With just hours to go before that crucial eu summit begins, can Boris Johnson deliver a brexit deal in time . The dup say no to borisjohnsons brexit deal, are we heading for another lengthy delay . Also, a headteacher who was convicted last month of running an Illegal School has told this programme she is determined to keep it open. I have been teaching for 15 years, andl i have been teaching for 15 years, and i have seen how children may be need a different approach, and that is what we are trying to do at ambassadors, and this is why i believe in what we are trying to do, because we have seen a lot of results within our children. They are happy. This is the chief inspector of schools, why cant she shut down the Illegal School . We will ask her. Hello, welcome to the programme. Were live until 11 this morning. Later we will be speaking with Louise Ellman, the mp who has quit the labour party after 20. 22 yea rs the labour party after 20. 22 years as a labour mp. That is when she was first elected, in fact, back in1997, she was first elected, in fact, back in 1997, she has been a party member for 55 years. She isjewish, she has told us that anti semitism is mainstream in the party and it is no longer a safe place forjewish people. My interview with her will bejust after 10. 30. We will be speaking with Extinction Rebellion protesters in a moment and hopefully commuters as well. Do get in touch on all the stories were talking about use the hashtag victoria live. Good morning, everyone, Boris Johnson has suffered a blow to his proposed brexit deal as the Democratic Unionist Party says it cannot support plans as things stand. The backing of the Northern Irish party is seen as crucial, if the pm is to win parliamentary approvalfor the deal the pm is to win parliamentary approval for the deal in time for his 31st of october deadline. The dup said it would continue to work with the government to try to get a sensible deal. The Prime Minister will be heading to brussels later where he was hoping to sign off a deal with other eu leaders. Its understood other outstanding issues have largely been agreed between the uk, ireland and the eu, but the refusal of the dup to back the deal as it stands throws into jeopardy the planned coreography of todays summit. A headteacher prosecuted for running an Illegal School in south london has told this programme shes determined to keep it open. Ambassadors high school in streatham wasnt registered with the government and is only the Second School to be prosecuted. Headteacher nadia ali was also found by 0fsted to have wilfully neglected the safeguarding of pupils. In the next half hour, well be bringing you the headteachers first tv interview. Stay with us for that. Climate protesters have targeted londons transport system this morning, causing disruption at three tube stations in east london, and delays across the network. There were angry scenes as commuters dragged an Extinction Rebellion protester from atop a jubilee line train at canning town. Activists also glued themselves to train carriages at shadwell. British transport police say a number of arrests have been made. Extinction rebellion says the disruption was necessary to highlight the emergency knife crime offences recorded by police in England Wales have hit a new record high, according to new figures. In the 12 months to the end ofjune, there was a 7 increase. There was also a rise in gun crime and recorded robberies. But the office for National Statistics also says the number of murders involving knives has decreased by 14 . The veteran labour mp Louise Ellman has quit the party, saying Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to become Prime Minister. In a letter, the mp for liverpool riverside mp said shed been deeply troubled by the growth of anti semitism in labour in recent years. The party says itstaking robust action to root out anti semitism. And victoria will be hearing from Louise Ellman on the programme shortly. Stay with us for that. Passengers on a British Airways flight which filled with smoke mid air have told the bbc they are still experiencing breathing difficulties two months on. Ba said it was waiting for the outcome of a spanish air accident investigation, which is examining why the cabin of the flight from heathrow to valencia in august filled with smoke shortly before landing. 0ver the counter genetic tests can easily be misinterpreted and should not be relied on solely to make health decisions. Thats according to experts who say the dna tests, which promise insights into ancestry, disease risks and personality traits, commonly provide false results. The scientists from the university of southampton urge gps to put results in context for patients. So, Extinction Rebellion activists targeted the London Underground this morning with disruption at three stations in east london. Have a look at this, footage taken and shared by commuters show activists climbing on to a train at shadwell station, while commuters have been seen dragging protesters from the roof of a train at canning town. Police say arrests have already been made and officers are working quickly to resume services. Sadiq khan, the mayor of london, in a statement has strongly condemned the Extinction Rebellion protesters and called the illegal action extremely dangerous. This was the scene at shadwell station earlier where there were protesters both on top of a train and stuck to the platform. Some commuters were engaging with the protesters, urging them to try other methods to raise attention instead. We will talk to claire farrell, right here, spokesman for Extinction Rebellion, first, correspond and Richard Lister is at canning town. As it comes down . Is it still going on . It has calmed down, things running normally again but really there were very dramatic scenes as we saw this morning, when these protesters climbed on top of the train, that had pulled into the jubilee line platform, here at canning town. Above ground situation, they were not under the ground. So that made things a little easierfor the ground. So that made things a little easier for the protesters to get onto the top of the train. They u nfu rled onto the top of the train. They unfurled a banner, they were up there for 20 minutes or so, in that time, as more people came onto the platform, commuters on the train got out, and tensions started to considerably rise. People were throwing things at protesters from the platform, shouting abuse at them. People jumping up the platform, shouting abuse at them. Peoplejumping up trying to grab them by the legs and eventually one person grabbed one of the protesters by the leg and pulled him from the train. Another commuter got on top of the train and chased him along the roof of the train until eventually they were brought off as well. There was considerable disruption and once one of the protesters was on the ground, it looked as though some of the commuters were certainly abusing him verbally but also were attacking him physically. Station staff doing their best to calm things down. Pretty ugly scene for a while and i spoke to the young man who was filming and Live Streaming the incident for Extinction Rebellion, he described himself as an independent journalist asked to film this by the organisation. He says he, too, was attacked, lying on the ground, trying to protect himself for a good 25 seconds as people were kicking and punching him. Ugly scenes at canning town but things back to normal now. Lets s talk to Clare Farrell from Extinction Rebellion. This is dangerous what are you playing at . The people in danger are the protesters, the alarm was pulled, the people who have been harmed are the people who have been harmed are the protesters who made themselves vulnerable. By taking this act. The passengers were not in any danger, they were delayed however. I think people are doing this out of desperation because they understand we are so very vulnerable to the situation. If one of your members was injured in the course of a protest like that, you say it would bea protest like that, you say it would be a price worth paying . protest like that, you say it would be a price worth paying . I am not saying that, i did not do the action, but i know that people have done these actions with absolute attention to make sure that the public are safe, and people who do them are willing to put themselves in those positions. The public arent safe, if someone is on top of arent safe, if someone is on top of a tube train, the public are not safe. Why not . How can they be, the train does not usually drive around with people on top of it. Its not going to move, they have pulled the alarm. They did a very similar action in april, with the dlr train, with a man in his 80s, sat on top of the dlr, eating his sandwiches. Peaceful, calm, non violent. Iwould say that this has been the same process that Extinction Rebellion activists have gone through, it is no different to the action. But what has happened is that the anger has ensued with the public, and, i mean, when people talk to us about civilisational collapse, which we all have heard this, from many experts, i wonder what people think civilisational collapse looks and feels like . I dont think it is going to be a calm situation for people to live through. That is clearly what we are facing. The imf, mark carney, credible people. We do not have a fringe opinion here. You have a lot of support from people up and down the country, one commuter we have spoken with support you, but does not support that kind of protest, because they think it is dangerous, and disrupting peoples lives too much, and drawing in Police Officers who probably have Better Things to do. Yes, and we have been disrupting people now for nearly two weeks. This is what you do when you think that absolutely everything is at stake. What would you do if you knew that your children were in a burning building . You would break down the door. It would not be pretty, he would not be able to do it in a way that everybody thought was nice and calm, this is an emergency. We have seen no sense of the emergency in this country since the government admitted there was one in may. Zero action, zero recognition of the fact that we are facing a total disaster. Sadiq khan says the action is illegal, for a start. Extremely dangerous. Counter productive, and causing unacceptable destruction to londoners using public transport to get to work. We understand that. The tactics we have chosen to use our peaceful, non violent and disruptive. That is exactly what these people have done today. They are illegal, he is urging you to protest within the boundaries of the law. The people who take actions on protests are willing and ready to be arrested, they will face the consequences, they do not run away or cover their faces consequences, they do not run away or cover theirfaces or consequences, they do not run away or cover their faces or try to get away with something. The point is, these people are willing to put themselves out there in harms way, because we know that we are all in a grave risk. Nobody is engaging with, emotionally, what that really means. Some politicians would say they are, and would wholeheartedly support what you are doing but with these particular demonstrations, do you think somebody will get hurt . |j particular demonstrations, do you think somebody will get hurt . I hope not, clearly somebody has been heard, people have been kicked and punched on a train platform. We understand putting ourselves in these positions and putting ourselves out there are spokespeople is potentially dangerous for us. But, what else can we do, really. We have been out on the streets for 11 days, there has been no response from the government apart from to put a section 1a blanket ban on members of our Group Standing in any public space, as two or more people, as an assembly, is classed as illegal. Police have arrested a 17 year old the other day, stopped and searched and arrested for carrying some stickers in his bag. This is a very serious situation and we are seeing a serious response. Thank you very much. Your views are welcome. Get in touch by e mail. Borisjohnson has suffered a blow to his proposed brexit deal as the Democratic Unionist Party said it cannot support plans as things stand. Lets talk to norman. What is the spanner in the works . All mighty big spanner, i have to say, borisjohnson all mighty big spanner, i have to say, Boris Johnson is all mighty big spanner, i have to say, borisjohnson is going to brussels today, all the signs where he was going to get the deal. Now, thatis he was going to get the deal. Now, that is off the agenda, the dup has said, we are not up for this. If the dup are not up for customs proposals that they are talking about, then they will not be able to sign off on them. More than that, it raises the question about whether this special saturday sitting of the commons will be going ahead, if he does not have the dup on board, he does not have the dup on board, he does not have the numbers to get a commons majority. I would doubt very much thatis majority. I would doubt very much that is going to happen either. And, it is not just that is going to happen either. And, it is notjust a minor technical discomfort for the dup, it is a profound issue for them. It centres on this question of, can the Northern Ireland assembly, stormont, which isnt yet up and running again after more than two years, can they have a say, a cheque, over the new arrangements. The eu have said, ok, we will let the Northern Ireland assembly have a cheque. The way they ought to do it is through a simple majority. If members of the Northern IrelandAssembly Vote in favour of the arrangements and vote to roll them over every four years, fine. That is all you need. Not fine for the dup, their concern is that you could get a majority of nationalist members of the assembly working with smaller parties, in other words, they could form a majority, and the unionists, even if they were unhappy with the arrangements, could not do anything about it. What they are suggesting is getting a majority, both nationalist community and unionist community. Why it matters is, for them, this is about the union, they are a great fear is they are locked in an arrangement they cannot get out of it and they are sucked ever closer to brussels and dublin and ever further away from. Can it be resolved in the timescale . Well, what we do not know is whether the dup are just playing hardball well, what we do not know is whether the dup arejust playing hardball or whether this is a red line. We know they are incredibly tough negotiators, is thisjust they are incredibly tough negotiators, is this just another little twist to crank up the pressure on Boris Johnson, little twist to crank up the pressure on borisjohnson, and the eu, to eke out more concessions . Is this for them a no go area, they are simply not prepared to put at risk the union, generally, we do not know, because none of them are answering their phones, talking to people, they have gone into complete lockdown at the moment. As things stand, unless they do a sudden about turn in the next 48 hours, it does not look like borisjohnson will get a deal or the vote in parliament will go ahead. Conservative mp Geoffrey Clifton brown joins us now from westmisnter. Westminster. Will borisjohnson have to be ready with another billion pounds for the dup . What do you reckon . It is hard to know exactly how things are going to pan out today. Clearly, negotiations have been going on all night, and the dup have concerns about the consent issue, which norman was talking about, and the vat issue. Hard to know whether these are just negotiating ploy is, as he says, or whether they are deep seated concerns that the dup are prepared to scupper a deal, at least in the short term, about. Nobody knows that. Other than the negotiating parties. Do you have an instant . My instinct is, given that we may not get this thing done as has been said, by the time of this summit, we may have to come up with some other arrangement to get it done by the sist arrangement to get it done by the 31st of october, to give everybody time to sort out this very tricky Northern Ireland boulder problem. There are solutions, i think, it may not be that we can do them in the Time Available. You feel that with more time, the dup could be persuaded on this consent issue . believe they could, because i dont think the dup, at the end of the day, are going to want to end up com pletely day, are going to want to end up completely scuppering this deal. Well they have done it before, so why not . They have, but with goodwill and particularly with a Prime Minister that is genuinely trying to bring them on board, and has their concerns at heart, i think they have the best chance, they are likely to get, with coming up with a deal that is satisfactory to them. If they get an alternative political solution, they may find a deal that suits them far less than the one available on the table. Could you vote for the deal . It is very difficult, we need to see the detail. No one outside the negotiating team has seen the text, so it is difficult to comment. You are not going to vote against whatever the deal is, with Boris Johnson at this late stage, for the reasons you have outlined regarding the dup. I hav