. Whats the cramming the half an hour. Lots to cram into half an hour. Lots to cram into half an hour. Thank you very much indeed. And we will be watching the womens football as well, wont we . The 1960s were great, you know. Remember that . No. 1983, the 1960s were great, you know. Rememberthat . No. 1983, iwas the 1960s were great, you know. Remember that . No. 1983, iwas born. Youre going to have to go Salford Red Devils finish one of the bottom in super league last season. This time around they could be champions. They reached their first grand final last night with a 28 a win over the five time champions wigan. Joe lynskey reports. This is the miracle of the red devils, tears of joy this is the miracle of the red devils, tears ofjoy for this is the miracle of the red devils, tears of joy for one this is the miracle of the red devils, tears ofjoy for one of the great underdogs. There one match away from the super league title. Even arriving at wigan, they were rank outsiders but these are the play offs, where it means more. Wigan had one forfor night meetings this year but now salford had worked out how to get through. The opening maiden start to believe. In the second half, under the post but made a dentjust enough to make the ball brushed the line. Salford try, joyce. We then were being pushed off home turf by the neighbours. Salford have one of the lowest budgets in the league but here they were supercharged. The grand final is at 0ld supercharged. The grand final is at old trafford. You can almost see it from a salfords ground. Some might have thought they would never get there. Next weekend it will feel like home. So there you go. Is that if you enough time to recover, charlie . No issues at all a lawyer has told the bbc that developers of new homes are imposing hefty annual charges on people who buy freehold houses. These charges can be hundreds of pounds a year and are not regulated. Moneybox presenter paul lewis has been looking into this he joins us now from our london newsroom. Good morning. Just to be clear, these are freehold homes, not leasehold, but owners still have to pay an annual rent . Absolutely. You remember the sort of leasehold scandal of a few months ago when the government said it would stop any regular ground rent, it was called, in the case of leasehold. But now developers are not going to sell houses leasehold any more, theyre selling them free help at imposing this and fee which is called a red charge, to pay for things like maintenance of the estate and lighting in the kind of thing. Annual fee estate and lighting in the kind of thing. Annualfee which is called a rent charge. But in one case we have come across its nearly £200 a year, and this lady is concerned it is going to go up, and she is a pensioner and finds it very hard to pay for some so there is a great concern about it. Weve talked to the conveyancing association and would of their directors told us that she is concerned its becoming more common. that she is concerned its becoming more common. One of their directors. And because these are unregulated and uncapped, they could rise to any amount. Thats the issue, there uncapped, so thats where the nervousness comes in. So if people are buying a new home, how can they protect themselves and their wallets . The important thing when buying any harm, particularly a new home, is to get your own lawyer, but one that has been giving you by the developers because that creates a potential conflict of interest. When buying any home. Get your lawyer to look carefully at the time is, what youre in for and liable to pay, and make sure that you can afford it and youre happy with it. And do remember and ask your lawyer particularly, its £200 a year now, what could it grow to . And if the a nswer what could it grow to . And if the answer is, we dont know, probably you should look elsewhere. And i should say the conveyancing association is so worried about this it has actually mentioned it to the government, has written to the government, has written to the government saying, youre controlling ground rents, maybe you should include the rent charge in these controls. What are the Developers Say about all this . Persimmon, developer, says they operate a fair policy of charging reasonable administration fees, purchases are provided with all details material to the property during the purchasing process. They basically say, we are fine. And thats certainly true but the worry is that these rent charges could be sold on to other firms that they could then start pushing them up. Sold on to other firms that they could then start pushing them uplj was good to hear from you, thanks for bringing this to our attention. And of course you will be doing more mid day on radio for. See you, paul. The time is 8 a6am, and may time for a run 15 years ago this week, a londoner with a passion forjogging organised a five kilometre run around his local park, timing his friends efforts before they all went for a cooked breakfast. That meeting of 13 runners has since morphed into a global phenomenon called parkrun. More than six Million People have signed up and organisers say they have proof it makes them healthier and happier. 0ur reporter alpa patel is at londons bushy park, where that first run took place. Morning. Morning to you and look at all the runners that have turned out for the 50th anniversary of parkrun. Bushy parkis 50th anniversary of parkrun. Bushy park is the home of the parkrun, as you say, 13 people turned out here to do the first parkrun. Today, 2000 people are expected to take part in todays event, and who doesnt know someone todays event, and who doesnt know someone who takes part in a parkrun . Lets get more on this, we can speak to tom, the chief operating officer, and zana. Tom, tell us, why do people get up on a cold morning on saturday to come out for parkrun . Its amazing, 15 years ago, 13 people and five volunteers were strategic and this weekend. People ask us why that is 13 runners and five volunteers were stood here. I think people need to be social, the active, be helpers, to be part of a community. In parkrun and organisations us give people the opportunity to be part of a community. And its notjust the physical benefits. A survey recently showed the mental benefits, mental well being benefits from parkrun. Showed the mental benefits, Mental Wellbeing benefits from parkrun. We have long believed that volunteering isa have long believed that volunteering is a hugely important part of paracrine and society, and its blues everything together. Hugely important part of parkrun. There was recent research, runners filled in a survey and it proved that the health and well being benefits of volunteering were at least as good as the health and well being benefits for walking, jogging or running. Youre one of the volu nteers running. Youre one of the volunteers here, do you recognise mental well being benefits of parkrun . Certainly. Parkrun has changed my life. I moved here for work and i didnt know anyone here at all, i was really isolated and lonely. And somebody at work mention parkrun so i thought, ill give it a try, if i dont like it i leave. Absolutely loved it. Ive met loads of people, made lots of friends and itsjust been of people, made lots of friends and its just been brilliant. Of people, made lots of friends and itsjust been brilliant. Sol volunteered a few times now, and after you volunteer 25 times, you get this awesome t shirt its changed my life and its been amazing, i recommend it to everyone. Youre a doctor, as well. Do you recognise the Health Benefits it brings . Certainly. Apart from the physical benefits, just being in a community, meeting lots of different people, there are so many people that take part in parkrun, youre bound to get on with some of them and its such a friendly atmosphere. Theres lots of Different Things that you can do and be part of. I would recommend it to anyone. We are about 15 minutes away from the start of this park run and we can now talk toa of this park run and we can now talk to a mother and son who are about to ta ke to a mother and son who are about to take part. How exciting is it for you to come down and take part in Something Like this . Its fantastic. I started running parkrun back in 2008, at that stage i did it every single saturday, gradually with time, i became a mum, had to back up a little bit. Thats when i went more into volunteering. And six years later, this is my youngest but now he gets me out of bed, and do together, which is fantastic. He does the junior parkrun on a sunday morning and hes been saying, i really wa nt morning and hes been saying, i really want to do the five k with the adults. And its really fun to do it together. Thats amazing. How are you feeling about todays paracrine . Excited. And how far will you be running . Do you know . Five k. Thats amazing good luck to all the runners, we will be back in the next hour to see how they got on. Back to you. Thanks very much. Lots of people really enjoying those parkruns. And they will be all over the country, as they are now, they will be wondering what the weather will be doing. Good morning, because many central and eastern parts, the weather will be fine, but a weather front approaching from the west, the first signs of this in loch lomond and aargau and beat. Glorious pictures turning up across the border. And argyll and beat. Today Western Areas will be cloudier and wetter, to the east the drier, but tomorrow the reverse. There weather front moving in slowly, this area of low is when thes wet and windy weather and next week could be quite unsettled. Today it stays dry for much of these, the sunshine turning hazy through the day, the best of it for scotland in the Northern Isles where it will be quite windy, maybe one or two showers, but all that while the weather front working in words so turning wetter and windier across western scotland, some of the rain could be quite persistent towards the end of the day, temperatures here around 12, 13. Northern ireland, wet and windy as well by the end of the day, the rain getting into the north west of england into western wales and reaching the south west of england later on. Could be a little light rain and drizzle, but temperature better for these, maybe 17, and winds lighter than across the north. The wind turned stronger this evening, gusts of a0, a0 five miles per hour, and the rain continues to push across england, wales and scotland. Could have the odd rumble of thunder through the night here. It tends to clear away from the west, maybe one or two showers, for the east it will be very wet and the temperatures for all Holding Around double figures. The weather front lingers across North Eastern scotland and Eastern England through the day, but begins to pull away from scotland as we see this next little secondary area of low pressure develop across the south east. That will increase winds through the day. The met office have a yellow warning across the north and east of the uk because the rain is going to be persistent, for the unsaturated ground, especially across Eastern England, the east midlands and the south east towards east anglia, where we have seen quite a lot of rainfall. Some of that localised flooding could be possible to stop stays wet all day, turns windier across parts of england and wales. Some sunshine across part of the south west and Northern Ireland, largely cloudy skies for scotland but may be a little bit of solvent routing eastern brightness reaching eastern brightness reaching eastern scotland. And then into next week, wet and windy on monday and then remains unsettled with westerly winds, bands of wind and rain but also some sunshine in between. Thanks, see you later. Less than six months ago, rory stewart was one of the key contenders in the conservative leadership race, but his political ambitions have since taken a new direction. The former tory mp announced he is leaving what he calls the gothic shouting chamber of westminster, to stand as an independent candidate in the next london mayoral election. He joins us now from our london newsroom. Thank you for your time this morning. Well come on to the mayoral candidacy in a moment. I wonder, though, you had, have, a reputation for being, i dont know what the word is, for they may be a maverick, someone word is, for they may be a maverick, someone who is straight talking amongst politicians. Do some straight talking for us now and tells what is the worst that you saw within cabinet, within the government . What was the worst of what you saw . I think fundamentally, i felt a lack of seriousness. I think this is a serious country but i feel that politics has think this is a serious country but ifeel that politics has become not serious. I felt this sitting at meetings, where i felt that people we re meetings, where i felt that people were not taking their roles seriously. I felt it last wednesday in the response to the Supreme Court judgment. And in a way, of course, what ive done is ive left the conservative party but im also moving away from Party Politics in general, because i actually dont like the way that people are behaving now. Its distressing for me to see Something Like parliament, which has been a symbol for the whole world, of how you conduct democratic politics. Youre free to speak may be in a way you havent been before. You talk about people, andi been before. You talk about people, and i miss him and youre talking about people in the nation, not taking theirjob seriously. I assume youre talking about. Would you like to give an example . The problem is the most shocking exa m ples problem is the most shocking examples are in things like the National Security council and cabinet, which i am bound not to talk about, so i cannot reveal what happens in those things. But i can assure you that sitting there, discussing Serious International issues where there are british lives and international lives at stake, i was very shocked by how Little People knew and how little they were concentrating on the way those conversations were conducted. Are you say you have been party to meetings, and people will understand the secrecy youre talking about, but are you saying youve been party to conversations with senior figures, and im not sure whether youre talking about borisjohnson when he was foreign secretary, maybe youre not going to tell me that, with seniorfigures of youre not going to tell me that, with senior figures of whom people would think very differently if they knew what you knew . Actually, to be honest, i think most of the public can see this. They dont need to be sitting in secret meetings with me. Everybody now feels that our politicians are not conducting themselves with the kind of dignity and seriousness we would expect. You can see are just and seriousness we would expect. You can see arejust in and seriousness we would expect. You can see are just in the house of commons, you can see it in the question is, you can see it in the way people appear, you can see it in the very robotic answers that ministers give. It does not feel to any of us, and you dont need to be ina any of us, and you dont need to be in a secret meeting to see this, as though these people are conducting themselves in a way that you would expect, people running a sensible business to conduct themselves or people running at charity to conduct themselves. Its become a sort of pantomime. Jeremy corbyn reacting to your announcement that you would like to become the mayor of london, he says you back to tory cuts had ripped the heart out of our communities and have done so much damage to our police nhs and schools. You think youre part of the problem, not the solution. Youve just put your finger there on the classic thing, which is, we are back to Party Politics again. 0bviously back to Party Politics again. Obviously as a conservative, i was very much in the centre as a conservative, and i was taking forward liberal policies as a minister but i was doing it as a conservative, he is right. But what we shouldnt do is get into this world of everybody throwing personal insults. 0ne world of everybody throwing personal insults. One of the things that president 0bama, i think, brought to the United States political scene was to say that you should be able to disagree about policies without implying the other site are evil. But we really need to do in london is have serious conversations about how we deal with knife crime or air pollution without suggestion that the reason somebody is in getting to grips with them is that somehow there is something rurally bad with them. We share values, generally, as a society, in britain. We share what we wa nt a society, in britain. We share what we want this country to be and i think we should treat each other with respect. A lot of people would get along with those kind principles but reality, 20 20s when that decision will be made, and during that time you will be asked inevitably about the track record of those who preceded you. Inevitably that involves criticism and you look at things like knife crime, for example, in london, one of the scourges of society, people wont wa nt to scourges of society, people wont want to hear you say, you just cant argue about this. They were want ideas. They will definitely want ideas. They will definitely want ideas that the way to do that is to have punchy ideas without making it personal. There are many things you can do, not just personal. There are many things you can do, notjust in terms of putting more police on the streets, but would you make the police do, what standards you set, have you listened to communities and engage with people. Ive been out recently in glasgow Walking Around with an extraordinary project on violence in glasgow which has been very successful over the last ten years and one of the things that is striking but that is the group and the energy with which these things are driven through. Thats one of the things people sometimes forget in politics. Its all very well publishing a manifesto or having the theory, but actually, what makes the difference is the way its implemented on the ground that doesnt matter whether youre running a business or charity or a school, its the people on the ground that makes the difference, trusting them, listening to them, getting behind them. And in the case of london, that is getting behind police officers, getting behind communities. Thank you for your time this morning, good to speak to you. Rory stewart, of course, former conservative mp is now standing as an independent for the mayor of london. Stay with us, headlines coming up. Good morning, welcome to breakfast with Charlie Stayt and Naga Munchetty. 0ur headlines today prince harry takes on the tabloids the duke begins legal action against the owners of the sun and the mirror over alleged phone hacking. Violent protests in hong kong, as demonstrators respond angrily to the new face mask ban. England will reach the quarterfinals of the Rugby World Cup with a win this morning. Theyre under way in tokyo against argentina