Voters in the rest of the country thing . I be in New Hampshire to find out. Also on the programme. Senior conservative Jacob Rees Mogg says he is profusely sorry after claiming it would have been common sense for the Grenfell Residents to ignore advice to stay inside a burning building. And a case of wine is sent to the astronauts at the International Space station. Sadly they are not allowed to drink it. Hello and welcome im Michelle Fleury in washington and Christian Fraser is in london. Within the last half hour two new transcripts have been released from witnesses who came before the impeachment inquiry. Kurt volker, the special represetnative for ukraine negotiations and Gordon Sondland, the Us Ambassador to the eu are key figures and now everyone is pouring over their words. Ambassador sondland testified that things kept getting more insidious as time went on regarding demands that ukraine investigate the bidens. And it comes as house impeachment investigators are seeking a deposition of acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney on friday. The bbcs north america editorjon sopel has been Speed Reading the documents. I want to pick up with Gordon Sondland, he was seen as a figure who was perhaps more friendly to donald trump. What stood out from his transcripts . Gordon sondland is the ambassador to the European Union and has been appointed by donald trump. He is not a career diplomat, he was a fundraiser for the trump campaign, a trumpet loyalist who gets rewarded with this posting of the eu ambassador. He gets closely involved in all of this. What stands out absolutely is the centrality of Rudy Giuliani to everything. He was be final three which everything had to pass. Donald trump has maintained there was no quid pro quo. We didnt stop military aid to ukraine in return for a statement aboutjoe bidens son and this company he was involved with. But you have the absolutely clear statement from ambassador sondland, he acknowledged telling one of president zielinskis advisors in warsaw that resumption of us aid would likely not occur until ukraine provided the Anti Corruption until ukraine provided the anti corru ption statement. That public Anti Corruption anti corru ption statement. That public anti corru ption statement anti corru ption statement. That public Anti Corruption statement as we hear about in the statement from kurt volker goes backwards and forwards and Rudy Giuliani is insisting the anti corru ption statement must have mention of the company that hunter biden was involved with. It looks like there was a relationship between holding up was a relationship between holding up the aid and getting that statement. Something donald trump has repeatedly denied. Statement. Something donald trump has repeatedly deniedli statement. Something donald trump has repeatedly denied. Ijust want to redo something from the transcript of kurt volker. He was asked, Rudy Giuliani was the problem . The asked, Rudy Giuliani was the problem . The negative asked, Rudy Giuliani was the problem . The negative narrative about the ukraine, he replied, which Rudy Giuliani was furthering was the problem. It wasnt my view, it was impeding my ability to build the relationship. What you have is the president who is a ukraine sceptic. He doesnt much like ukraine but he has also bought into a Conspiracy Theory that in the 2016 election it wasnt the russians interfering with the election, it was the ukrainians interfering and making it look like it was the russians. It is kind of convoluted but that was broadly in it. The corruption thing got morphed into that and about getting dirt on joe biden and hunter biden. Essentially, the charge is that donald trump was using us Foreign Policy as a tool for his political advantage domestically on the 2020 campaign to discreditjoe biden. The messengerfor all campaign to discreditjoe biden. The messenger for all of campaign to discreditjoe biden. The messengerfor all of that campaign to discreditjoe biden. The messenger for all of that was Rudy Giuliani. What youre saying, it seems to me that its going to be even more difficult for republicans to argue that there was no quid pro quo. The strategy weve seen over the last week is that they are going to say there was a quid pro quo but it doesnt rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanours, its not an impeachable offence. crimes and misdemeanours, its not an impeachable offence. I think you put yourfinger on it. I think reading this testimony, and its a good thing the camera shot is wider because youll see the mess of papers in front of me, trying to figure out the key passages. It seems to me the key passage is the acknowledgement there is some kind of quid pro quo. I think that makes donald trump s Current Defence unsustainable. You cannot repeat the testimony of people giving on oath and Gordon Sondland someone appointed by donald trump, he is not pa rt appointed by donald trump, he is not part of the deep state, he was a trump fundraiser. You hear him saying there was clearly relationship between america receiving military aid to ukraine and getting a statement that would be damaging to joe and getting a statement that would be damaging tojoe brydon. You could say its not a high crime and misdemeanour, you could say the president can do what you want, you could say it doesnt add up to a row of beans on the president should be able to conduct Foreign Policy in the way he sees fit. Hard to maintain as donald trump has done consistently that there was no quit baroque way. At midnight tonight, the British Parliament will be dissolved. The parties now have just over five weeks until the country decides. The Prime Minister will be launching the conservative campaign tomorrow in the west midlands, a leave area where they are battling for a number of labour seats. Jeremy corbyn who was in harlow, essex today, another leave area, says his brexit policy really isnt that complicated. He would negotiate a third withdrawal deal he says and put it to a second referendum within six months. Today was the official launch for the liberal democrats. Their leaderjo swinson says her party is the true choice for remainers, a vote for her is a vote to stop brexit. She claims that if the uk stays there will be a remain bonus, money that could be ploughed into Public Services. She even has a sum in mind £50 billion. The figure comes from the partys own forecast that the economy will be 1. 9 bigger in 2024 if brexit doesnt happen. When we stop brexit, we will be able to use that remain bonus to invest in our Public Services. We are the only Party Standing up to say that we will stop brexit and build a brighterfuture. And Everybody Knows brexit has taken longer and cost more than anyone said that it would. But any type of brexit will damage our economy, will costjobs and starve our Public Services of the resources that they need. So, we know that that remain bonus will be £50 billion that we can spend on our Public Services, investing in our schools and the welfare system to help the poorest in our society. Lets check in with our political correspondent, helen catt, whos in westminster. We are only into the first week of the campaign and we had so many numbers today, michael gove saying we can get a free trade deal within a year, weve got £50 billion of a remain bonus from the lib dems and Jeremy Corbyn saying we can get a deal and a second referendum in six months. Does any of this adult . Get your calculators and diaries out because you will get a lot more of these figures. Lets take a few of those. The figure liberal democrats have put on their remain bonus, as they call it, or £50 billion. That is over five years. Youre talking about 10 million £10 billion a year. It is true that the vast majority of analysts agree that the uk economy would be bigger staying inside the eu but putting a precise figure on it has been quite difficult. Its also worth saying that £10 billion a year isnt actually that much money when you think about the entirety of government spending. You mentioned also this idea ofJeremy Corbyn saying he could get brexit done in six months. To take a look at that, he is suggesting that he could renegotiate a new deal within three months with eu and then put that to a referendum against that and remain and get that done within six months. The constitution unit at university couege the constitution unit at University College london has suggested it ta kes 22 College London has suggested it takes 22 weeks to have a Referendum Campaign so it is possible but its tight. Im curious about the remain vote, the voters i should say. Are they likely to be split or torn between the lib dems and labour . His policy will appeal more . This is going to be one of the defining questions, where does that remain vote go . The lib dems are keen to put that pitch that they are the party who say they will just stop it out right if they were to get a majority. Its worth pointing out that at the moment the lib dems have 20 mp5. That at the moment the lib dems have 20 mps. To get a majority in parliament you need 326. It would be looking at an enormous mountain to climb. The question becomes, the people who would prefer to stay in the eu rally behind the lib dems with a clear policy or do they rally behind Jeremy Corbyn and the labour party with the promise of a new fake two . Party with the promise of a new fake two . But the thing about labours policy is that while they would renegotiate a deal which would be much closer to what we have while we are in the eu, a new customs union, single market, guarantees on goods, so single market, guarantees on goods, so closer than what borisjohnson has negotiated and then they would put that to a referendum with the other option being remain, the party wont actually decide whether it would back it steel or remain until after those negotiations have finished. Back its deal. After those negotiations have finished. Back its deal. No doubt we will be talking about this a lot more over the next few weeks. Thank you. Two and a half years on from the majorfire in a london tower block that killed 72 people, politicians continue to express their horror at the atrocities and pledge their support for the victims and their families. But it was comments made by the conservative mp Jacob Rees Mogg, that have attracted criticism for appearing to do the opposite. On a radio phone in this morning, he said it was common sense for people to flee Grenfell Tower, despite being against the express instructions of the fire brigade. Take a listen. If you just ignore what youre told and leave, you are so much safer. And i think if either of us were in a fire, whatever the fire brigade said, we would leave the burning building. It just seems the common sense thing to do. He was making those comments having read the report over the weekend. Mr rees mogg has profusely apologised. I profoundly apologise. What i meant to say is that i would have also listened to the fire brigades advice to stay and wait at the time. However, with what we know now and with hindsight i wouldnt and i dont think anyone else would. I would hate to upset the people of grenfell if i was unclear in my comments. And then to follow up on the apology conservative mp andrew bridgen appeared on bbc radio heres part of that conversation. You you think he meant to say that he thought he would not have stayed put . Thats what he meant to say. That is exactly what people object to, which is that he is in effect saying, i wouldnt have died because i would have been cleverer than the people who took the fire brigades advice. He sighs. But we want very clever people running the country, dont we, evan . I remember in new york with the 9 11 towers going down, again, people we re towers going down, again, people were given similar advice to stay in the building. I think the instinct is to listen to those in authority. These comments are seen as particularly bad taste. What did Harold Macmillan say when he was asked what you fear the most . Events, dear boy, events. Five weeks isa events, dear boy, events. Five weeks is a long time in politics and particularly in our politics. In a world of social media where things run and run, where a slip up, in this case a monumental misreading of the situation unfolds, that can do u ntold the situation unfolds, that can do untold damage. What you get is Jacob Rees Mogg issuing an apology really quickly. And then you get andrew bridgen going on bbc radio and taking ajcb, bridgen going on bbc radio and taking a jcb, excavating the whole and putting it back in the public domain. It beggars belief. Im sure conservative Central Office is having a sharp word. If he thought it was about the issues, its personalities as well. The election fever is spreading. Here in the us, we are exacty one year away from the 2020 president ial election, and less than 100 days until the New Hampshire president ial primary. And based on national polls, it is the former Vice President joe biden that remains the frontrunner in the race for the democratic president ial nomination. But the battle for the Party Nomination isnt a national contest. In New Hampshire the first in the nation primary state Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren are leading the polls. Candidates have until november 15th to pay the 1,000 fee and file the necessary paperwork to get on the ballot. In 2016, there were 58 candidates in New Hampshires president ial primary so you can expect lots of politicians to be making the trip there in the coming weeks. And with more than four out of five voters still undecided, there is an enormous opportunity for lower polling candidates to emerge. So, what are the issues that voters in New Hampshire care most about . Lets ask someone who now lives there, formerly of this parish, jane 0brien. How lovely to see you how is New Hampshire . It is wonderful. Its raining at the moment but its heaven on earth. It is a wonderful place to be. Its so funny. We are fulminating over the impeachment enquiry, its what dominates washington. Does it feel1 million miles away in New Hampshire . Parallel universe. There is a real disconnect which is so fascinating. Listening to you talk about impeachment, this is the big issue they are just not talking about here. Ive been to a couple of rallies, democratic rallies, the candidates have been coming through and they just candidates have been coming through and theyjust dont want candidates have been coming through and they just dont want to candidates have been coming through and theyjust dont want to know. Democratic voters dont want to hear it, i think its a foregone conclusion. They are really interested in the issues. Republicans dont care because they say its further evidence that there isa say its further evidence that there is a political elite that is out to get their man. Impeachment is just not a big factor. What is . Well, ta ke not a big factor. What is . Well, take a look at this. Shifting winds over the president ial range home to some of the most unpredictable weather in the world im here to meet republicans who think the president will have better luck this time. He changed my whole outlook, because hes not a politician. Hes a businessman running a business and this country needs it. And that changed my whole lifestyle and just gave me energy. But republicans here are a dwindling force. We are attracting people from the surrounding states that are overwhelmingly liberals. So, they say, hey, look over the border in New Hampshire, its pretty good over there. So they move here, but they bring their ideas with them and they vote accordingly. Of course, a lot depends on who democrats pick to challenge him. The democratic field is a bit like zebs candy bar at the moment. Youre kind of spoilt for choice. Do you go for the jawbreaker, the gumball, the rock candy or, my personal favourite, the caramel cow tail . The point is they are all candy but they all appeal to different tastes. Bernie sanders won the last primary in New Hampshire and he is doing well in the polls right now. But Many Democrats have doubts about his ability to beat trump in a general election. There is momentum building for some of the candidates who are a little bit more moderate at least in a state like this. Because i think we have an understanding that if we swing too far to the left, without a deep divide as it is, that itll make people unelectable. Mobilisation is the key to 2020. Given the tribal nature of american politics, few people are likely to change their minds or their party. Polls suggest that ind